Gene Tunney vs Floyd Patterson, primes

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Patterson reminds you of the Klitschko brothers?

[The Second God]

Patterson reminds you of the Klitschko brothers?

Not in any meaningful sense. The 'K's' are good against the competition they face. I do not like their style of boxing. I do admire their heart.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Patterson reminds you of the Klitschko brothers?

Not in any meaningful sense. The 'K's' are good against the competition they face. I do not like their style of boxing. I do admire their heart.

Then why did you say they did?

[The Second God]

Patterson reminds you of the Klitschko brothers?

Not in any meaningful sense. The 'K's' are good against the competition they face. I do not like their style of boxing. I do admire their heart.

Then why did you say they did?

I might have been out of my mind. I wouldn't say it today. I feel good today.

If I implied or said that it was not my intent. The 'K's are good against those they fight. I'd love to see one of them take on a prime Liston, Williams or Marcianio.

Right now they are fighting mediocre opponents and you do not develop a legacy of greatness doing that. But you do earn lots of money doing that.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Good matchup. Tunney the higly regimented marine. I recall that he trained for one fight by doing his road work behind the city busses. Breathing in the exhaust as a way to harden himself. I'm sure it made sense at the time he did it.

Tunney had the smarts and skills to defeat a Dempsey who may have been in a disapated state due to lack of activity.

How he meets a fresh Combination throwing Patterson with the quickest hands ever in the heavyweight division remains to be seen.

Patterson went down a lot. I do not recall him going down and not getting up. (my memory may be faulty) He had the heart of a true champion.

Did Tunney encounter foes with the ability to hurt him like Patterson did. Liston was in his prime when he destroyed Patterson. However demnpsey was not in his prime when he was beat by Tunney.

So comparing the two you need to take the demographics and history of not only the participants, but of those they fought and when they fought them in their carreer. I wonder if the Dempsey that decimated Jefferies would have lost to Tunney. I doubt it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OeeCfbahwQ

Patterson was down for the count twice against Liston, since you said you couldnt recall him ever staying down. Not that Tunney could KO Patterson, but speaking of Tunney, inactivity was only an issue for Dempsey once. Though not the full fighter he had been, he was a well-prepped man second-go round.

Yeah, but even after being knocked out, patterson did not want to stay down. I think that is what I meant. Sure liston stopped him twice in the first round.. It was one of those two fights that got me interested in the sport.

Look at what Ali did to him. I didn't like the way he hurt him, I thought it was cruel. None the less Patterson did not quit. But Ali was virtually unbeatable at that time even though past his prime.

Patterson was a class act, Tunney was a solid well trained fighter, he reminds me of the 'K' brothers today due to his highly structured and well disciplined performances in the ring.

I hear you. There was no quit in Patterson as a fighter.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Not in any meaningful sense. The 'K's' are good against the competition they face. I do not like their style of boxing. I do admire their heart.

Then why did you say they did?

I might have been out of my mind. I wouldn't say it today. I feel good today.

If I implied or said that it was not my intent. The 'K's are good against those they fight. I'd love to see one of them take on a prime Liston, Williams or Marcianio.

Right now they are fighting mediocre opponents and you do not develop a legacy of greatness doing that. But you do earn lots of money doing that.

I'm glad you're feeling better.

FYI, you said it today. Just a couple posts ago. But if you didn't mean it that's good enough for me.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I was sure from the context he was saying Tunney reminded him of the K-bros? Well-prepped & methodical?

I dunno. Guess not.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I was sure from the context he was saying Tunney reminded him of the K-bros? Well-prepped & methodical?

I dunno. Guess not.

The comma's indicated he was talking about Patterson. Either way I don't see the resemblance. Particularly with Floyd though.

[The Second God]

I was sure from the context he was saying Tunney reminded him of the K-bros? Well-prepped & methodical?

I dunno. Guess not.

Yes that is it. I didn't recall saying what was attributed to me, perhaps I said it. the 'K's show the traditional signs of trainng from that part of the world. American training does not produce fighters with those styles. We have another way of going about it. That's what I have noticed.

[Goodnight, Irene]

You just conceded to Saad, though, you were talking about Patterson?

[The Second God]

You just conceded to Saad, though, you were talking about Patterson?

I didn't think I was doing anything but having a conversation.

Apparently others have felt I was delivering testimony under oath.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

No, I just responded to what you said and now you're having a debate with yourself over whether you actually said it or not. Why don't you just read your own post at the top of the page? Or you can just move on to your next rambling statement. Either way works, it isn't a big deal. Not to mention you've already disagreed with yourself and set the record straight.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Im officially perplexed.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Im officially perplexed.

I believe that is the intention.

