Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

The memory of Jack Quarry's red head girlfriend brought this to mind . . .

"Scarlett"

Scarlett the Harlot, queen of the whores.
Pride of the Eastside, all covered in sores.

[Rick Farris]

El Boxeo . . .

I received a 12 minute promo for film maker Alan Swyer's documentary on Latino boxers.
I'm authorized to preview the promo, but not on-line in this forum.
If any of you would like to see the promo, I will forward the link, with instructions how to access it.
Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Bob Arum and a lot of boxing personalities including Frank Baltazar and I are featured in the full length feature.
Send me your e-mail address via PM and I'll get it to you.

-Rick

[Cholo]

Local fight fans are still arguing about Art Aragon and Enrique Bolanos-i,e., which was the better drawing-card ? Sam Balter of the air-waves, also columnist of the L.A. Herald-Express, points out that Art Aragon's purses for 16 fights was $300,922. whereas Bolanos' pay for 21 fights was $272,169. He casts his vote for the Golden Boy. But it still remains a moot question, getting mooter all the time.
John Hall, of the Mirror-News, comes up with some interesting figures for 1956. Top man in the matter of purses, to nobody's surprise, was Art Aragon: he received $48.674 for five local fights. Next was Cisco Andrade; one local fight,$24.278. Five fights in L.A. had net gates of $20.000 or over; Robinson-Olson, $202.354, a California record; Aragon-Andrade, $84.928; Aragon-Carter,$38.312; Gavilan-Vejar $21.836; and Carter-Salas, $20.884. These were all over net.
Some of the others grossed well over $20.000-such as Peacock-Garcia and Carter-Jordan....From the Ring 1957.

[kikibalt]

Local fight fans are still arguing about Art Aragon and Enrique Bolanos-i,e., which was the better drawing-card ? Sam Balter of the air-waves, also columnist of the L.A. Herald-Express, points out that Art Aragon's purses for 16 fights was $300,922. whereas Bolanos' pay for 21 fights was $272,169. He casts his vote for the Golden Boy. But it still remains a moot question, getting mooter all the time.
John Hall, of the Mirror-News, comes up with some interesting figures for 1956. Top man in the matter of purses, to nobody's surprise, was Art Aragon: he received $48.674 for five local fights. Next was Cisco Andrade; one local fight,$24.278. Five fights in L.A. had net gates of $20.000 or over; Robinson-Olson, $202.354, a California record; Aragon-Andrade, $84.928; Aragon-Carter,$38.312; Gavilan-Vejar $21.836; and Carter-Salas, $20.884. These were all over net.
Some of the others grossed well over $20.000-such as Peacock-Garcia and Carter-Jordan....From the Ring 1957.

Art Argon I think the better drawing card, but I think Bolanos was loved more by the fans. The fans would flock to see Art get his ass handed to him. He didn't care, he would cry all the way to the bank he would say...

[kikibalt]

Babe McCoy...Olympic Auditorium matchmaker....1950's

[Cholo]

Local fight fans are still arguing about Art Aragon and Enrique Bolanos-i,e., which was the better drawing-card ? Sam Balter of the air-waves, also columnist of the L.A. Herald-Express, points out that Art Aragon's purses for 16 fights was $300,922. whereas Bolanos' pay for 21 fights was $272,169. He casts his vote for the Golden Boy. But it still remains a moot question, getting mooter all the time.
John Hall, of the Mirror-News, comes up with some interesting figures for 1956. Top man in the matter of purses, to nobody's surprise, was Art Aragon: he received $48.674 for five local fights. Next was Cisco Andrade; one local fight,$24.278. Five fights in L.A. had net gates of $20.000 or over; Robinson-Olson, $202.354, a California record; Aragon-Andrade, $84.928; Aragon-Carter,$38.312; Gavilan-Vejar $21.836; and Carter-Salas, $20.884. These were all over net.
Some of the others grossed well over $20.000-such as Peacock-Garcia and Carter-Jordan....From the Ring 1957.

Art Argon I think the better drawing card, but I think Bolanos was loved more by the fans. The fans would flock to see Art get his ass handed to him. He didn't care, he would cry all the way to the bank he would say...

Frank, I liked Artie's attitude, cool dude..

[CNorkusJr]

Babe McCoy's face.
Thank You Frank for putting a face to a name that I read alot about here. Gracias.

[CNorkusJr]

El Boxeo . . .

