Great piece on journeymen - includes Peter Buckley interview

[dondada]

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/insigh ... and-others

Great work from Jon Briggs.

[Counter-puncher]

excellent stuff

[Scottrf]

Good article.

[black panther]

Great read Jon.

[Coco]

I'm suprised I wasn't worthy of a comment!!

[pnejon]

I'm suprised I wasn't worthy of a comment!!

sorry mate, seen you posting on here for ages but never found out who you were!!!

[dondada]

I'm suprised I wasn't worthy of a comment!!

sorry mate, seen you posting on here for ages but never found out who you were!!!

It's Joe Calzaghe. This is the only thing that keeps his boredom away these days

[Jeff Thomas]

Brilliant that I beat thorpey and Peter and they were both tough fighters and great lads

[palooka]

Oh, I enjoyed reading that

[pyenest77]

Quality piece of work

[johnnygreaves]

Just wanted to say thanks to Mr brings for representing us boys. We don't get much press so I hope our comments enlighten a few of the lads who think were simply crap fighters. We as journeyman know we do a much needed job, I for one, even with the losses am proud as, doing what we do is no easy gig!

[princess]

Just wanted to say thanks to Mr brings for representing us boys. We don't get much press so I hope our comments enlighten a few of the lads who think were simply crap fighters. We as journeyman know we do a much needed job, I for one, even with the losses am proud as, doing what we do is no easy gig!

life blood of the game without good journeymen take jobs at hours notice the promoters would be fucked RESPECT

[pnejon]

Just wanted to say thanks to Mr brings for representing us boys. We don't get much press so I hope our comments enlighten a few of the lads who think were simply crap fighters. We as journeyman know we do a much needed job, I for one, even with the losses am proud as, doing what we do is no easy gig!

its all good johnny, the only problem is now i've got your phone number i'm gonna bombard your phone with sh*t jokes every day!

[johnnygreaves]

Ha ha ha, your writings good but your jokes are awfull pal,lol. Good work mate, people being interested in our job makes it worthwhile. Thank you

[Scottrf]

Ha ha ha, your writings good but your jokes are awfull pal,lol. Good work mate, people being interested in our job makes it worthwhile. Thank you

Every boxing fan is interested, some just don't know it!

[Giancarlo]

Great article.

[whicker]

It's a good article, and I enjoyed reading it.

Never the less, it wouldn't hurt for the author to be a bit critical too. Are fighters that lose all the time a good thing for professional sport? For sure, journeymen DO have a role- as is well explained in the article- but still, there is a bad side to the "journeyman" business- after a while, journeyman fights just get dull.

Sure, one or two jurneymen fights on a card are useful- and for this journeymen do a good job- but when 60% plus, or even the whole card is journeymen fights, thats lessening the competative nature of the sport- it almost becomes like watching a semi-competative sparing session.

[mbudgen]

It's a good article, and I enjoyed reading it.

Never the less, it wouldn't hurt for the author to be a bit critical too. Are fighters that lose all the time a good thing for professional sport? For sure, journeymen DO have a role- as is well explained in the article- but still, there is a bad side to the "journeyman" business- after a while, journeyman fights just get dull.

Sure, one or two jurneymen fights on a card are useful- and for this journeymen do a good job- but when 60% plus, or even the whole card is journeymen fights, thats lessening the competative nature of the sport- it almost becomes like watching a semi-competative sparing session.

I think you should try stepping into the shoes of a promoter though. It's a lot harder than you could ever imagine trying to get 6-7 50/50 fights on a bill. A lot of boxers and there managers dont want 50/50 fights they want to protect the '0' and eventually get a big fight on a tv show.

Full respect to Journeymen they are the life and soul of small hall boxing! (and tv undercards)

[gkt999]

great read Jon, great work.

[whicker]

I think you should try stepping into the shoes of a promoter though. It's a lot harder than you could ever imagine trying to get 6-7 50/50 fights on a bill. A lot of boxers and there managers dont want 50/50 fights they want to protect the '0' and eventually get a big fight on a tv show.

Full respect to Journeymen they are the life and soul of small hall boxing! (and tv undercards)

For sure, and I do know it's a tricky business.

I've nothing against journeymen bouts, as mentioned. And small hall boxing is what it is- fair enough.

Just that, really, they shouldn't be the whole card, or the majority of it in my opinion.

A good example of a show "done right" was the Hayemaker show, at the Liverpool echo - Dodson V Quigley -that had some journeyman bouts, but a mix of other bouts too.

And I simply disagree about TV undercard bouts. In a country where we get, what, 2 or 3 live fights a WEEK sometimes, surely they can find some more meaningful/competative bouts to show?

As stated, prospect V journeymen bouts are good for learning, for building records, for work, to please home fans/ticket buyers etc- all good reasons, for sure. But as live tv entertainment, they are not the best things to show.

[dsimpson]

Cracking article. Great read. Thanks Jon, really enjoyed that.

[keithmoonhangover]

Superb article Jon. Hope the questions helped.