Rhodes now best priced 6/1 to pull off the upset. I think he is overpriced and represents good value!
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Rhodes-Canelo build up
Rhodes-Canelo build up
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MightyWarrior
- Heavyweight
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
I reckon Canelo knocks out Rhodes. I know many people are banking on Rhodes connecting and winning by KO, but I reckon the Alvarez chin might be better than expected.
Sure Cotto hurt him, but he hit him with some freakish punches, got about 3 or 4 free full blooded shots in, the type that would leave most fighters unconcious, but Canelo showed real quality to get through that shocker.
Love to see Ryan pull off the win, but bloody hell it's really stacked against him here.
Sure Cotto hurt him, but he hit him with some freakish punches, got about 3 or 4 free full blooded shots in, the type that would leave most fighters unconcious, but Canelo showed real quality to get through that shocker.
Love to see Ryan pull off the win, but bloody hell it's really stacked against him here.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
No doubt Mr Coldwell will have him in tip top shape for this one!! I think Rhodes will make it awkward for Alvarez, I would never ever write Ryan off! He's been around and still wants it so much nows his big chance! 6/1 I'll be having a bit of that!! Bring it home 26
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nelsoninfour
- Heavyweight
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Go ON TEAM RHODESidle talk wrote:No doubt Mr Coldwell will have him in tip top shape for this one!! I think Rhodes will make it awkward for Alvarez, I would never ever write Ryan off! He's been around and still wants it so much nows his big chance! 6/1 I'll be having a bit of that!! Bring it home 26
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reggaereggae
- Heavyweight
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
An ageing Rhodes, who got stopped by Lee Blundell, in Mexico, against Mexico's new star fighter....er no
Think Chavez-Holligan in terms of likelihood
Think Chavez-Holligan in terms of likelihood
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Johnny Cucumber
- Cruiserweight
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Rhodes can win this, he's not going in with a Bhop or S Martinez, fighters who have done it the hard way and have seriously learnt there trade against tough fighters.
Alvarez has been manoeuvred to become Champ because of his Popularity in his home country.
Come on Ryan
Alvarez has been manoeuvred to become Champ because of his Popularity in his home country.
Come on Ryan
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Rhodes deffo worth a flutter at 6-1. Gonna wait till the GILF tips Alvarez and lump even more on.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
I got 17/2 for Rhodes ko/tko earlier in the week on Bet365. Put a tenner on it cos i'm a high roller.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Rhodes isn't winning this fight keep your money even if it is good value
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
i think rhodes will stink this one out....he's been sparring curtis woodhouse...what type of preparation is that?
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Chris W 1982
- Heavyweight
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Far too much national bias in the build up to this one.
Rhodes has a decent puncher's chance but I can see Alvarez setting a fast pace and maintaing it throughout.
Rhodes has a decent puncher's chance but I can see Alvarez setting a fast pace and maintaing it throughout.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Good analysis here on The Ring:
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1677 ... -vs-rhodes
Head to Head: Alvarez vs. Rhodes
by Doug Fischer and Michael Rosenthal
Jun 17th, 2011
HEAD-TO-HEAD
Skills: Alvarez and Rhodes are versatile boxer-punchers who can stalk-and-punish or stick-and-move depending upon the situation. Both fighters are accurate punchers (especially with their jab) and counter-punchers with good timing. Alvarez, the better combination puncher of the two, seems more at home stalking and exchanging shots but he can move effectively. Rhodes, the fighter with the more fluid footwork, seems more adept at hit-and-move tactics. The British veteran often switches his stance (from right-handed to southpaw) during his fights, which throws off some opponents and helps him set up his offense.
Edge: Even
Power: Alvarez, who has stopped a little over 70 percent of his opponents, is known for his heavy hands, but it should be noted that he fought mainly at welterweight prior to May of last year. The young Mexican does not possess one-punch KO power. He generally wears his opposition down with pressure, combination punching, and a mean body attack. Rhodes, who turned pro at middleweight and has fought as heavy as 169 pounds, has stopped a little over 60 percent of his opponents but he’s used to whacking out much bigger fighters than Alvarez has faced. His hand speed and the odd, unpredictable angles that he launches some of his punches from contributes to his ability knockdown and KO opponents.
