David Haye what next ???

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David Haye what next ???

Post by wesley05 »

Dose anyone really think David will retire ? Did anyone see retirement in his eyes...... Me neither. Ok he got it badly wrong tonight but he,s ot a top team behind him and he can come back from this . If he retires this is a massive dint for haymaker and a bigger blow for British boxing.
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wesley05 wrote:Ok he got it badly wrong tonight but he,s ot a top team behind him and he can come back from this.
I think that you are being too overl-critical of Haye tonight. Tonight's fight if anything highlighted the fact that Wlad can be exposed and that the refs don't mind him leaning on his opoonents.

As for Haye? I take it that the Vitali fight is off-the-cards now... Maybe a showdown wiht the winner of Chisora/Fury?

Or maybe a home finale against Chagaev or Arreola.
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I think he will call it quits now.
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Post by Karl Jade »

Retire. He's done.
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Post by tonyevs »

More excuses and more hype.

I think he hangs about untill Vitali retires in the next year or so ... then fights for the vacant title against one of the other poor contenders out there ... maybe Chisora will get the chance.
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Crease wrote:
wesley05 wrote:Ok he got it badly wrong tonight but he,s ot a top team behind him and he can come back from this.
I think that you are being too overl-critical of Haye tonight. Tonight's fight if anything highlighted the fact that Wlad can be exposed and that the refs don't mind him leaning on his opoonents.

As for Haye? I take it that the Vitali fight is off-the-cards now... Maybe a showdown wiht the winner of Chisora/Fury?

Or maybe a home finale against Chagaev or Arreola.
first he will be saying bye bye to all of his celebrity mates and hangers on who have been giving him a false sense of status. he then needs to quit this i'm quitting in october bullsheet - like we give a fck - fcking quit then u mug, like u did vs wlad. he talked a lot of smack and couldnt follow it up, thats a major league embarrassment for anybody and a proper piss take. i let my little lad stay up to watch that, prob put him off boxing for life - (like when he was put off sheffield united for life after i took him to his first away match and we dint have 1 shot on target. )

when u look at it in both of his biggest fights he has fought like a btch after talking a load of smack - vs valuev and now wlad..he needs to sht the fck up and either walk the walk of fckoff to bit parts on Holby City..
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to be honest right now i dont care.
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Crease wrote:
wesley05 wrote:Ok he got it badly wrong tonight but he,s ot a top team behind him and he can come back from this.

I think that you are being too overl-critical of Haye tonight. Tonight's fight if anything highlighted the fact that Wlad can be exposed and that the refs don't mind him leaning on his opoonents.

As for Haye? I take it that the Vitali fight is off-the-cards now... Maybe a showdown wiht the winner of Chisora/Fury?

Or maybe a home finale against Chagaev or Arreola.


Don't agree with that at all. I wouldn't call winning almost every round 'being exposed', unless you are talking about the punch in the last round but Haye was desperate then. Haye didn't show anything to suggest he'd do any better next time imo.

And Haye's diving and rabbit punching were every bit as bad as Wlad's leaning. I was embarrassed a few times he threw himself on the floor.

He's not in the Klitschko's league and unfortunately he's now proven he isn't, and couldn't even be gracious in defeat. My toe really hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Zhuge »

Crease wrote:
As for Haye? I take it that the Vitali fight is off-the-cards now... Maybe a showdown wiht the winner of Chisora/Fury?

Or maybe a home finale against Chagaev or Arreola.


I would imagine Chisora/Fury would likely end up in line for a shot at Wlad -- especially if it's Chisora.

I don't see the Chagaev fight happening with his health issues.

I would imagine Arreola could happen if Haye wanted it. Arreola is beatable and makes for typically exciting fights, so stepping in against him could probably make up for the poor performance tonight (if he were to win, at least).
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Post by Kronkpride »

James Toney or Kali Meehan for their World Titles....they are every bit as legit as the WBA title was until tonight.
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Post by hurlock »

had haye gone for gold he'd probably got banged out. he survived in there tonight.he will retire unless he gets another mega fight in a return, or a bout with vitali. maybe his toe can justify it. regardless he can walk away with his head held high that he never got stopped
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Post by exittored »

If Vitali and Wlad are out the picture the i could only see a fight with TYSON FURY in October if he beats Chisora later this month as that would be the only fight that could sell some PPV's in Britain.
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hurlock wrote:had haye gone for gold he'd probably got banged out. he survived in there tonight.he will retire unless he gets another mega fight in a return, or a bout with vitali. maybe his toe can justify it. regardless he can walk away with his head held high that he never got stopped
I dont think he can hold his head that high. He dissapointed. Ibragimov didn't get stopped against Wlad and Haye himself has called him a 'bum'. If Wlad wasn't coasting so far ahead on the cards I think he would have got Haye out of there. And his toe was an excuse - even the guys in the studio said they were cringing when they heard it. The injury certainly didn't stop him moving backwards pretty fast!
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I don't care really, he is an overhyped money chaser
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Crease wrote:Tonight's fight if anything highlighted the fact that Wlad can be exposed and that the refs don't mind him leaning on his opoonents.
:o How was Vlad exposed Crease? Haye landed about two big right-hands in 12 rounds, neither of which put him any kind of serious trouble. If anyone was exposed it was Haye, who ate jabs all night and failed to display the 'go out on your shield' mindset that he'd proclaimed before the fight.
As for the ref, Haye was falling to the floor the second Vlad brushed him at times, not to mention the fact he was already unbalanced from lunging in.
And don't even get me started on the little toe...
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mkirkhope wrote:
Crease wrote:
wesley05 wrote:Ok he got it badly wrong tonight but he,s ot a top team behind him and he can come back from this.

