DeGale on Defeat

[Gray-Fox]

Degale lost fair and square.

[jamesmcdonnell]

He needs to get over himself, and make sure that the next time he's in a close fight he works hard every minute of every round.

Hopefully in time he'll put it behind him and just take it on board.

[hurlock]

the guy is a winner & you will respect him in years to come. if he was oh well sh1t old me, he wouldnt be were he is today.

[yiddo14]

Cleverly is hardly great sparring if you are preparing for Groves. Didn't they only do half a dozen rounds together?
The two seemed very friendly when on ringside too saying how great the other was and how they didn't go full on etc.

Now compare that Groves seeking out Dirrell who probably had never heard of him, in an American gym too. Groves constant black eyes and markings showed how easy Andre took their sessions! He went in fully prepared and battle hardened. Top marks. I will always cheer the fighter who seemingly goes that extra yard in order to give himself every chance.

[NazNaci1]

James needs to buck up his ideas and accept he was out-witted, one point or not. It was a close fight which could have gone either way.

It went to Groves, now he has to move on and stfu.

And another thing he keeps going on about is, as a challenger, Groves needed to take it off him, the Champion. The clown doesn't realise that they were both champions, at the time.

Talented but deluded and guaranteed to fail, im afraid :(

Come on, Bengu.

He wasn't outwitted, and how can you say he was but then say it could have gone either way?

Where is he meant to fail? How fair do you think he'll go before he fails?

Out-witted, in the sense that he plodded after Groves round after round, missed alot and obviously was banking on Groves coming at him.

Despite all of that, it was a close fight and could have gone either way, not because Degale or Groves were dominant but because the action was scarce, so it was down to what you preferred.

The guy cannot accept he lost, he wasnt robbed, he lost a close fight, simple as. And because he can't admit it to himself, he will struggle to rectify all the things that are wrong with him. Booth and Groves, on ringside explained exactly why Degale lost that fight.

To be honest, if Groves, a very decent prospect can beat him (or atleast match him) and outbox him, how far do you think he will go? He got a huge signing on fee for turning pro, his ego has been constantly fed and his opponents (until Groves) had been tailored made for him.

The only reason they took the fight with Groves is because they figured Groves would come at him and if he didnt, there was no way he could out box him.

I am pretty sure Groves goes further than him, its not all about talent. Talent takes you some of the way, not all.

[Crease]

DeGale has to learn to accept that he lost the fight. Only when he can admit that he lost, then he might get over himself and stop believing his own hype.
He isn't the next Chris Eubank, he really needs to wake up and get a new trainer.

If I were him and was serious on becoming world champion, I would beg Freddie Roach to take me under his wing.

[grannyman]

Getting a bit sick of him saying how he hurt Groves in the ninth.

Booth mentioned on ringside that Degale stood on his foot and went in with his head, so I went back and slowed it down and Booth was bang on the money with that one.

Not the only time his head went in that night either.

[NazNaci1]

Yup, in the ninth, he stood on his foot and headbutted him, unintentional, mind

You could see George stumble back but his legs were still strong and he quickly regained his balance.

[Terrrrry]

Sour grapes.

[mickey1975]

I didnt think it was a bad interview. The guy is obviously gutted, and i bet he felt even worse watching it back. With hindsight, all that "meet me in the centre of the ring" stuff backfired, and was always going to with Booth around. Did they not see Haye-Valuev? Also, Booth certainly is not in denial and is well aware Groves can be hurt. There was no way he was going to rush in. He got outwitted, i personally think DeGale won but tactically it was knockout victory for the Groves team.

[JamesH]

I didnt think it was a bad interview. The guy is obviously gutted, and i bet he felt even worse watching it back. With hindsight, all that "meet me in the centre of the ring" stuff backfired, and was always going to with Booth around. Did they not see Haye-Valuev? Also, Booth certainly is not in denial and is well aware Groves can be hurt. There was no way he was going to rush in. He got outwitted, i personally think DeGale won but tactically it was knockout victory for the Groves team.

Agree with this post.

Also, I don't think De Gale should get too much grief over not giving Groves credit for the win, Groves has been saying it was 'easy' to beat De Gale and never admitted it was close. They just don't like each other. I thought his regret over the verbals was genuine and the fact he is pointing out what Groves was saying to him (i.e. horseface) indicates that he knows he got the build up to the fight wrong as is trying to explain his part of it.

[johnnygreaves]

I know why James is upset. I myself have won all my 68 fights. Just the judges read the wrong fight 65 times. I will learn from my mistakes. The butere is Greaves

[Crazyboy]

gobbles wrote:
rhino222 wrote:
errrrrrrrrrrr....deluded!!



Why is he deluded? He sounds honest and talks in depth about the fight, what went wrong and the fact that he thought he won a fight that he lost on the judges' cards by the narrowest margin possible.


he refuses to offer groves the decency of congratulations, and as for degale offering a rematch if he had won...what a load of tosh. w@rren would have given us the 'onwards and upwards' line.

This. couldn't have said it better. Especially the onwards and upwards line, Degale can say all he likes about how he would definately give a rematch but the truth of it is he wouldn't have even thought twice about George Groves again if he had won.