Edge: Rhodes
Speed and athletic ability: Alvarez is a strong, all-around athlete who possess good power and better-than-average speed and reflexes. However, Rhodes is faster, despite being the older and naturally bigger man. The switch-hitter has quicker reflexes, better balance and superior hand-eye coordination. In short, Rhodes is a little more dynamic than Alvarez.
Edge: Rhodes
Defense: Alvarez is not your typical aggressive Mexican warrior who happily wades face-first into his opponent’s punches. He keeps his hands up, blocks well, and isn’t embarrassed to take a step back when he needs to. However, his defensive prowess doesn’t remind anyone of Salvador Sanchez or Miguel Canto. The 20-year-old titleholder can be hit and he’s often tagged by quick jabs and well-timed left hooks. Rhodes is comfortable fighting with his hands down, which leaves his chin open for an accurate puncher, but he isn’t easy to catch because his head and upper body are always in motion if his feet aren’t moving. Rhodes expertly leans away from punches and he does a good job of tucking his chin behind his lead shoulder.
Edge: Rhodes
Experience: Despite turning pro when Alvarez was four years old, Rhodes has only fought 10 more rounds (235 to 225) than the young phenom. Both men fought their first scheduled 12-round bouts ridiculously early in their pro careers. Rhodes did so in his 11th pro bout, when he won the coveted British title. Alvarez did so in his 15th pro bout when he won the Jalisco state title. Both have fought the 12-round distance four times. Alvarez has faced three major titleholders (Carlos Baldomir, Miguel Vazquez and Lovemore Ndou). Rhodes has fought one (Otis Grant). However, it should be noted that Vazquez, a current lightweight beltholder, was not suited for the heavier weights he fought Alvarez at, and Baldomir and Ndou were both pushing 40 when they fought the up-and-comer. Grant, however, was a talented, natural middleweight who was in his physical prime at the time he faced a still-green Rhodes.
Edge: Even
Chin: Alvarez has never been down or stopped but he was badly rocked in the first round of his fight with Jose Cotto (by a left hook) last May. He recovered quickly, however, and scored a flash knockdown in the next round before wearing the veteran down to a ninth-round stoppage. Rhodes has been stopped twice, by Jason Matthews (KO 2) and Lee Blundell (TKO 3), both of whom were solid fighters at the time (1999 and 2002). Rhodes’ chin has held up well since the Blundell fight, a span of 21 bouts, which includes matches with heavy handed Gary Lockett and Jaime Moore. It should also be noted that Rhodes is used to getting hit by heavier fighters than Alvarez has faced on average.
Edge: Even
Conditioning: Rhodes’ dedication to boxing was questioned in the late 1990s and early part of the last decade, but he has clearly recommitted himself to the sport since his loss to Lockett in 2006. He has to be in supreme condition just to make the junior middleweight limit. Alvarez, who likes to come on strong in the late rounds of his fights, is usually in excellent shape, but he admits to having been less-than 100 percent for the Hatton fight. He spent a month in Big Bear, Calif., training at 7,000 feet and sparring with middleweight standout Gennady Golovkin, in preparation for the Rhodes fight.
Edge: Even
Wear and tear: Neither fighter has taken an extended beating, but having spent 16 years in the pro ranks has to have taken a toll on Rhodes' 34-year-old body.
Edge: Alvarez
Corner: Rhodes’ trainer, Dave Coldwell, a former flyweight journeyman, has done an excellent job refining the foundation built by the fighter’s first coach, Sheffield legend Brendan Ingle. Rhodes is exhibiting the best form of his career and Coldwell is definitely a factor in the veteran’s recent resurgence. Alvarez’s trainers Jose and Edison “Eddy” Reynoso guided the careers of former titleholders Oscar Larios and Javier Jauregui. Eddy Reynoso currently trains three-division belt holder Koki Kameda. The father-and-son trainer/manager team have coached Alvarez since he began seriously training for boxing at age 13.
