Fights That Would Go The Same Way 10 out of 10 Times.

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elmersalsa wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You forgot the incredibly important Pryor/Hearns battle.
That was at the amateurs.

How about Jimmy Young vs George Foreman?
It's good enough for the rest of your posts. No need to stop the madness here.
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Post by Expug »

I dont know guys, there are some picks on here that are a little shaky...
There are some great champs listed as no hopers against certain guys.

I suppose a pick like Joe Louis belts Johnny Paycheck out ten out of ten is a no brainer though, so there is some creativity goin on. Thats cool.
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elmersalsa wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You forgot the incredibly important Pryor/Hearns battle.
That was at the amateurs.

How about Jimmy Young vs George Foreman?
Considering I gave the bout to Young by a point and he was a punch away from a KO loss, I don't see where you are coming with this conclusion . . .
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Idisagree wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Mayorga/Forrest


LOL, it's not a big deal. You should see the response I just finished to the post you deleted. It was seething. Nothing to apologize for and no need to reiterate. I'm quite aware of your stance on Arguello/Pryor.

I hate to do this. But I'm gonna have to say BULLSHIT!

Mayorga landed a fairly lucky punch in my estimation and Forrest fought a poor fight. If all ten are initial fights than he wouldn't have the intimidation factor that slowed his start in the rematch. I might even favor Vernon over 10 fights there.
I think Mayorga awkward style was giving Forrest major problems. Forrest looked to me like he was lost and could not find a way to decipher Mayorga's style in both fights. I think Forrest was the superior fighter but Mayorga's style was his Kryptonite. Also, like you said the fear factor was a major issue for Forrest. He really looked concern on both fights.

He wasn't afraid in the first fight and I actually thought the second fight was a draw. My opinion of mayorga is quite low.

Edit: If anything, Forrest was over confident in the first fight.
Forrest got robbed in the 2nd fight . . complete BS.

And whoever mentioned Hopkins-Taylor should just start watching another sport altogether.
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There are obviously many mathcups where one guy would have gone 10-0. Most fights are mismatches where one guy has little hope.

However, for one guy to go 10-0, he would have to have been a much better fighter and won the fight(s) that they did have easily.

Some of these are hard to say. For example, Ali was better than Liston and beat him easily. However, if they fought 10 times, maybe somehow Liston wins one. There a few others like that.

A few that have been mentioned that I disagree with:
Fullmer/Tiger. They fought 3 times. One fight was a draw, one fight was a close decision win for Tiger. The other Tiger won easily. They didn't even have the same result in the 3 fights that they did have. If they fought 10 times, Fullmer is going to win a couple of times.

Moseley/Wright The 2nd fights was close. I could see Moseley winning 2 or 3 out of 10.

Foreman/Frazier - If they fight 10 times, Frazier is going to nail him at least couple of times with the left hook.

Hearns/Barkley - No way. I think if they fought 10 times, Hearns wins the series. The 2nd fight was close. He had a punchers chance, and probably could have figured out how to outpoint Barkley.

Holyfield/Lewis- Come on.

Pryor/Arguello -Arguello showed he was competitive enough to win 2 or 3 out of 10.
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Ok Alp. Add Hearns Duran to that list, and I'll sign off on that contribution.
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this thread is a load of bullshit, What if Spinks lands a lucky punch? Mike Tyson is spread eagled on the deck thats what
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Hamed Barrera

Mayorga Lewis

De La Hoya Mayorga

(controversial pick)

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Rambo wrote:this thread is a load of bullshit, What if Spinks lands a lucky punch? Mike Tyson is spread eagled on the deck thats what
It's entirely possible, you're quite right, but looking back at Tyson's career, when was he ever sparked out by one punch?

Every time Tyson was beaten, he had the fight beaten out of him, so that suggests that it is unlikely that Spinks could have done him with one punch.
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Syntax Error wrote:
Rambo wrote:this thread is a load of bullshit, What if Spinks lands a lucky punch? Mike Tyson is spread eagled on the deck thats what
It's entirely possible, you're quite right, but looking back at Tyson's career, when was he ever sparked out by one punch?