[Datsue]

I know why James is upset. I myself have won all my 68 fights. Just the judges read the wrong fight 65 times. I will learn from my mistakes. The butere is Greaves

[Counter-puncher]

I know why James is upset. I myself have won all my 68 fights. Just the judges read the wrong fight 65 times. I will learn from my mistakes. The butere is Greaves

top man, Johnny

[WestEndRiot]

I've been a big Groves fan for a long time and despite wanting to see him do a number on DeGale, i always thought i'd be supporting DeGale after this fight as i do with the majority of British fighters. But this interview has made me realise what a complete and utter c**t he is.

For a start it shows this persona of being the bad guy wasn't just to try and sell the fight, that's just the way he is.

Secondly, he didn't even have the decency to congratulate Groves. Despite what he feels about the judges decision, even he must know deep down that it was fairly close but he won't even acknowledge that GG gave him a good fight.

Finally, and this is the one that really annoyed me, this quote at the end of the interview about being world champion, "If I am and Georgie Groves comes knocking on my door? Sorry... you've had your chance. That door ain't opening."

This coming after Warren demanded the BBB of C order an immediate rematch for no reason whatsoever. What does this even mean? Yeah Groves has had his chance, and he's taken it twice. Idiot.

No doubt he will get a World title shot, probably before GG does, beating a blown up light middle for a vacant title, but when he does, i certainly won't be cheering him on.

[jamesmcdonnell]

In the words of the late great Ronnie Barker in porridge.

"Show me a man who can laugh at defeat, and I'll show you a jamaican chiropodist with a sense of humour."

[57philbox]

I know why James is upset. I myself have won all my 68 fights. Just the judges read the wrong fight 65 times. I will learn from my mistakes. The butere is Greaves

i thought ali wyatt was robbed!!!

[apophenic]

I didnt think it was a bad interview. The guy is obviously gutted, and i bet he felt even worse watching it back. With hindsight, all that "meet me in the centre of the ring" stuff backfired, and was always going to with Booth around. Did they not see Haye-Valuev? Also, Booth certainly is not in denial and is well aware Groves can be hurt. There was no way he was going to rush in. He got outwitted, i personally think DeGale won but tactically it was knockout victory for the Groves team.

Agree with this post.

Also, I don't think De Gale should get too much grief over not giving Groves credit for the win, Groves has been saying it was 'easy' to beat De Gale and never admitted it was close. They just don't like each other. I thought his regret over the verbals was genuine and the fact he is pointing out what Groves was saying to him (i.e. horseface) indicates that he knows he got the build up to the fight wrong as is trying to explain his part of it.

stop defending mr ed.

groves said horseface once or twice....defail said ugly kid every single time he was interviewed..

[JamesH]

I didnt think it was a bad interview. The guy is obviously gutted, and i bet he felt even worse watching it back. With hindsight, all that "meet me in the centre of the ring" stuff backfired, and was always going to with Booth around. Did they not see Haye-Valuev? Also, Booth certainly is not in denial and is well aware Groves can be hurt. There was no way he was going to rush in. He got outwitted, i personally think DeGale won but tactically it was knockout victory for the Groves team.

Agree with this post.

Also, I don't think De Gale should get too much grief over not giving Groves credit for the win, Groves has been saying it was 'easy' to beat De Gale and never admitted it was close. They just don't like each other. I thought his regret over the verbals was genuine and the fact he is pointing out what Groves was saying to him (i.e. horseface) indicates that he knows he got the build up to the fight wrong as is trying to explain his part of it.

stop defending mr ed.

groves said horseface once or twice....defail said ugly kid every single time he was interviewed..

mr ed? Not sure what you mean.

I know this would be something of a novelty for you, but consider reading posts properly before you respond to them. I simply stated that De Gale brought up 'horseface' to defend/explain his own comments. At no point did I defend De Gale saying anything, nor did I suggest the insults were 50-50 in frequency. You're making yourself look foolish (again).

[mickey1975]

Agree with this post.

Also, I don't think De Gale should get too much grief over not giving Groves credit for the win, Groves has been saying it was 'easy' to beat De Gale and never admitted it was close. They just don't like each other. I thought his regret over the verbals was genuine and the fact he is pointing out what Groves was saying to him (i.e. horseface) indicates that he knows he got the build up to the fight wrong as is trying to explain his part of it.

stop defending mr ed.

groves said horseface once or twice....defail said ugly kid every single time he was interviewed..

mr ed? Not sure what you mean.

I know this would be something of a novelty for you, but consider reading posts properly before you respond to them. I simply stated that De Gale brought up 'horseface' to defend/explain his own comments. At no point did I defend De Gale saying anything, nor did I suggest the insults were 50-50 in frequency. You're making yourself look foolish (again).

Mr Ed was a talking horse on a t.v show of that name a long,long time ago.

[Captain Hook]

No class.

Groves won the fight, end of story.

If DeGale was a little more humble then people might get behind him; sadly not.

And I can't believe he thought he'd get the decision by 3/4 rounds, and that "Jim's brother is a ref" and text that he'd won it. Give me a break.

[Captain Hook]

PS He should have had at least a point off for fouls....

[Londonirish]

No class.

Groves won the fight, end of story.

If DeGale was a little more humble then people might get behind him; sadly not.

And I can't believe he thought he'd get the decision by 3/4 rounds, and that "Jim's brother is a ref" and text that he'd won it. Give me a break.

X2

[Camcas]

Think he was honest and truthful in the interview, people just seem to dislike him now and can't get over that build up