Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

Thoughts on Class & Charactor . . .

In a perfect world, Chris Arreola and David Haye would have been born without a voice.
Such a reality would have served them as an asset, not a disability.
We know that Arreola cannot back up his talk with action. He's too lazy & too stupid.
Tonight we'll see what David Haye brings into the ring to support his garbage mouth.

[Panzerfaust]

I believe Klitchko will be simply to good for Haye who yet hasent done anythig yet at HW.. thuss he barely beat Valuev(watching the fight live i felt Valuev won, though i havent watched it again and tried to score it for obvious reasons).
He's no new Tyson like some people believe(not aimed at anyone in particular, just alot of people who thinks Haye is the next greeat thing, I dont .
whenever Haye gets inside the jab he will be tied up and Wladimir will lean on him until Haye starts backing up and then take him apart from distance.

My prediction anyways

I like Wlad more than Haye simply because he is more of a gentleman (not a big trash talker which turns me of )

[raylawpc]

I like Wlad more than Haye simply because he is more of a gentleman (not a big trash talker which turns me of )

What's not to like, right? Intelligent (earned doctorate), humble, always goes in the ring in shape and gives his best effort, genial with his fans, and a true gentleman. . .

[kikibalt]

I like Wlad more than Haye simply because he is more of a gentleman (not a big trash talker which turns me off )

I'm with you Ram.....

[kikibalt]

I like Wlad more than Haye simply because he is more of a gentleman (not a big trash talker which turns me of )

What's not to like, right? Intelligent (earned doctorate), humble, always goes in the ring in shape and gives his best effort, genial with his fans, and a true gentleman. . .

[Panzerfaust]

However when Adamek fights big brother Vitali ill be pulling for the polack The best match in the hw division would be Adamek vs Haye though i think

[Rick Farris]

I believe Klitchko will be simply to good for Haye who yet hasent done anythig yet at HW.. thuss he barely beat Valuev(watching the fight live i felt Valuev won, though i havent watched it again and tried to score it for obvious reasons).
He's no new Tyson like some people believe(not aimed at anyone in particular, just alot of people who thinks Haye is the next greeat thing, I dont .
whenever Haye gets inside the jab he will be tied up and Wladimir will lean on him until Haye starts backing up and then take him apart from distance.

My prediction anyways

I like Wlad more than Haye simply because he is more of a gentleman (not a big trash talker which turns me of )

You make a great point, Remy. I dislike the K brothers as boxers, but they are gentlemen and have class.
And Haye nas never proven himself against a good fighter, yet he mouths off.
A guy like Haye would not be good for heavyweight boxing, guys like him are the problem, he's Great Britain's version of Chris Arreola.
Something tells me that Haye is going to win today, just a feeling. When I feel this way, I'm almost always wrong.

[Rick Farris]

I like Wlad more than Haye simply because he is more of a gentleman (not a big trash talker which turns me of )

What's not to like, right? Intelligent (earned doctorate), humble, always goes in the ring in shape and gives his best effort, genial with his fans, and a true gentleman. . .

What's not to like? He's boring and has a heart the size of a pea. I appreciate a gentleman, in the ring I prefer a fighter.

[kikibalt]

Watching a classic on TCM, "Rebel Without A Cause", do I keep watching it or watch a boring fight??

[Rick Farris]

I just saw David Haye interviewed for the first time. He and Vlad faced off with Max Kellerman.
It's obvious that David Haye has the mind of a child. He would futher embarrass the heavyweight division if he wins tonight.
After such a class act and legit champ in Lennox Lewis, a guy like Haye does not belong.
This embarrassment might win? I'd rather be strangled by the boring K boys a little longer.
I think Haye can upset this guy? We'll see.

[Rick Farris]

Watching a classic on TCM, "Rebel Without A Cause", do I keep watching it or watch a boring fight??

My grandfather lit that. I was just a year or two old at the time, but I grew up listening to how he lit the night exteriors at the Observatory, how James Dean pulled his Porshe into Waner Bros. on a Friday afternoon on his way up north. That's a Warner Bros. Classic!!
I'm going to watch the fight, I saw Rebel more times than you could imagine. I have a great photo (my mother does) of my grandfather with a young Natalie Wood sitting on his lap, with Jim Backus and Sal Mineo standing beside. The film was very slow then, the early days of color,lots of light was needed for exposure. I was taught that it was filmed in 3-Strip Technicolor, using cameras so big that they required four grips to mount it on a crane or Dolly. Sorry guys. Rambling . . .

[Panzerfaust]

Watching a classic on TCM, "Rebel Without A Cause", do I keep watching it or watch a boring fight??

I dont think the TCM option is a bad one

[Panzerfaust]

Haye not only disrespects the Klits, he now disrespects Lewis as well , keeping him waiting outside his dressingroom (Lewis was supposed to walk him to the ring)

[Rick Farris]

Considering who is fighting, I don't know why this match interests me so. I guess I expect the unexpected?

[Rick Farris]

"Hey ref, watch the Brillo!" . . . -Teddy Bentham on head butts, in the corner of Jerry Quarry vs. Joe Frazier-I

[raylawpc]

One guy looked scared, and the other guy looked glad he was.

[Panzerfaust]

One guy looked scared, and the other guy looked glad he was.

The shortest and most precise breakdown of the fight i think one cn find on the internet

[kikibalt]

Watching a classic on TCM, "Rebel Without A Cause", do I keep watching it or watch a boring fight??

