Nooooooooooo! Warren: Hatton vs Maussa?

J · Post by J » 28 Jun 2005, 07:59

nick mate it wont happen til spring. i cant see it.

will be a defence in manc with US tv exposure befor ea big fight in the spring.

thats what i reckon anyway.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 28 Jun 2005, 08:06

hard to say

1 does harris have a remathc clause?

2 does m'baye get a shot first or does he get side step money?

3 does hatton then have to fight m'baye or does he have to fight harris if he wins the title.

4 or harris - m'aybe oculd fight for the WBA super title thing. dont think they would want that.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 08:08

J wrote:nick mate it wont happen til spring. i cant see it.

will be a defence in manc with US tv exposure befor ea big fight in the spring.

thats what i reckon anyway.

Thats what I reckon aswell but its still a huge fight whenever it happens. There's no need for them to get more belts to make it any bigger as Kieran was suggesting. Tarver/Johnson and Barrera have all dumped their belts and just fought as 'champion" with no detriment to earnings or their careers.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 28 Jun 2005, 08:38

If it's not Mayweather or Cotto next then Hatton might as well take the WBA belt from this dude.

I see fights with the HBO fighters possibly happening but these barriers do seem to take some time to overcome, wasn't that one of the stumbling blocks for Holyfield-Lewis all those back? Possibly DLH-Trinidad too.

It can happen but not overnight.

Hut*Hut · Post by **Hut*Hut** » 28 Jun 2005, 09:27

This guy is worse than Ricky's opponents from 5 years ago. Missmatch of the highest order.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 28 Jun 2005, 09:48

Don´t be so harsh!

Let him make an easy fight and win the WBA-Title. Better than fighting a nobody without a title next......

He will also sell the MEN out again and make money. He would be crazy to fight the best guy in the division next. He is young and can make the next big fight in 2007.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 10:08

BubiScholz wrote:He is young and can make the next big fight in 2007.

Crikey, is that not a teeny bit under-ambitious?

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 28 Jun 2005, 10:40

Nick,
You misunderstand my point.
I know it's the top fight right now, you know, but the average Joe out there doesn't.
These are the very people who with the correct marketing turn this fight from one for the purists to one that everybody on the f***in planet will want to see.
Do the maths mate.
This isn't about boxing - it's about business and marketing, and making shed loads.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 28 Jun 2005, 11:56

Hatton deserves an easy(ish) fight for his next fight IMO and if he can get the WBA title as well then it makes sense, I just hope this is not a sign of things to come

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Jun 2005, 11:59

Kieran wrote:Nick,
You misunderstand my point.
I know it's the top fight right now, you know, but the average Joe out there doesn't.
These are the very people who with the correct marketing turn this fight from one for the purists to one that everybody on the f***in planet will want to see.
Do the maths mate.
This isn't about boxing - it's about business and marketing, and making shed loads.

Exactly, the money men backing the fight will want to see this as a genuine unification.

That was Floyds FIRST outing on PPV, he is hardly a box office smash, even with that performance, they will want to get the average bod on the street, who won't have heard shit about Floyd yet, buying up the PPV.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 13:44

I think Hatton v Mayweather is as much a huge PPV now as it is in a years time. Will Mayweather want to hang around 140 and wait a year for a Hatton fight? The time is now.

Mayweather will be at 147 in a years time I think.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 28 Jun 2005, 14:08

This fight is bollox, and you'll have to pay £15 to see it - I won't by buying it. If we can't have Cotto?mayweather why can't we have a Witter fight - the domestic tear up we've wanted - Witters earned it after beating Ndou. Or a Zoo rematch or even Gatti would be a top fight. Or someone like Corley may prepair him for a slickster (hes never faced anyone slick yet - it could be a shock when he faces the best slickster in May).

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2005, 14:08

nickd wrote:I think Hatton v Mayweather is as much a huge PPV now as it is in a years time. Will Mayweather want to hang around 140 and wait a year for a Hatton fight? The time is now.

Mayweather will be at 147 in a years time I think.

With this I agree, the only thing I can think off that will make it even bigger is if one beats Cotto before (making then undeniably one and two at the weight0.

The thing is though does Hatton (or Mayweather) want to risk the box office appeal by having the fight now, or do they wish to earn some biggish pay days before the superfight.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 14:15

stujones wrote:
nickd wrote:I think Hatton v Mayweather is as much a huge PPV now as it is in a years time. Will Mayweather want to hang around 140 and wait a year for a Hatton fight? The time is now.

Mayweather will be at 147 in a years time I think.
With this I agree, the only thing I can think off that will make it even bigger is if one beats Cotto before (making then undeniably one and two at the weight0.

The thing is though does Hatton (or Mayweather) want to risk the box office appeal by having the fight now, or do they wish to earn some biggish pay days before the superfight.

Cotto is moving to 147. Mayweather wont be far behind, who else other than Hatton is there at 140 to remotely test him? He'll move up and go after Judah, DLH, Mosley etc they're much bigger names and money.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:10

Hesketh wrote:This from Fightnews this morning:
Promoter allegedly allegedly said today that a unification fight between IBF 140lb champ Ricky Hatton and WBA champ Carlos Maussa is "an option." Warren acknowledged a rematch clause between Maussa and dethroned champ Vivian Harris, but asked "Who is going to want to watch that rubbish again and which TV company is going to pay for it?" Warren also lashed out at Harris, whom he says rejected a $750,000 offer to fight Hatton. "Harris should have taken the money because now he will have to fight for peanuts," said Warren. "But I knew he was an idiot because after he turned down the fight with Hatton he took on Oktay Urkal for a fraction of the money we were offering him. I've never seen a champion look so bad in the ring. He was unfit and badly out of shape, I don't know what his trainer Manny Steward had been doing with him in the gym."