Edge: Alvarez
Outcome: The veteran challenger’s fluid lateral movement and jabs delivered from alternating orthodox and southpaw stances will frustrate Alvarez in the early rounds of the bout. The young titleholder will patiently stalk his opponent who tries to catch him with pot shots whenever he plants his feet. The two will exchange punches whenever Rhodes maneuvers near the ropes. Alvarez will score to the body but the older man will land hard counter shots that back the younger man off. Alvarez will step up his pressure in the middle rounds and successfully cut the ring off on the Brit. However, he’ll find that Rhodes is able to slip most of his punches, even when delivered in bunches. When Alvarez least expects it the veteran will explode off the ropes with a left cross-right uppercut combination that rocks him back on his heels. Alvarez will backpedal out of the danger zone on wobbly legs as Rhodes goes for the kill. Although still clearly buzzed, Alvarez will remain calm and focused as he blocks and leans away from Rhodes’ swinging follow-up shots. The Mexican favorite will even fire back before the end of the round. Rhodes will press the attack in the following round as Alvarez continues to move while he recovers. They will trade punches whenever in range. Alvarez will land more during the exchanges but Rhodes will snap the youth’s head back with fast jabs and single power shots. Alvarez will catch a second wind in the late rounds and surprise Rhodes with an left uppercut-hook to the body combination that stuns the Englishman in his tracks. Rhodes will wisely tie up Alvarez and survive the round but he will visibly slow down during the championship rounds. Alvarez, spurred on by 15,000 “Can-e-lo” chanting fans, will finish strong although he won’t be able to stop his tough challenger.
Prediction: Alvarez by close, perhaps majority decision.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1677 ... -vs-rhodes
Head to Head: Alvarez vs. Rhodes
by Doug Fischer and Michael Rosenthal
Jun 17th, 2011
HEAD-TO-HEAD
Skills: Alvarez and Rhodes are versatile boxer-punchers who can stalk-and-punish or stick-and-move depending upon the situation. Both fighters are accurate punchers (especially with their jab) and counter-punchers with good timing. Alvarez, the better combination puncher of the two, seems more at home stalking and exchanging shots but he can move effectively. Rhodes, the fighter with the more fluid footwork, seems more adept at hit-and-move tactics. The British veteran often switches his stance (from right-handed to southpaw) during his fights, which throws off some opponents and helps him set up his offense.
Edge: Even
Power: Alvarez, who has stopped a little over 70 percent of his opponents, is known for his heavy hands, but it should be noted that he fought mainly at welterweight prior to May of last year. The young Mexican does not possess one-punch KO power. He generally wears his opposition down with pressure, combination punching, and a mean body attack. Rhodes, who turned pro at middleweight and has fought as heavy as 169 pounds, has stopped a little over 60 percent of his opponents but he’s used to whacking out much bigger fighters than Alvarez has faced. His hand speed and the odd, unpredictable angles that he launches some of his punches from contributes to his ability knockdown and KO opponents.
Edge: Rhodes
Speed and athletic ability: Alvarez is a strong, all-around athlete who possess good power and better-than-average speed and reflexes. However, Rhodes is faster, despite being the older and naturally bigger man. The switch-hitter has quicker reflexes, better balance and superior hand-eye coordination. In short, Rhodes is a little more dynamic than Alvarez.
Edge: Rhodes
Defense: Alvarez is not your typical aggressive Mexican warrior who happily wades face-first into his opponent’s punches. He keeps his hands up, blocks well, and isn’t embarrassed to take a step back when he needs to. However, his defensive prowess doesn’t remind anyone of Salvador Sanchez or Miguel Canto. The 20-year-old titleholder can be hit and he’s often tagged by quick jabs and well-timed left hooks. Rhodes is comfortable fighting with his hands down, which leaves his chin open for an accurate puncher, but he isn’t easy to catch because his head and upper body are always in motion if his feet aren’t moving. Rhodes expertly leans away from punches and he does a good job of tucking his chin behind his lead shoulder.
Edge: Rhodes
Experience: Despite turning pro when Alvarez was four years old, Rhodes has only fought 10 more rounds (235 to 225) than the young phenom. Both men fought their first scheduled 12-round bouts ridiculously early in their pro careers. Rhodes did so in his 11th pro bout, when he won the coveted British title. Alvarez did so in his 15th pro bout when he won the Jalisco state title. Both have fought the 12-round distance four times. Alvarez has faced three major titleholders (Carlos Baldomir, Miguel Vazquez and Lovemore Ndou). Rhodes has fought one (Otis Grant). However, it should be noted that Vazquez, a current lightweight beltholder, was not suited for the heavier weights he fought Alvarez at, and Baldomir and Ndou were both pushing 40 when they fought the up-and-comer. Grant, however, was a talented, natural middleweight who was in his physical prime at the time he faced a still-green Rhodes.