I received a 12 minute promo for film maker Alan Swyer's documentary on Latino boxers.
I'm authorized to preview the promo, but not on-line in this forum.
If any of you would like to see the promo, I will forward the link, with instructions how to access it.
Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Bob Arum and a lot of boxing personalities including Frank Baltazar and I are featured in the full length feature.
Send me your e-mail address via PM and I'll get it to you.

-Rick

Rick, Are there going to be two versions on this eventually, one in Spanish and one in English.? Are most of the interviews held in English or Spanish ?(Subtitles)

[Rick Farris]

Babe McCoy...Olympic Auditorium matchmaker....1950's

Babe McCoy . . .

Like most of us here, I've known the name Babe McCoy for many years.
I was just a young kid when he making matches at the Olympic for Aileen Eaton.
After McCoy, came George Parnassus, followed by Mickey Davies then Don Chargin.
Nobody, not even Don Chargin, knew Aileen better than Don Fraser did.
Don told me recently what I already pretty much knew and that is Babe McCoy was a gangster.
He was associated with Mickey Cohen, the Seca brothers and others.
Fraser said that Aileen was not a part of his "fixing" fights, etc.
When somebody would cross McCoy, he would confront them and attack them.
If a boxer (or manager) didn't play along with McCoy's plans, they were usually black balled and could not get fights anywhere.

[Rick Farris]

El Boxeo . . .

I received a 12 minute promo for film maker Alan Swyer's documentary on Latino boxers.
I'm authorized to preview the promo, but not on-line in this forum.
If any of you would like to see the promo, I will forward the link, with instructions how to access it.
Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Bob Arum and a lot of boxing personalities including Frank Baltazar and I are featured in the full length feature.
Send me your e-mail address via PM and I'll get it to you.

-Rick

Rick, Are there going to be two versions on this eventually, one in Spanish and one in English.? Are most of the interviews held in English or Spanish ?(Subtitles)

The version I have is in English. All of the interviews are designed for an English speaking audience, although some of the interview subjects are speaking Spanish with sub-titles on the screen in English. When the product is distributed, or ready for broadcast, I imagine it will be made available in several languages.
I know that most main stream TV series productions are distributed world wide in a variety of languages. Michael Landon one day showed up on the set of Highway To Heaven with a smile on his face and a VHS video cassette. He called a few of us over to a montor and played a scene from "Bonanza" that had been dubbed in Japanese. There is nothing funnier than seeing Hoss Cartwright (actor Dan Blocker) sitting on a horse, speaking Japanese in a high oriental voice.
I haven't seen the entire film yet, just the promo, which I will be happy to share with any of our readers via e-mail. I appear briefly about 2 minutes into the promo, right after Oscar De La Hoya, and just before Larry Merchant.

[kikibalt]

El Boxeo . . .

I received a 12 minute promo for film maker Alan Swyer's documentary on Latino boxers.
I'm authorized to preview the promo, but not on-line in this forum.
If any of you would like to see the promo, I will forward the link, with instructions how to access it.
Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Bob Arum and a lot of boxing personalities including Frank Baltazar and I are featured in the full length feature.
Send me your e-mail address via PM and I'll get it to you.

-Rick

Rick, Are there going to be two versions on this eventually, one in Spanish and one in English.? Are most of the interviews held in English or Spanish ?(Subtitles)

The version I have is in English. All of the interviews are designed for an English speaking audience, although some of the interview subjects are speaking Spanish with sub-titles on the screen in English. When the product is distributed, or ready for broadcast, I imagine it will be made available in several languages.
I know that most main stream TV series productions are distributed world wide in a variety of languages. Michael Landon one day showed up on the set of Highway To Heaven with a smile on his face and a VHS video cassette. He called a few of us over to a montor and played a scene from "Bonanza" that had been dubbed in Japanese. There is nothing funnier than seeing Hoss Cartwright (actor Dan Blocker) sitting on a horse, speaking Japanese in a high oriental voice.
I haven't seen the entire film yet, just the promo, which I will be happy to share with any of our readers via e-mail. I appear briefly about 2 minutes into the promo, right after Oscar De La Hoya, and just before Larry Merchant.

I can't run the damn think, say I need Quicktime, which I been downloading all morning and it still won't run....

[Rick Farris]

El Boxeo . . .

I have forwarded the link to a couple of people and they had difficulty opening it?
Sorry, don't know what to do about it.

[Panzerfaust]

El Boxeo . . .