I wouldnt mind that fight. As long as its not PPV!!!!

He spars for nothing he might as well get a few £££££ and a warm up!

Hatton can finish him in about 3 rounds and get himself another belt. Then look for another superfight!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:18

Hatton is big enough to be PPV with the right fights, but if FW tries to make his fight with this WBA chump PPV he can forget it.
Unifictation or not, it'll be a farce - as a boxing fan you'd be daft to pay for a mismatch like that.

And the addition of the WBA title to the equation means nothing really. I mean, Hatton is seen as the real champ by everyone - J Public incuded.

It's not like your average joe, or boxing fan even, will be saying - oh he's a fraud - he hasn't got the WBA title.

I doubt it'll add a dime to the Mayweather fight in reality.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:29

MightyWarrior wrote:Hatton is big enough to be PPV with the right fights, but if FW tries to make his fight with this WBA chump PPV he can forget it.
Unifictation or not, it'll be a farce - as a boxing fan you'd be daft to pay for a mismatch like that.

And the addition of the WBA title to the equation means nothing really. I mean, Hatton is seen as the real champ by everyone - J Public incuded.

It's not like your average joe, or boxing fan even, will be saying - oh he's a fraud - he hasn't got the WBA title.

I doubt it'll add a dime to the Mayweather fight in reality.

Totally agree. If the Mayweather fight is not made now then I dont think it will happen unless Hatton follows him up to 147. Who is Mayweather going to face at 140 to keep him interested if Hatton fights Maussa?

I have no doubts Hatton wants Mayweather now but I think Allegedly would rather sidestep him and fight Maussa hoping Mayweather goes up to 147. Lets hope Hatton forces his hand again.

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:32

warren has said that ricky will not fight mayweather this year

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:34

pasty_spud wrote:warren has said that ricky will not fight mayweather this year

Lets hope Hatton changes his mind. I really dont see Mayweather being at 140 for another year waiting. Not with so many big fights waiting at 147.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:37

nickd wrote:Lets hope Hatton changes his mind. I really dont see Mayweather being at 140 for another year waiting. Not with so many big fights waiting at 147.

True, but Hatton probably won't make 140 for ever either.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 29 Jun 2005, 05:41

Hesketh wrote:
nickd wrote:Lets hope Hatton changes his mind. I really dont see Mayweather being at 140 for another year waiting. Not with so many big fights waiting at 147.
True, but Hatton probably won't make 140 for ever either.

I see Hatton sticking around 140 for a while. Mayweather seems keen to move up and fight the likes of Mosley, DLH, Judah and has already expressed a desire to do so. If Cotto moves up to 147 as he has said he is doing, Hatton fights Maussa who exactly is Mayweather going to fight at 140?

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 29 Jun 2005, 07:11

nickd wrote:
Hesketh wrote:
nickd wrote:Lets hope Hatton changes his mind. I really dont see Mayweather being at 140 for another year waiting. Not with so many big fights waiting at 147.
True, but Hatton probably won't make 140 for ever either.
I see Hatton sticking around 140 for a while. Mayweather seems keen to move up and fight the likes of Mosley, DLH, Judah and has already expressed a desire to do so. If Cotto moves up to 147 as he has said he is doing, Hatton fights Maussa who exactly is Mayweather going to fight at 140?

Witter!

coneye · Post by **coneye** » 29 Jun 2005, 08:02

First things first , Masua can wack he can take a dig and he's a world champ , so its the best fight out there and they would be fools not to take it cos Hatton will be favoured to win and will probably do it in style.

Other than that who is there Mayweather WILL NOT come to Manchester he wants to be known has the greatest to ever lace a pair of gloves on , and he won't risk that for no amount of money, besides it would be worth more in the states anyway, him and Gatti was a sellout plus ppv figures in the states would be huge.

Cotti he will go up and in any case don't think they will want him he moves to quick .

Don't count out a rematch with zoo , apparantly he did'nt suffer any harmful effects and he's still not quit the rumour is he stil wants one last fight in Moscow, now what remains to be seen is if he does wantt a rematch , given that he now has a hard fight under his belt to remind him he is'nt invincible , and he would want it in moscow , and on top of that you could guarantee he would'nt allow a english ref .

WOULD RICKY HATTON GIVE ZOO A RETURN at least in these circumstances, would he give Zoo the same things Zoo gave him .doubt it because it was'nt has easy a fight has some think the fight im watched was fairly close , and I agree with the yanks get a ref in there who does'nt allow the wrestling and holding , and you have a different fight,

Not taking anything away from Hatton he done what he had to do , but no where else in the world would he off got away with the holding wrestling and flagrant punch to the nuts like he did in Manchester

bigynzing · Post by **bigynzing** » 29 Jun 2005, 08:32

If i was Witter right now...i`d be bustin my balls to get the maussa fight.

Wolfman91 · Post by **Wolfman91** » 29 Jun 2005, 08:57

If Hatton fights Maussa and wins (a foregon conclusion as far as I'm concerned) he will be become the WBA Super champion which means the the top 2 in the WBA ratings will fight for the WBA regular title. This gives Hatton more time to fight his mandatory, which would be the WBA regular title holder.

I think this is an easy first defence for Hatton and I think they could easily sell it in the UK. Doubt they could sell it in the states though.

I'd much rather see him against Mayweather or Coutto but I guess time will tell.

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