cant believe groves bet his purse!
cant believe groves bet his purse!
when he could of gone to a bookmaker via a friend of course and bet on himself at odds of probably 3-1, indstead of the even money he 'll end up getting and that if he wins which i doubt, so will end up with nothing -he got pulled in big time by degale there and no one seemed more excited than jim mcdonnell- who i think laid a bet with adam booth!
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Booth didn't look to happy when Groves got up, after the press conference im now sure Degale will win
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shows how confirdent Groves is in winning which is good
No matter what though i wouldnt bet full purse on a fight , anything can happen
I believe Alex Arthur bet Gomez and didnt pay up after it according to Gomez
No matter what though i wouldnt bet full purse on a fight , anything can happen
I believe Alex Arthur bet Gomez and didnt pay up after it according to Gomez
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It's a psych ploy; no money will change hands and I very much doubt they hate each other all that much either; should be a good fight though.
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alexpaterson
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Re: cant believe groves bet his purse!
Groves is really confident, and it's starting to wear off on me! I give him a good chance now.
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I think it's misguided. Booth's confidence rubbing off on Georgie.alexpaterson wrote:Groves is really confident, and it's starting to wear off on me! I give him a good chance now.
I think as soon as Chunky lands, the confidence will be knocked out of Groves and he'll be like a rabbit in headlights.
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What else could Groves do? Any kind of refusal would've been taken as a clear sign that he doesn't fancy his chances. That's a huge psychological edge to give up this close to the fight.
It's not as though Degale would've kept his big gob shut long enough for Groves to explain that he's up for it, but knows it's a risk and therefore not something to be betting large sums of money on.
Degale would've had the fight won right there if Groves had've declined, Booth couldn't get between them either because that's tantamount to saying he has no faith in his man. Wazza should've intervened.
It's not as though Degale would've kept his big gob shut long enough for Groves to explain that he's up for it, but knows it's a risk and therefore not something to be betting large sums of money on.
Degale would've had the fight won right there if Groves had've declined, Booth couldn't get between them either because that's tantamount to saying he has no faith in his man. Wazza should've intervened.
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Newport Daz
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Re: cant believe groves bet his purse!
I don't think he'll knock the confidence out of him as he can't punch for toffee. What I do expect is for degale to stand him on his head and humiliate him with his vastly superior skills. I can see a very wide points win, along the lines of 10-2. I really want George to win but they're at different levels.jBacca wrote:I think it's misguided. Booth's confidence rubbing off on Georgie.alexpaterson wrote:Groves is really confident, and it's starting to wear off on me! I give him a good chance now.
I think as soon as Chunky lands, the confidence will be knocked out of Groves and he'll be like a rabbit in headlights.
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alexpaterson
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Re: cant believe groves bet his purse!
I think people are overrating DeGale's power, he doesn't seem a big puncher at all to me I think he outclassed Smith for 9 rounds before stopping him, it was more accumulation. Dilks he just overwhelmed. And Horton doesn't have a great chin. Groves' chin isn't as bad as DeGale says, sure it's not granite but it's hardly china either! I think Booth is one of the best trainers/cornermen in Britain and agree he has installed 100% confidence in Groves
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It doesn't look like it'll take a big punch to hurt Groves, and Chunky certainly isn't lacking.Newport Daz wrote:I don't think he'll knock the confidence out of him as he can't punch for toffee. What I do expect is for degale to stand him on his head and humiliate him with his vastly superior skills. I can see a very wide points win, along the lines of 10-2. I really want George to win but they're at different levels.jBacca wrote:I think it's misguided. Booth's confidence rubbing off on Georgie.alexpaterson wrote:Groves is really confident, and it's starting to wear off on me! I give him a good chance now.
I think as soon as Chunky lands, the confidence will be knocked out of Groves and he'll be like a rabbit in headlights.
Whether he hurts him or simply humiliate him - I think Groves is in for a shock.
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Has DeGale ever had a neutral ref? Who is reffing this one? Are we going to get another early stoppage just like against Smith?