Edge: Even
Chin: Alvarez has never been down or stopped but he was badly rocked in the first round of his fight with Jose Cotto (by a left hook) last May. He recovered quickly, however, and scored a flash knockdown in the next round before wearing the veteran down to a ninth-round stoppage. Rhodes has been stopped twice, by Jason Matthews (KO 2) and Lee Blundell (TKO 3), both of whom were solid fighters at the time (1999 and 2002). Rhodes’ chin has held up well since the Blundell fight, a span of 21 bouts, which includes matches with heavy handed Gary Lockett and Jaime Moore. It should also be noted that Rhodes is used to getting hit by heavier fighters than Alvarez has faced on average.
Edge: Even
Conditioning: Rhodes’ dedication to boxing was questioned in the late 1990s and early part of the last decade, but he has clearly recommitted himself to the sport since his loss to Lockett in 2006. He has to be in supreme condition just to make the junior middleweight limit. Alvarez, who likes to come on strong in the late rounds of his fights, is usually in excellent shape, but he admits to having been less-than 100 percent for the Hatton fight. He spent a month in Big Bear, Calif., training at 7,000 feet and sparring with middleweight standout Gennady Golovkin, in preparation for the Rhodes fight.
Edge: Even
Wear and tear: Neither fighter has taken an extended beating, but having spent 16 years in the pro ranks has to have taken a toll on Rhodes' 34-year-old body.
Edge: Alvarez
Corner: Rhodes’ trainer, Dave Coldwell, a former flyweight journeyman, has done an excellent job refining the foundation built by the fighter’s first coach, Sheffield legend Brendan Ingle. Rhodes is exhibiting the best form of his career and Coldwell is definitely a factor in the veteran’s recent resurgence. Alvarez’s trainers Jose and Edison “Eddy” Reynoso guided the careers of former titleholders Oscar Larios and Javier Jauregui. Eddy Reynoso currently trains three-division belt holder Koki Kameda. The father-and-son trainer/manager team have coached Alvarez since he began seriously training for boxing at age 13.
Edge: Alvarez
Outcome: The veteran challenger’s fluid lateral movement and jabs delivered from alternating orthodox and southpaw stances will frustrate Alvarez in the early rounds of the bout. The young titleholder will patiently stalk his opponent who tries to catch him with pot shots whenever he plants his feet. The two will exchange punches whenever Rhodes maneuvers near the ropes. Alvarez will score to the body but the older man will land hard counter shots that back the younger man off. Alvarez will step up his pressure in the middle rounds and successfully cut the ring off on the Brit. However, he’ll find that Rhodes is able to slip most of his punches, even when delivered in bunches. When Alvarez least expects it the veteran will explode off the ropes with a left cross-right uppercut combination that rocks him back on his heels. Alvarez will backpedal out of the danger zone on wobbly legs as Rhodes goes for the kill. Although still clearly buzzed, Alvarez will remain calm and focused as he blocks and leans away from Rhodes’ swinging follow-up shots. The Mexican favorite will even fire back before the end of the round. Rhodes will press the attack in the following round as Alvarez continues to move while he recovers. They will trade punches whenever in range. Alvarez will land more during the exchanges but Rhodes will snap the youth’s head back with fast jabs and single power shots. Alvarez will catch a second wind in the late rounds and surprise Rhodes with an left uppercut-hook to the body combination that stuns the Englishman in his tracks. Rhodes will wisely tie up Alvarez and survive the round but he will visibly slow down during the championship rounds. Alvarez, spurred on by 15,000 “Can-e-lo” chanting fans, will finish strong although he won’t be able to stop his tough challenger.
Prediction: Alvarez by close, perhaps majority decision.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
9-1 Rhodes stoppage. No way he wins a decision in Me-hee-ho.