I have forwarded the link to a couple of people and they had difficulty opening it?
Sorry, don't know what to do about it.

could you forward it to me aswell Rick?

[Rick Farris]

El Boxeo . . .

I have forwarded the link to a couple of people and they had difficulty opening it?
Sorry, don't know what to do about it.

could you forward it to me aswell Rick?

It's in you e-mail.

[raylawpc]

Babe McCoy...Olympic Auditorium matchmaker....1950's

Babe McCoy . . .

Like most of us here, I've known the name Babe McCoy for many years.
I was just a young kid when he making matches at the Olympic for Aileen Eaton.
After McCoy, came George Parnassus, followed by Mickey Davies then Don Chargin.
Nobody, not even Don Chargin, knew Aileen better than Don Fraser did.
Don told me recently what I already pretty much knew and that is Babe McCoy was a gangster.
He was associated with Mickey Cohen, the Seca brothers and others.
Fraser said that Aileen was not a part of his "fixing" fights, etc.
When somebody would cross McCoy, he would confront them and attack them.
If a boxer (or manager) didn't play along with McCoy's plans, they were usually black balled and could not get fights anywhere.

. . . and his brother was probably one of the worst world champions in the history of the sport.

Didn't Babe McCoy get banned from boxing for life by the California State Athletic Commission in the mid-1950s for fixing fights?

[Panzerfaust]

El Boxeo . . .

I have forwarded the link to a couple of people and they had difficulty opening it?
Sorry, don't know what to do about it.

could you forward it to me aswell Rick?

It's in you e-mail.

It looks great!!

looking forward to the full release!!!

[kikibalt]

Babe McCoy...Olympic Auditorium matchmaker....1950's

Babe McCoy . . .

Like most of us here, I've known the name Babe McCoy for many years.
I was just a young kid when he making matches at the Olympic for Aileen Eaton.
After McCoy, came George Parnassus, followed by Mickey Davies then Don Chargin.
Nobody, not even Don Chargin, knew Aileen better than Don Fraser did.
Don told me recently what I already pretty much knew and that is Babe McCoy was a gangster.
He was associated with Mickey Cohen, the Seca brothers and others.
Fraser said that Aileen was not a part of his "fixing" fights, etc.
When somebody would cross McCoy, he would confront them and attack them.
If a boxer (or manager) didn't play along with McCoy's plans, they were usually black balled and could not get fights anywhere.

. . . and his brother was probably one of the worst world champions in the history of the sport.

Didn't Babe McCoy get banned from boxing for life by the California State Athletic Commission in the mid-1950s for fixing fights?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

"The Fix In California"

I remember as a young guy seeing McCoy at the Olympic Auditorium....

[kikibalt]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

Exit Art, Laughing

[kikibalt]

Babe McCoy

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Babe_McCoy

[CNorkusJr]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

Exit Art, Laughing

Mighty high times for boxing fans back then.
Thanks for the two posts Frank.
Looks like your feeling a bit better by posting another series of relevant things. Thanks.

[kikibalt]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

Exit Art, Laughing

Mighty high times for boxing fans back then.
Thanks for the two posts Frank.
Looks like your feeling a bit better by posting another series of relevant things. Thanks.

Nope, not feeling better. I am still in bed at 1:04 PM

[CNorkusJr]

Sometimes these things just have to run its course.
Hang in there, Frank. We are all glad your writing in the forum.

[CNorkusJr]

Can't say enough about the movie trailer, Rick.
Thanks for the link.
Just in case other guys are just getting "one" of the videos.
There is a short one that runs about 40 seconds.
And there is the longer version of the 11 minutes.(It contains the same scenes from the 40 sec. one also).
Make sure you you see the 11 min version. View #1,2,3 being used.
Rick,looks like you need a haircut (as Mel would say)

2 things spring out right away. Great to see Carlos Palomino in video clip. Haven't heard much about him lately-looks great. I was a big fan of his.
Also, Alex Ramos. Last saw Alex about 2 or 3 years ago at a NJ HOF meeting. He was doing great. My dad reffed a fight or two of his in the Felt Forum. Huge New York following for a great guy and puncher.
Then he had the medical issues out your way. For a time, the reports were down right dire about his condition. I hope his interviews were after that situation because he looks good today.

[Cholo]

Rick, Great trailer El Boxeo, looking forward to this one....

[Cholo]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

Exit Art, Laughing

Frank, Art Aragon, what a character....