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i think the Amateur win plays a big part in this
Groves might be his Bogey man
Like forrest vs Mosley ( different levels of course)
Groves might be his Bogey man
Like forrest vs Mosley ( different levels of course)
jBacca wrote:I think it's misguided. Booth's confidence rubbing off on Georgie.alexpaterson wrote:Groves is really confident, and it's starting to wear off on me! I give him a good chance now.
I think as soon as Chunky lands, the confidence will be knocked out of Groves and he'll be like a rabbit in headlights.
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It didn't look like Groves realised a 100% what he was shaking on to be honest.
Be a nice gesture if whoever wins calls the bet off after the fight. Would win them a lot of fans.
Be a nice gesture if whoever wins calls the bet off after the fight. Would win them a lot of fans.
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MightyWarrior
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Re: cant believe groves bet his purse!
Yep that's how it looked to me too. Jim and Booth should have it cancelled, it'll be bad enough losing this, let alone losing your purse too.J-C wrote:It didn't look like Groves realised a 100% what he was shaking on to be honest.
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I'm gonna put my neck on the line here and go with a groves win, just a hunch
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That's happened before; I can remember a wager been made and afterwards the winner of the bout said that the other man had fought hard and earned his money. I can't remember who it was, though I am sure someone on here will know.J-C wrote:It didn't look like Groves realised a 100% what he was shaking on to be honest.
Be a nice gesture if whoever wins calls the bet off after the fight. Would win them a lot of fans.
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Britannian Stallion
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Re: cant believe groves bet his purse!
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I had to laugh when Groves had to get someone to explain what the bet meant.
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Hilarious, no doubt it was Booth who crapped himself afterwards. The fighter himself agreeing to a bet is one thing, but his trainer agreeing to £20k at even money is comical when the bookies were going 3/1. Seems you're not as confident as your fighter Booth!Camcas wrote:Booth didn't fancy it then
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Didnt think Jimmy Mac covered himself in glory jumping up shouting - bit unproffessional for a trainer that.
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In fairness the terms of the bet were very unclear, and Degale is hopeless at articulating himselforbtastic wrote:I had to laugh when Groves had to get someone to explain what the bet meant.
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Yeah, was thinking the same. What a classy gent.Wales wrote:Didnt think Jimmy Mac covered himself in glory jumping up shouting - bit unproffessional for a trainer that.
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That's exactly how it looks, even though it was out of order to begin with.johnswan1 wrote:Hilarious, no doubt it was Booth who crapped himself afterwards. The fighter himself agreeing to a bet is one thing, but his trainer agreeing to £20k at even money is comical when the bookies were going 3/1. Seems you're not as confident as your fighter Booth!Camcas wrote:Booth didn't fancy it then
Surely this could've been done by someone neutral so that Booth wasn't made to look as though he's clearly shat it.
Seriously wtf was he thinking? Great confidence boost for Groves there, days before the fight!
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yeah a master trick by degale, groves was put on the spot, what else could he do but accept given he had no way of talking his way out and booth sat there like a lame bum and allowed his man to be upstaged.mahatma wrote:when he could of gone to a bookmaker via a friend of course and bet on himself at odds of probably 3-1, indstead of the even money he 'll end up getting and that if he wins which i doubt, so will end up with nothing -he got pulled in big time by degale there and no one seemed more excited than jim mcdonnell- who i think laid a bet with adam booth!
I really think under booth we are witnessing the ruination of a great british prospect.
Groves is a talented tough kid who should be allowed to develop at his own pace. Instead booth isnt protecting him. Booth talks to groves like a piece of shit if the anderson between rounds stuff was anything to go by, what exactly does booth have to offer by way of traing to a talent like groves, and why is he being beaten up in sparring by the likes of dirrel at this stage 12 fights into a promising career?
If booth is worth his cut he will excuse groves of this bet and yes he can use the, well get better odds at the bookies stuff.
As for jim mcdonnel just so embarrasing watching him jump around like ali g.