http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news/
http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news/
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Outcome: The veteran challenger’s fluid lateral movement and jabs delivered from alternating orthodox and southpaw stances will frustrate Alvarez in the early rounds of the bout. The young titleholder will patiently stalk his opponent who tries to catch him with pot shots whenever he plants his feet. The two will exchange punches whenever Rhodes maneuvers near the ropes. Alvarez will score to the body but the older man will land hard counter shots that back the younger man off. Alvarez will step up his pressure in the middle rounds and successfully cut the ring off on the Brit. However, he’ll find that Rhodes is able to slip most of his punches, even when delivered in bunches. When Alvarez least expects it the veteran will explode off the ropes with a left cross-right uppercut combination that rocks him back on his heels. Alvarez will backpedal out of the danger zone on wobbly legs as Rhodes goes for the kill. Although still clearly buzzed, Alvarez will remain calm and focused as he blocks and leans away from Rhodes’ swinging follow-up shots. The Mexican favorite will even fire back before the end of the round. Rhodes will press the attack in the following round as Alvarez continues to move while he recovers. They will trade punches whenever in range. Alvarez will land more during the exchanges but Rhodes will snap the youth’s head back with fast jabs and single power shots. Alvarez will catch a second wind in the late rounds and surprise Rhodes with an left uppercut-hook to the body combination that stuns the Englishman in his tracks. Rhodes will wisely tie up Alvarez and survive the round but he will visibly slow down during the championship rounds. Alvarez, spurred on by 15,000 “Can-e-lo” chanting fans, will finish strong although he won’t be able to stop his tough challenger.
Wow!! Sounds like it will be a great fight!
C'mon Ryan, catch him cold at the start and unlike Cotto don't let him off the hook!
Rhodes needs to have the mindset of John Lowey against Erik Morales when they fought in Mexico. John was not intimidated by the crowd at all. Check out from 4.47 on the following link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBEnsdkBVOY
Wow!! Sounds like it will be a great fight!
C'mon Ryan, catch him cold at the start and unlike Cotto don't let him off the hook!
Rhodes needs to have the mindset of John Lowey against Erik Morales when they fought in Mexico. John was not intimidated by the crowd at all. Check out from 4.47 on the following link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBEnsdkBVOY
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
matthew hatton thinks Ryan can get a win 
..had a chat with him yesterday
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/can-rh ... is-verdict
..had a chat with him yesterdayhttp://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/can-rh ... is-verdict
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Monte Fisto
- Cruiserweight
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
I think Alverez will become a great! However I believe Rhodes is gonna provide an upset tomorrow night.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
i think that rhodes will knock him down, but alvarez gets back up and wins on points
maybe.....can't wait for this!
maybe.....can't wait for this!
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
I've only seen Alvarez against Hatton but he didn't look like a superstar to me. He's hittable and Rhodes' power and unorthodoxy could spring an upset.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Weigh-in footage and brief interview with Rhodes on this link http://boxingchannel.com/official-weigh ... -vs-rhodes
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Would love to see Rhodes do it and the kid can be hurt as one of the Cotto boys showed, however he sets a great pace, has respectable if not explosive power and just kind of grinds you down with the workrate, I know Ryan coped with Jamie's workrate but I am not sure he can deal with this kid, he needs to waste nothing and pick something explosive to get through to the kids chin which is very hittable.
Hope I am wrong but can see a corner pull out about 8 or 9.
Good luck Ryan
Hope I am wrong but can see a corner pull out about 8 or 9.
Good luck Ryan
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Think he can do it, gonna be tough but think he'll fight the fight of his life. Had a tie done for in the morning on SKY for a bit of moral support. COME ON RYAN!!! 
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
the thing about rhodes v moore that struck me, from both sides, was the absolute quality and accuracy of the punching. both men had been around for a long time, and obviously didn't have the workrate that young alvarez has. but it was superior punch picking, especially compared to the other hyped up US-based jr middles, kirkland and angulo, the latter of whom would throw punches anywhere, from out of position, and brought nothing other that sheer strength and attitude.
i think rhodes must absolutely nail alvarez with his best shots. from those awkward angles. if he can maintain the quality punching, and do damage, then hopefully it'll work out for him.
after kirkland and angulo have pretty much disappeared - for various reasons - it would be ironic if a british fighter (rhodes) ended up winning a title at 154 pounds.
i think rhodes must absolutely nail alvarez with his best shots. from those awkward angles. if he can maintain the quality punching, and do damage, then hopefully it'll work out for him.
after kirkland and angulo have pretty much disappeared - for various reasons - it would be ironic if a british fighter (rhodes) ended up winning a title at 154 pounds.
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Anyone know what time this is expected to start ?
Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
Is this fight on sky live or just in the morning. Just thought id seen it advertised live
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Rocky Balboa
- Heavyweight
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Re: Rhodes-Canelo build up
I have taken 6/1 for Rhodes to Win & done a Separate bet for him to Win by TKO/KO/DQ, 9/1!johnswan1 wrote:Rhodes now best priced 6/1 to pull off the upset. I think he is overpriced and represents good value!
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