Jon Saxon wrote:I say put him in deep get him spanked, then he might go away and learn soem boxing fundamentals.
You would not have to put kell in the deep end. He would get in there willingley' soon you will become a fan Jon' if it is boxing class you strive for.
Jon Saxon wrote:I say put him in deep get him spanked, then he might go away and learn soem boxing fundamentals.
You would not have to put kell in the deep end. He would get in there willingley' soon you will become a fan Jon' if it is boxing class you strive for.
Mate I want him to be good, i just get the feeling he aint.
I think a that Naz (if he were Kel's size) would have got Jennings out in 1.
Jon Saxon wrote:I say put him in deep get him spanked, then he might go away and learn soem boxing fundamentals.
You would not have to put kell in the deep end. He would get in there willingley' soon you will become a fan Jon' if it is boxing class you strive for.
Mate I want him to be good, i just get the feeling he aint.
I think a that Naz (if he were Kel's size) would have got Jennings out in 1.
I could be wrong, I could be right.
If you remember right' it also took cotto 5 rounds to get jennings out of there' sometimes it is hard for a fighter to get some one of jennings class out quick' especialley if he uses his movement and doesn't come to fight' did kell look in any kind of trouble? kell took the fight to him' and commanded the pace' and when kell stepped it up it was all over quick' unsatisfactory i agree' ps naz didn't take all his opponents out in 1'
hoot wrote:
You would not have to put kell in the deep end. He would get in there willingley' soon you will become a fan Jon' if it is boxing class you strive for.
Mate I want him to be good, i just get the feeling he aint.
I think a that Naz (if he were Kel's size) would have got Jennings out in 1.
I could be wrong, I could be right.
If you remember right' it also took cotto 5 rounds to get jennings out of there' sometimes it is hard for a fighter to get some one of jennings class out quick' especialley if he uses his movement and doesn't come to fight' did kell look in any kind of trouble? kell took the fight to him' and commanded the pace' and when kell stepped it up it was all over quick' unsatisfactory i agree' ps naz didn't take all his opponents out in 1'
Sorry but thats not good enough, if he really was top drawer i think that he should have jumped out and done a number on jennings.
I bet there are a ton of punters on here who agree with me.
PS Naz did most of them in the 2nd (until he really stepped up)
PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
Dunno, Jon...'tis you who seems to be dragging this on.
For a style with a lot of holes, it has served some people well. Though one has to be very talented indeed to pull it off at the highest level.
Was interesting yesterday that Rob McCracken said that Kell Brook was the best talent he'd ever seen in his time to come out of Britain. He's not usually given to such hyperbole what with, you know, being a Brummie and all.
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Dunno, Jon...'tis you who seems to be dragging this on.
For a style with a lot of holes, it has served some people well. Though one has to be very talented indeed to pull it off at the highest level.
Was interesting yesterday that Rob McCracken said that Kell Brook was the best talent he'd ever seen in his time to come out of Britain. He's not usually given to such hyperbole what with, you know, being a Brummie and all.
You never answered my question.
seems to be a theme on here..
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Dunno, Jon...'tis you who seems to be dragging this on.
For a style with a lot of holes, it has served some people well. Though one has to be very talented indeed to pull it off at the highest level.
Was interesting yesterday that Rob McCracken said that Kell Brook was the best talent he'd ever seen in his time to come out of Britain. He's not usually given to such hyperbole what with, you know, being a Brummie and all.
You never answered my question.
seems to be a theme on here..
What was the question? "How sad is that?"
Sorry, I assumed it was rhetorical. Even if it isn't, I'll treat it as such.
If I've missed another one, let me have it! I don't think you're earlier ones were sent my way...
Jon Saxon wrote:PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
I mean how sad is that?
Jon:
1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Dunno, Jon...'tis you who seems to be dragging this on.
For a style with a lot of holes, it has served some people well. Though one has to be very talented indeed to pull it off at the highest level.
Was interesting yesterday that Rob McCracken said that Kell Brook was the best talent he'd ever seen in his time to come out of Britain. He's not usually given to such hyperbole what with, you know, being a Brummie and all.
You never answered my question.
seems to be a theme on here..
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Dunno, Jon...'tis you who seems to be dragging this on.
For a style with a lot of holes, it has served some people well. Though one has to be very talented indeed to pull it off at the highest level.
Was interesting yesterday that Rob McCracken said that Kell Brook was the best talent he'd ever seen in his time to come out of Britain. He's not usually given to such hyperbole what with, you know, being a Brummie and all.
You never answered my question.
seems to be a theme on here..
Jon Saxon wrote:PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
I mean how sad is that?
Jon:
1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
very generous offer, that.
i'm sure we all hope the Ingle gym fighters get the opportunity to have their faults put right by JS......
Jon Saxon wrote:PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
I mean how sad is that?
