Igor Visotsky's amateur record

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 03 Jul 2005, 00:45

Hi.
You can see a first version of Igor Visotsky's amateur record in http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/visotsky.html
I hope some contribuitions for improve it, but it's very incomplete.
Bye,
Pedro

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 03 Jul 2005, 07:36

Great work

Didn't realise he had beat Tony Tubbs and lost to Greg Page.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 03 Jul 2005, 07:49

I wonder if Visotsky is one of those guys whose fame is based more on their beating a particular opponent rather than any substantive success in major competition? In Igor's case of course I am referring to the two wins against Teofilo Stevenson in his Olympic prime. Saying that though had Visotsky fought in a more recent era of amateur competition perhaps the introduction of headguards would have helped with his cuts problems that are mentioned in Pedro's profile.

Good bit of research by the way.

pound per pound · Post by **pound per pound** » 05 Jul 2005, 20:32

Visotsky was a real balls to the wall fighter. He could deliver a knock out blow with either hand from just about every conceivable angle and distance. His record here is incomplete. Vistosky won over 100 matches.

Amateur boxing in the 1970 resembled professional heavyweight boxing. There was no head gear. Today the amateur boxing is mostly a game of tag.

To win a tournament, one had to win a series of 3-5 fights in a row, with 2-3 days rest between each fight. If you had a minor injury, you were stuck with it for the tournament. Vistosky's achilles heal was cuts. Once he got cut, he had to alter the way he would fight to prevent a cuts stoppage.

Vistosky’s prime years went quickly, but when he was at his peak, he was the best amateur fighter in the world.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 06 Jul 2005, 01:33

pound per pound wrote:Vistosky’s prime years went quickly, but when he was at his peak, he was the best amateur fighter in the world.

I'd like to have seen this Visotsky. But how can you rate him as the best in the world? He never went to the Olympics and lost in the first bout in the World Championships. Stevenson won both - three times each.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Jul 2005, 08:01

locoxelbox wrote:
pound per pound wrote:Vistosky’s prime years went quickly, but when he was at his peak, he was the best amateur fighter in the world.
I'd like to have seen this Visotsky. But how can you rate him as the best in the world? He never went to the Olympics and lost in the first bout in the World Championships. Stevenson won both - three times each.

I understand Russia didn't put him on their Olympic team because he was so cut prone and not because of any lack of ability.

pound per pound · Post by **pound per pound** » 06 Jul 2005, 10:19

locoxelbox wrote:
pound per pound wrote:Vistosky’s prime years went quickly, but when he was at his peak, he was the best amateur fighter in the world.

I'd like to have seen this Visotsky. But how can you rate him as the best in the world? He never went to the Olympics and lost in the first bout in the World Championships. Stevenson won both - three times each.

Locoxelbox,

I have seen Visotsky before. If you ever get the chance, perhaps you too may change perspective.

Stevenson was far and away the champion. Visotsky Ko'd Stevenson once, and defeated him another time in Stevenson's prime.

This is why I feel Visotsky was the best for a short period in time. It's subjective, and only my opinion.

As mentioned before Visotsky had problems with cuts. Cuts take time to heal but Visotsky's aggressive style never really let his cuts heal.

" USSR sent both Viktor Ivanov and Vysotsky to the Montreal Olympics 1976 - Vysotsky would be the choice if USSR drew against Cuba. Feeling was that Vysotsky's eyebrows couldn't hold up for the number of fights required. "

This is why Vistosky never fought in the games. His prime went quickly, and the Soviet's knew their man would lose on cuts, even if he was ahead. Vistosky was not only powerfull, he could take a punch too.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 06 Jul 2005, 10:38

So when did they introduce headguards in international competition, perhaps that would have changed Visotsky's career had it been a little earlier?

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 03 Aug 2005, 14:46

That excuse of not sending their man because he was prone to cuts is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard....by god it's 3x3 mins and according to you guys, he had KO power at all times. Are the Russians that stupid??, I don't think so. Why let him fight at all in that case. He fights and beats Teofilio, but they do not enter him into the most prestigious event in boxing......c'mon guys, that has to sound utterly ridiculous???

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 03 Aug 2005, 14:48

My god, what were the Brits thinking when they sent Cooper in to fight Clay??? Cooper and his bloody mess of a face due to his weak skin....

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 05 Aug 2005, 13:00

walshb wrote:Cooper and his bloody mess of a face due to his weak skin....

TIP · Post by **TIP** » 23 Nov 2005, 20:38

Pound for Pound is absolutly correct on Igor Vysotsky. He was the most talented amateur heavyweight in the last 30 years. His tendency to cut (the worst I ever saw) is what prevented him from winning the gold. Vysotsky was an aggressive southpaw with quickness and power in either hand comparable to Shavers. He intimidated his opponents. I saw the Greg Page fight and if it would have went another round in all likely hood Page would have been ko'd, or had it been a pro fight Vysotsky would have got the decision. Without the weak skin Vysotsky would have been an absolute terror in the amateur or pro ranks. Vysotsky actually sparred an exihibition with Ali once. TIP

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 24 Nov 2005, 08:01

TIP wrote:Vysotsky actually sparred an exihibition with Ali once. TIP

1978 in Russia I believe?

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 24 Nov 2005, 11:11

TIP wrote:Vysotsky actually sparred an exihibition with Ali once.

How did he do?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 24 Nov 2005, 11:15

locoxelbox wrote:
TIP wrote:Vysotsky actually sparred an exihibition with Ali once.
How did he do?

I would like to hear more details about this also. I heard on another Forum that Igor chased Ali all around the ring, I have no idea if this is true.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 25 Nov 2005, 09:10

It could be true. I can imagine Ali, who was used to 15 rounds, not taking it too seriously, while Visotsky going in to prove himself against the greatest.
Strange that this exhibition could be held bearing in mind AIBA:s policy against amateurs and pros working together. One of the reasons the Ali-Stevenson match never could be held.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 26 Nov 2005, 13:26

What was the decision verdict in his fight with Page.Also, what was the decision verdict in his fight with Mitch Green?

Vladimir5555 · Post by **Vladimir5555** » 22 Jan 2014, 18:05

Gorstkov also good Soviet heavyweight.Two time European Gold Medalist

In matches USSR vs USA he defeated Page,Tate and Cummings.

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