I think that you are being too overl-critical of Haye tonight. Tonight's fight if anything highlighted the fact that Wlad can be exposed and that the refs don't mind him leaning on his opoonents.

As for Haye? I take it that the Vitali fight is off-the-cards now... Maybe a showdown wiht the winner of Chisora/Fury?

Or maybe a home finale against Chagaev or Arreola.


Don't agree with that at all. I wouldn't call winning almost every round 'being exposed', unless you are talking about the punch in the last round but Haye was desperate then. Haye didn't show anything to suggest he'd do any better next time imo.

And Haye's diving and rabbit punching were every bit as bad as Wlad's leaning. I was embarrassed a few times he threw himself on the floor.

He's not in the Klitschko's league and unfortunately he's now proven he isn't, and couldn't even be gracious in defeat. My toe really hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!



Klitschko didn't lean on him, Haye dived on the floor
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mkirkhope wrote:
hurlock wrote:had haye gone for gold he'd probably got banged out. he survived in there tonight.he will retire unless he gets another mega fight in a return, or a bout with vitali. maybe his toe can justify it. regardless he can walk away with his head held high that he never got stopped
I dont think he can hold his head that high. He dissapointed. Ibragimov didn't get stopped against Wlad and Haye himself has called him a 'bum'. If Wlad wasn't coasting so far ahead on the cards I think he would have got Haye out of there. And his toe was an excuse - even the guys in the studio said they were cringing when they heard it. The injury certainly didn't stop him moving backwards pretty fast!

his toe did look sore, but he was standing back on it all night :!: haye went up in my estimations for surviving
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Post by History »

He was comfortably beaten tonight.

And what we learnt is that he currently hasn't got what it takes to beat Vladimir Klitschko (some might have known/suspected this already).

However, he was only the seventh man to go the distance with Steelhammer, and never really looked like getting stopped.

This suggests that he still has a future as a world level heavyweight contender, should he want it. There are still fights out there for him - although they'll be less box office/high profile than tonight's was - and perhaps not many of the other current crop of ranked heavyweights would be able to subdue him in such a fashion.

It's just a question of whether he wants to carry on, and he seems convinced that he'll call it a day in October. If he doesn't though, and at only 30, there's no reason why he can't fight for and maybe even win another version of the title somewhere down the line.
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History, you basically took the words out of my mouth.

David Haye is only 30, both the Klitschko´s are 34 and 39 respectively. Go home, rest up, realise your limitations and become a better heavyweight- and more humble in buildup and defeat too. But lets not overreact here.

He still can be the best in that pool of fighters after Vitali and Wlad. So now go back and prove it, knock out some heavyweights and have entertaining fights. Most of the rest of the heavyweights dont have the Klitchsko´s size nor reach.

After doing that, come back and fight Wlad or Vitali when there starting to move out of their prime. Change your tactics and try to take them out of their comfort zone- if you can.

But, talking of retiring before this fight? Clearly shows that boxing is not in Haye´s heart anymore and theres a worrying sign. You dont think or mention when you got such a huge motivation in front of you. To be the best heavyweight in the world and dethrone Wlad and Vitali.
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Post by Horse »

The Dark Destroyer wrote:Fight Vitali. Double your money.
I think that is what he should do.
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TBA wrote:History, you basically took the words out of my mouth.

David Haye is only 30, both the Klitschko´s are 34 and 39 respectively. Go home, rest up, realise your limitations and become a better heavyweight- and more humble in buildup and defeat too. But lets not overreact here.

He still can be the best in that pool of fighters after Vitali and Wlad. So now go back and prove it, knock out some heavyweights and have entertaining fights. Most of the rest of the heavyweights dont have the Klitchsko´s size nor reach.

After doing that, come back and fight Wlad or Vitali when there starting to move out of their prime. Change your tactics and try to take them out of their comfort zone- if you can.

But, talking of retiring before this fight? Clearly shows that boxing is not in Haye´s heart anymore and theres a worrying sign. You dont think or mention when you got such a huge motivation in front of you. To be the best heavyweight in the world and dethrone Wlad and Vitali.
Good post :TU:
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how is it??? what did haye show the last 49 bums didnt??? & against the weaker brother.
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bad mamma jamma wrote:
Crease wrote:
wesley05 wrote:Ok he got it badly wrong tonight but he,s ot a top team behind him and he can come back from this.
I think that you are being too overl-critical of Haye tonight. Tonight's fight if anything highlighted the fact that Wlad can be exposed and that the refs don't mind him leaning on his opoonents.

As for Haye? I take it that the Vitali fight is off-the-cards now... Maybe a showdown wiht the winner of Chisora/Fury?

Or maybe a home finale against Chagaev or Arreola.
first he will be saying bye bye to all of his celebrity mates and hangers on who have been giving him a false sense of status. he then needs to quit this i'm quitting in october bullsheet - like we give a fck - fcking quit then u mug, like u did vs wlad. he talked a lot of smack and couldnt follow it up, thats a major league embarrassment for anybody and a proper piss take. i let my little lad stay up to watch that, prob put him off boxing for life - (like when he was put off sheffield united for life after i took him to his first away match and we dint have 1 shot on target. )

when u look at it in both of his biggest fights he has fought like a btch after talking a load of smack - vs valuev and now wlad..he needs to sht the fck up and either walk the walk of fckoff to bit parts on Holby City..

HIS TOE WAS HURTING, GIVE HIM A BREAK, IT WAS THE LITTLE TOE AND THEY HURT MORE THAN ANY OTHER TOE.
I HOPE DAVID WILL BE OK, ITS A CAREER THREATENING INJURY :wink:
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he got his fackin toe caught in his mouth he may have been alright.
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