Gray-Fox wrote:It's highly likely he has that phony hatred for the "white devil" like many Black Muslims.
Assumptions and stereo typing there Gary, kind of getting race mixed up with religion. Faiths and religion does not look at or discriminate against skin colour......
Read about the Nation of Islam.
Read about the main religion itself....Not made up sects which you get in all religions. Ku Klux Klan for instance are a Christian group who believe Black people should not exist. All religion in its truye form does not discriminate against race. Is Tony Blair's sister in-law a follower of the 'Nation of Islam' ? She's Muslim. do you think you have to have dark skin to follow that? Oh anyone who's Muslim who happens to have black skin must follow the Nation of Islam'! I suppose in your eye's every Irish Catholic must support and agree with the IRA?! Please dont be so nieve
Final round wrote:
I hope that part is not true...
That part isn't correct. He has nothing against anyone because of their race.
Really???? I suggest you have not had many conversations with him then.....
I'm not saying he goes around saying 'Death to whitey' from the highest towers; but I suggest you talk to many people in boxing about him and find out what they say.
Oh I have spoke to Spencer many a time and he has helped me out and I know of a family he has helped raise money for their sick child...Hey and guess what, I'm white and so was the family. Like Jane has stated, I take as I find. We should go round judging people on 'what others say' as you appear to have, find out things for yourself before you judge I suggest.
reggaereggae wrote:
Well, I haveheard this from a number of people; and heard some comments firsthand....
Spencer is a chameleon - look at how he supposedly turned 'muslim' when he was trying to work with Anthony Small / Danny Williams
He can be charming; but approach with caution
He didn't ''supposedly turn muslim while trying to work with Anthony Small and Danny Williams.'' He was muslim certainly before Anthony Small converted. Anyway, Spencer has 'tried' and has worked with more than these two fighters and fighters of different faiths. Think we have a case here of some looking for fault as they dont like not only seeing others making a success but dont like even seeing others attempting and trying to be a success, why?..... Maybe because their not capable themselves :wink:
LOL on the latter point - 1) Spencer is hardly a success, 2) actually I am very successful in my field....
Anyway I haven't the time to get into one of these forum slagging sessions, but go and ask Small or any other Muslim who knows Spencer well and they will tell you they regard him as a 'fake muslim'....
Frankly I don't care one way or another as organized religion is a crock of shit anyway, especially those that claim they are the 'only way' to God.
Good luck to Spencer if he has changed but you may find a lot of people in boxing don't trust his word or like him especially.
At your first point in which you laugh at, if you read the content correctly you will see that I actually said "Think we have a case here of some looking for fault as they dont like not only seeing others making a success but dont like even seeing others attempting and trying to be a success. And he is certainly trying to make a success if infact he isn't in your eye's. Funny now that you haven't got time for it now. Who made it a 'forum slagging session'? I'd say its opinions not slagging, I'm saying what I think is right not slagging. You said what you thought was right. Expression of opinion doesn't mean slagging. Interesting point you make here so tell me, do you have this disliking for Spencer because he is Muslim.....Or as you now claim 'a fake Muslim'? And anyway, what right do you have to judge one someones religious faith? Does he shove it in peoples faces? No he doesn't. Some people I know who know of him dont even know his religious belief so he's hardly 'extreme' (as the word which is liked here)
Final round wrote:
I hope that part is not true...
That part isn't correct. He has nothing against anyone because of their race.
Really???? I suggest you have not had many conversations with him then.....
I'm not saying he goes around saying 'Death to whitey' from the highest towers; but I suggest you talk to many people in boxing about him and find out what they say.
Like I've said I take those how I find them, not what others say although I actually have heard others speak nicely and highly of him. Your suggestion is wrong as I have had conversations with him.
Would you's here say the same about Danny Williams? Would you stereo type him? As after all he's black....And happens to be Muslim. Really amazed at how many ignorant and mis informed people there are
Des1 wrote:Would you's here say the same about Danny Williams? Would you stereo type him? As after all he's black....And happens to be Muslim. Really amazed at how many ignorant and mis informed people there are
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Er no one is picking on Spencer because he is either black or muslim.... it's him as an individual.
And Danny is one of the nicest people in boxing, everyone agrees on that.
Anyway I think the bottom line is everyone has their opinion and everyone has different experiences of an individual.
One's opinion does not trump another. Some people like Spencer, others don't. People also change. My personal experiences of him are mixed, as are the conversations I have had about him through boxing people.
I am not a fan of his in particular, others are. Good luck to him as a promoter, but some of the things I have heard from his mouth and others' mouths do not thrill me.
Er......."No one is picking on Spencer because he is either black or muslim" ???? Well I suggest you actually read all the comments here because it certainly appears so or something to do with it at least. Please dont lead me the boring procedure of "quoting" others, just read the posts.....
Gray-Fox wrote:Spencer is a wanker, just look how hw was talking in that video.
Opinions, I imagine he'd probably think that you was a wanker if he knew of you, but hey we're all entitled to opinions and I'm sure he wouldn't lose any sleep over yours of him....
Read about the main religion itself....Not made up sects which you get in all religions. Ku Klux Klan for instance are a Christian group who believe Black people should not exist. All religion in its truye form does not discriminate against race. Is Tony Blair's sister in-law a follower of the 'Nation of Islam' ? She's Muslim. do you think you have to have dark skin to follow that? Oh anyone who's Muslim who happens to have black skin must follow the Nation of Islam'! 
I suppose in your eye's every Irish Catholic must support and agree with the IRA?! Please dont be so nieve