I should have stay with the movie. For once Li'l Klit looked like he wanted to fight, sort of anyway, and Haye just wanted to be around for the 12th round....

[Rick Farris]

Watching a classic on TCM, "Rebel Without A Cause", do I keep watching it or watch a boring fight??

I should have stay with the movie. For once Li'l Klit looked like he wanted to fight, sort of anyway, and Haye just wanted to be around for the 12th round....

I think Haye fought a smart fight, but didn't put enough into the last three rounds.
I think Haye beats him if they fight again, and he beats big brother, as well.
Vlad was as good as his oversized body could be.
The well conditioned gentleman is a bum. And he's grateful that 15 rounders are a thing of the past.
The best heavyweight in the world today is a trash talking Brit, and Eastern European boxers best avoid Haye. He is their poison.
Today Haye learned how to beat the big bums. He is smarter than I thought, and sports a pair of balls. My opinion, of course.

[Rick Farris]

However when Adamek fights big brother Vitali ill be pulling for the polack The best match in the hw division would be Adamek vs Haye though i think

It won't take a Joe Louis to defeat Vitali, just a willing opponent with moderate skills.
You can be the guy that puts a little spice into Euro-boxing, in fact, I believe you are the guy that will.
You have a lot of friends on the West Coast. If you can take some of our memories and transform them into skilled boxers, I think we'll all help you.
The body punching thing for the Olympics is big. Study the best body punchers in the world in L.A. The great Mexicans.
You have a World Champ that holds the consecutive KO record volunteering to teach you how to throw the gancho to the liver.
Videos validate that "El Gato" was a master of that deadly blow. He knew how to tap the area in one spot, which opened up the true target.
How many amateur fights would that end early? Nobody is used to seeing that, or any body attack. All head shots.
You bring a body game to Europe, you be the guru, but first you gotta learn it. Next year.

[Rick Farris]

Frank, I told Remy about El Gato's title fight with Carmona.
It's not on Youtube. Is there a link that will take him to that fight?
He needs to see it!

[raylawpc]

Watching a classic on TCM, "Rebel Without A Cause", do I keep watching it or watch a boring fight??

I should have stay with the movie. For once Li'l Klit looked like he wanted to fight, sort of anyway, and Haye just wanted to be around for the 12th round....

I think Haye fought a smart fight, but didn't put enough into the last three rounds.
I think Haye beats him if they fight again, and he beats big brother, as well.
Vlad was as good as his oversized body could be.
The well conditioned gentleman is a bum. And he's grateful that 15 rounders are a thing of the past.
The best heavyweight in the world today is a trash talking Brit, and Eastern European boxers best avoid Haye. He is their poison.
Today Haye learned how to beat the big bums. He is smarter than I thought, and sports a pair of balls. My opinion, of course.

Geez, Rick, if I didn't know better, I would swear Wlad and his brother must have stolen your lunch money every morning on the way to school. You really seem to dislike those two guys.

[Rick Farris]

I should have stay with the movie. For once Li'l Klit looked like he wanted to fight, sort of anyway, and Haye just wanted to be around for the 12th round....

I think Haye fought a smart fight, but didn't put enough into the last three rounds.
I think Haye beats him if they fight again, and he beats big brother, as well.
Vlad was as good as his oversized body could be.
The well conditioned gentleman is a bum. And he's grateful that 15 rounders are a thing of the past.
The best heavyweight in the world today is a trash talking Brit, and Eastern European boxers best avoid Haye. He is their poison.
Today Haye learned how to beat the big bums. He is smarter than I thought, and sports a pair of balls. My opinion, of course.

Geez, Rick, if I didn't know better, I would swear Wlad and his brother must have stolen your lunch money every morning on the way to school. You really seem to dislike those two guys.

Nobody ever stole my lunch money, Tom.
Was that a problem you relate to?

[raylawpc]

I think Haye fought a smart fight, but didn't put enough into the last three rounds.
I think Haye beats him if they fight again, and he beats big brother, as well.
Vlad was as good as his oversized body could be.
The well conditioned gentleman is a bum. And he's grateful that 15 rounders are a thing of the past.
The best heavyweight in the world today is a trash talking Brit, and Eastern European boxers best avoid Haye. He is their poison.
Today Haye learned how to beat the big bums. He is smarter than I thought, and sports a pair of balls. My opinion, of course.

Geez, Rick, if I didn't know better, I would swear Wlad and his brother must have stolen your lunch money every morning on the way to school. You really seem to dislike those two guys.

Nobody ever stole my lunch money, Tom.
Was that a problem for you as a kid?

Nope.

BTW, I went back in to delete my previous message after I read some of your earlier comments. I see why you dislike the Klitschko brothers, and intended to delete it, but I was too late.

[CNorkusJr]

I went to the Yankee vs Mets game today at Mets Stadium. Yanks win. Thats sucks.
I had to DVR the fight and was too tired when I came home to watch tonite. Try to sneak it in Sunday Morning before going to cousins BBQ/ 16th Bday for daughter.

I couldnt exactly tell by your posts who exactly won.

If Haye put in 3 last good rds. might have got him or Todays best Hvywt is a Brit.

Thats good-as it will be a surprise to me. I hope it was a clean good fight with Vlad putting in a better effort than I seen from him before.
Either way- The Adamek vs Klits fight is more interest to me.

Either way-it sounds like this Haye / Klits fight was a great idea not having on PPV.
The camps know it would be a tough sell,and realize their products are not the best on the market.

Talk to you tommorrow night.