Every time Tyson was beaten, he had the fight beaten out of him, so that suggests that it is unlikely that Spinks could have done him with one punch.
Yes, the number of times Tyson was sparked by a single punch is in fact equal to the number of heavy weights Spinks knocked out with a single punch.
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Spinks was too afraid to throw a punch.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spinks was too afraid to throw a punch.
That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:
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Syntax Error wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spinks was too afraid to throw a punch.
That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:

I loved Michael and I'm not ashamed to say I championed him a bit for that fight. Then I was watching it Closed Circuit with some buddies and as soon as he walked out I demanded he was getting knocked out in the first round. I've never seen a fighter more terrified and I say that with all due respect to one of the greatest Lt heavyweights of all time.
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BoxBuzz wrote:Ok Alp. Add Hearns Duran to that list, and I'll sign off on that contribution.
Sure. If they fought 10 times, Duran would have won at least once. When will you be able to sign off on this contribution? :D
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Done!


However, I'm thinking they just might split evenly. But for some, the idea of Duran winning even one is too much to fathom.
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Calzaghe vs Jeff Lacy
Antonio Tarver vs Montell Griffin
Bernard Hopkins vs William Joppy
Wladimir Klitschko vs Chris Byrd
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spinks was too afraid to throw a punch.
That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:

I loved Michael and I'm not ashamed to say I championed him a bit for that fight. Then I was watching it Closed Circuit with some buddies and as soon as he walked out I demanded he was getting knocked out in the first round. I've never seen a fighter more terrified and I say that with all due respect to one of the greatest Lt heavyweights of all time.
Until the last of my days, I will contend that Spinks laid down. I see total clarity in his eyes when the count is rendered. Total clarity, and total fear. Pretending to fall into the ropes was farcical.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Syntax Error wrote: That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:

I loved Michael and I'm not ashamed to say I championed him a bit for that fight. Then I was watching it Closed Circuit with some buddies and as soon as he walked out I demanded he was getting knocked out in the first round. I've never seen a fighter more terrified and I say that with all due respect to one of the greatest Lt heavyweights of all time.
Until the last of my days, I will contend that Spinks laid down. I see total clarity in his eyes when the count is rendered. Total clarity, and total fear. Pretending to fall into the ropes was farcical.
Of course I'm pretty sure Buzz, a poster of perpetual clarity, has Spinks as a slight favorite in a rematch.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Spinks was too afraid to throw a punch.
That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:

I loved Michael and I'm not ashamed to say I championed him a bit for that fight. Then I was watching it Closed Circuit with some buddies and as soon as he walked out I demanded he was getting knocked out in the first round. I've never seen a fighter more terrified and I say that with all due respect to one of the greatest Lt heavyweights of all time.
Spinks always looked scared before fights. Usually that look was not indicative as to how he would fight once the bell rang but against Tyson he also fought scared.
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hhaehre wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Syntax Error wrote: That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:

I loved Michael and I'm not ashamed to say I championed him a bit for that fight. Then I was watching it Closed Circuit with some buddies and as soon as he walked out I demanded he was getting knocked out in the first round. I've never seen a fighter more terrified and I say that with all due respect to one of the greatest Lt heavyweights of all time.
Spinks always looked scared before fights. Usually that look was not indicative as to how he would fight once the bell rang but against Tyson he also fought scared.
He never looked like that.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Syntax Error wrote: That's true. :P

That's the reason why I think it is actually the best shout for this thread. :lol:

I loved Michael and I'm not ashamed to say I championed him a bit for that fight. Then I was watching it Closed Circuit with some buddies and as soon as he walked out I demanded he was getting knocked out in the first round. I've never seen a fighter more terrified and I say that with all due respect to one of the greatest Lt heavyweights of all time.
Until the last of my days, I will contend that Spinks laid down. I see total clarity in his eyes when the count is rendered. Total clarity, and total fear. Pretending to fall into the ropes was farcical.
You could be right.

Did Tyson's right hand for the KO even land fully?

It looked like more of a glancing blow to me.
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This is an interesting topic. And opinions on this are far-reaching. I don't think that there would be many 10 wins over an opponent, especially not amongst the greatest Heavyweightss.

Foreman vs Frazier.
Yes Imaybe could see this as Foreman winning every time.

Ali vs Liston
Nope, this is different... Liston had the power to trouble Ali, and I can't see Ali beating him 10 out of 10.
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..archie moore vs. bobo olson.....at the time this match was made there were actually more than a few who gave olson a chance,and even had him as the favorite. bobo was going good as a middleweight champion then . i said archie would knock him out in the first real exchange and that is exactly what happened.olson was never the same after that one, for a variety of reasons. i've been tempted to do a thread on him, as i saw him so often on tv and read a lot about him. when my things-to-do list gets anywhere near workable i may get to it, if anyone is interested.
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I'm always interested in stuff from that era. :TU:
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Loooooooooooooooooooooooottttta bullshit in this thread.
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