[Goodnight, Irene]

No, I just responded to what you said and now you're having a debate with yourself over whether you actually said it or not. Why don't you just read your own post at the top of the page? Or you can just move on to your next rambling statement. Either way works, it isn't a big deal. Not to mention you've already disagreed with yourself and set the record straight.

[The Second God]

No, I just responded to what you said and now you're having a debate with yourself over whether you actually said it or not. Why don't you just read your own post at the top of the page? Or you can just move on to your next rambling statement. Either way works, it isn't a big deal. Not to mention you've already disagreed with yourself and set the record straight.

Whe one is a fool he does things like that.

[raylawpc]

Good matchup. Tunney the higly regimented marine. I recall that he trained for one fight by doing his road work behind the city busses. Breathing in the exhaust as a way to harden himself. I'm sure it made sense at the time he did it.

Tunney had the smarts and skills to defeat a Dempsey who may have been in a disapated state due to lack of activity.

How he meets a fresh Combination throwing Patterson with the quickest hands ever in the heavyweight division remains to be seen.

Patterson went down a lot. I do not recall him going down and not getting up. (my memory may be faulty) He had the heart of a true champion.

Did Tunney encounter foes with the ability to hurt him like Patterson did. Liston was in his prime when he destroyed Patterson. However demnpsey was not in his prime when he was beat by Tunney.

So comparing the two you need to take the demographics and history of not only the participants, but of those they fought and when they fought them in their carreer. I wonder if the Dempsey that decimated Jefferies would have lost to Tunney. I doubt it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OeeCfbahwQ

Patterson was down for the count twice against Liston, since you said you couldnt recall him ever staying down. Not that Tunney could KO Patterson, but speaking of Tunney, inactivity was only an issue for Dempsey once. Though not the full fighter he had been, he was a well-prepped man second-go round.

And I don't recall Dempsey ever decimating Jefferies or Jeffries, for that matter . . .

[Goodnight, Irene]

I saw that but just thought it was a mistake in passing. Perhaps not so passing, in hindsight, LOL.

[The Second God]

Good matchup. Tunney the higly regimented marine. I recall that he trained for one fight by doing his road work behind the city busses. Breathing in the exhaust as a way to harden himself. I'm sure it made sense at the time he did it.

Tunney had the smarts and skills to defeat a Dempsey who may have been in a disapated state due to lack of activity.

How he meets a fresh Combination throwing Patterson with the quickest hands ever in the heavyweight division remains to be seen.

Patterson went down a lot. I do not recall him going down and not getting up. (my memory may be faulty) He had the heart of a true champion.

Did Tunney encounter foes with the ability to hurt him like Patterson did. Liston was in his prime when he destroyed Patterson. However demnpsey was not in his prime when he was beat by Tunney.

So comparing the two you need to take the demographics and history of not only the participants, but of those they fought and when they fought them in their carreer. I wonder if the Dempsey that decimated Jefferies would have lost to Tunney. I doubt it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OeeCfbahwQ

Patterson was down for the count twice against Liston, since you said you couldnt recall him ever staying down. Not that Tunney could KO Patterson, but speaking of Tunney, inactivity was only an issue for Dempsey once. Though not the full fighter he had been, he was a well-prepped man second-go round.

And I don't recall Dempsey ever decimating Jefferies or Jeffries, for that matter . . .

Was it Jess Willard? forgive me.

[jaclem2]

..this second god fellow has been here only a day and already he can't remember what he has said in posts that are no more than a few hours old. i think we have an interesting addition to our forum and i am eager to watch it unfold in future posts.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Reminds me of Evander from Other Sports so far.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He is a welcome addition. I have a guy in CS who can't even form a sentence proclaiming he is a neurosurgeon that would like to help my father while pming me that he is a karate black belt along with his address so we can fist fight.

[Goodnight, Irene]

He is a welcome addition. I have a guy in CS who can't even form a sentence proclaiming he is a neurosurgeon that would like to help my father while pming me that he is a karate black belt along with his address so we can fist fight.

What...in God's name...!? Where else could such a creature survive, much less thrive, than in the cesspool of CS?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He is a welcome addition. I have a guy in CS who can't even form a sentence proclaiming he is a neurosurgeon that would like to help my father while pming me that he is a karate black belt along with his address so we can fist fight.

What...in God's name...!? Where else could such a creature survive, much less thrive, than in the cesspool of CS?

I've gotten about 30 pm's now. You can't even imagine them.

Saad, Whya the insults? I want to help you . Me work on brains, they are very fragile. Your good people. I killed my mother and then you LAUGH! ARRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a balck belt in karate, wahhaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh. Come meet me in Quebec like you a man.

One of the latest says he will hound me for the rest of my days posting here until i apologize. For what? I can't be sure.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Takes all kinds, this world of ours