Jon:
1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
That's a good gesture.Jon, you should accept it.I think you'd enjoy seeing the gym and watching them prepare.Always a good atmoshpere there, and a chat with Brendan is always entertaining and enlightening.It's a friendly and inspiring place to be, I found.
Jon Saxon wrote:PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
I mean how sad is that?
Jon:
1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
That's a good gesture.Jon, you should accept it.I think you'd enjoy seeing the gym and watching them prepare.Always a good atmoshpere there, and a chat with Brendan is always entertaining and enlightening.It's a friendly and inspiring place to be, I found.
tell you what if he doesn't I'll happily take his place sometime
big lennox wrote: a chat with Brendan is always entertaining and enlightening.
Can I recommend the following opening gambit:
"Hello Brendan. I'm Jon. Can I just say that the style in which you coach your boxers has more holes than Swiss cheese? Please allow me to take you through the faults of it, one by one. Could I borrow Richard Towers for a spot of sparring against me in order to best illustrate my legion of technical points?"
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Dunno, Jon...'tis you who seems to be dragging this on.
For a style with a lot of holes, it has served some people well. Though one has to be very talented indeed to pull it off at the highest level.
Was interesting yesterday that Rob McCracken said that Kell Brook was the best talent he'd ever seen in his time to come out of Britain. He's not usually given to such hyperbole what with, you know, being a Brummie and all.
You never answered my question.
seems to be a theme on here..
What was the question? "How sad is that?"
Sorry, I assumed it was rhetorical. Even if it isn't, I'll treat it as such.
If I've missed another one, let me have it! I don't think you're earlier ones were sent my way...
leforge wrote:How come Richard Towers is on a matchroom show thought he was with Hattons?
He is - nowt confirmed yet but i believe the Hattons are being very helpful. I think he is managed by John Ingle and promoted by the Hattons but i could be wrong.
big lennox wrote: a chat with Brendan is always entertaining and enlightening.
Can I recommend the following opening gambit:
"Hello Brendan. I'm Jon. Can I just say that the style in which you coach your boxers has more holes than Swiss cheese? Please allow me to take you through the faults of it, one by one. Could I borrow Richard Towers for a spot of sparring against me in order to best illustrate my legion of technical points?"
Mate I would drop the lummox like a sack of spuds DD
Jon Saxon wrote:PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
I mean how sad is that?
Jon:
1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
Mate,
See my posts, Im not will to type this anymore, we ALL know the flaws.
I bet if you pressed someone like Glyn Leach you would get the same answer, the only differance being TACT, I.e I dont give a fuk as Im a fan, im not in this buisness.
now either accept my fair rational points or don't, however don't annoy me or i might just go out and buy the rights to a one of the UK boxing mags and write this every month :) or better get Bernard Hopkins to show you how it should be done (i.e.see his colum in The 'brown' Ring) by a reall well "elite" schooled pro.
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1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
That's a good gesture.Jon, you should accept it.I think you'd enjoy seeing the gym and watching them prepare.Always a good atmoshpere there, and a chat with Brendan is always entertaining and enlightening.It's a friendly and inspiring place to be, I found.
tell you what if he doesn't I'll happily take his place sometime
Pop in.Its a really friendly gym, and Brendan is a dead set legend!!
Jon Saxon wrote:PS
I forgot to sat that the reason some of you kept asking wich UK trainers dont rate the Ingle style was because you thought I was an some insider (perhalps from another camp or trainer) and you are obviously an Ingle groupie(s) who were reporting back to them/him in order to find out who this mysterious person was. hence the "what uk trainers dont rate them" and subsequent Ingle/Shefield nuthugging.
PG or whoever it was couldnt deal with the simple fact that 100% geuine boxing fan and a that a basic punter could see more holes in their style than swiss cheese.
I mean how sad is that?
Jon:
1) Tell me about all these 'holes' and we'll discuss it (again). If you look back (i think it was in this thread) i did actually try and counter some of your points in a constructive way but if you're really wanting to explore this put some points down and we'll have a debate
2) I'm gonna take you at your word that you are genuine (complete coincidence that you've emerged on this vicious anti-Kell tack shortly after Kell signed with Matchroom). Why dont you come up Sheffield for Kell v N'Dou fight, we'll meet up, I'll show you round the gym and introduce you to everyone. You can then see how we do things and why and then if you still think it's all complete bollocks then fair enough! What do you say?
Mate,
See my posts, Im not will to type this anymore, we ALL know the flaws.
I bet if you pressed someone like Glyn Leach you would get the same answer, the only differance being TACT, I.e I dont give a fuk as Im a fan, im not in this buisness.
now either accept my fair rational points or don't, however don't annoy me or i might just go out and buy the rights to a one of the UK boxing mags and print it every month or better get Bernard Hopkins to show you how it should be done (i.e. The Ring)
You mean the same The Ring magazine that rated Brendan one of the top ten trainers in the world?
You've not responded to my suggestion mate? Why not come up and have a look for yourself?
DD