Haye and Booths 'tactics'

[Bard of Boxrec]

point taken, but those were some flush shots Haye eventually landed on Audley, and they hurt him, but they just didn't look destructive enough for a guy who got bounced off the floor vs murderous Corrie Sanders BUT was able to keep getting back up and return fire.

This is the key. Wlad KO5 for me, unfortunately.

[ThereByTheGrace]

I have went over and over this in my head and the only logical tactics IMO for Haye to win the fight are:

- Be either 1/2 pace or more than 3 paces away from Klit at all times. This takes away Klits best weapon - his jab and also his ability to build up his right cross.
- Stay low when on the inside. Again - it is more difficult to punch downwards and swaying movements with the head constantly moving a la Mike Tyson late 80s with only rising when going for the head.
- Early rounds will be focused mainly on the body although Haye will have to mix this at times so not to be too predictable. Klits abdominal injury make be a weakness and his high guard is made for Haye to work the body and the inside.
- Like Hatton vs Kostya - Haye has to constantly stay on top of Klit to sway his rhythm and not let him get his jab and into his stride.

All of the above is a big big ask for Haye but its the only chance he has to win and will have to hope that:

- Klitschko's superior strength doesnt get through Hayes guard which will be crouched low and amateur style defence.
- The Ref is happy to "let it go" on the inside -Hence why so many mind games over the appointment of the ref.
- Haye has the gas to pull it off - he keeps saying that he will finish him early but thats all mind games again - he knows he is in for the long haul and a combination of quick, in -out , body first head follows way will work.

Put your money on this going at least 7/8 rounds - first few rounds will be chess like, middle rounds more risk taking by Haye.

Dont be surprised if both cancel each other out.

[Yes We Can]

Hayemaker camp all wearing Blue = run first minute, feint and run 2nd minute, sparodic flurry and run 3rd minute. each round the same.

trying to pinch rounds off Wlad in Germany wont happen.

[mkirkhope]

I thought the interview with Price on the steve bunce podcast was fascinating. Sounds like during their sparring, Haye was circling the ring a lot and there was a lot of feignting etc. Sounds like the gameplan vs valuev again to me. Of course it could all be a bluff, but im not sure why they would waste the 'best sparring' doing tactics that were no use in the fight.

On another note, i thought the story on the same show about the amateur with cancer was inspirational.

[gobbles]

Haye is going the run. All the talk has been a total con.

[nobby_nobbins]

Booth trains his boxers to use raiding tactics. I expect Haye to do a lot of circling and dart in occasionally with a single shot or one-two. If one of those shots hurts Wladimir, Haye will switch to all-out attack. Still going for Haye in 3.

[Deserter]

Good piece by Gareth Davies in today's Telegraph that offers a few clues:

"The Daily Telegraph can reveal that Haye and his trainer, Adam Booth, have studied in painstaking detail two particular Klitschko fights, and have modelled their game plan on them.

The first was Klitschko’s last defeat, to Lamon Brewster in 2004, the second his victory over Eddie Chambers in March last year. Brewster threw himself at Klitschko at every opportunity. Brewster was nearly knocked out early in the fight, but he ducked low, moved from the waist, and eventually dismantled Klitschko in the fifth round after landing winging left hooks.

In studying Chambers, Haye and Booth noted he had successfully weaved and bobbed his way inside and under Klitschko, avoiding his ramrod jab, but without throwing punches.

He froze. Yet he was in a position to attack and topple the champion, who defends a heavyweight crown for the tenth successive time."

I haven't seen the Chambers fight, but is that an accurate assessment of how it played out?

Full article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... world.html

[ThereByTheGrace]

Good piece by Gareth Davies in today's Telegraph that offers a few clues:

"The Daily Telegraph can reveal that Haye and his trainer, Adam Booth, have studied in painstaking detail two particular Klitschko fights, and have modelled their game plan on them.

The first was Klitschko’s last defeat, to Lamon Brewster in 2004, the second his victory over Eddie Chambers in March last year. Brewster threw himself at Klitschko at every opportunity. Brewster was nearly knocked out early in the fight, but he ducked low, moved from the waist, and eventually dismantled Klitschko in the fifth round after landing winging left hooks.

In studying Chambers, Haye and Booth noted he had successfully weaved and bobbed his way inside and under Klitschko, avoiding his ramrod jab, but without throwing punches.

He froze. Yet he was in a position to attack and topple the champion, who defends a heavyweight crown for the tenth successive time."

I haven't seen the Chambers fight, but is that an accurate assessment of how it played out?

Full article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... world.html

I think thats the only thing they can do - as I mentioned above.

[Deserter]

Good piece by Gareth Davies in today's Telegraph that offers a few clues:

"The Daily Telegraph can reveal that Haye and his trainer, Adam Booth, have studied in painstaking detail two particular Klitschko fights, and have modelled their game plan on them.

The first was Klitschko’s last defeat, to Lamon Brewster in 2004, the second his victory over Eddie Chambers in March last year. Brewster threw himself at Klitschko at every opportunity. Brewster was nearly knocked out early in the fight, but he ducked low, moved from the waist, and eventually dismantled Klitschko in the fifth round after landing winging left hooks.

In studying Chambers, Haye and Booth noted he had successfully weaved and bobbed his way inside and under Klitschko, avoiding his ramrod jab, but without throwing punches.

He froze. Yet he was in a position to attack and topple the champion, who defends a heavyweight crown for the tenth successive time."

I haven't seen the Chambers fight, but is that an accurate assessment of how it played out?

Full article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... world.html

I think thats the only thing they can do - as I mentioned above.

[MightyWarrior]

Interesting that Telegraph article, and seeing as he's bothered to mention it, I think there's a good chance that's exactly what Haye intends to do: bob and weave his way in early, and land his lottery punch. Odds wise, that's got to be his best shot at winning this.

Makes sense, as they don't want to be hanging around too long, as the size difference, along with Wlad being a million times better than Valuev, will make it very hazardous for Haye in there.

Trouble is, I can't remember Haye ever employing that tactic before. And while mastermind Booth can plot it all down to a T, the one thing he can't control is the very good chance that the heavy hands of Wlad will clatter Haye as soon as he lands.

[exittored]

I reckon we've already seen a version of the tactics that Haye and Booth will use tonight during the Groves/Degale fight.

Adam Booth's explanation can be seen here at 3.15min of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vkAzowKLOo

Take the jab off Wlad and he won't feel confident to land the Right hand as he isn't an adaptable fighter. Haye is more like RJJ in that he can throw shots from any angles and dosen't need the Jab to set up the rest of his shots.

[dapug]

Haye and Booths 'tactic there was no tactic just earn as much money as they can. They have no love for the game.

[los2]

it had never been seen before.... every time there is a clinch fall over and try and get a point deduction from your opponent....."dark lord" my ar$e

[lefthook82]

I think we will see so much running that Haile Gabrielsalassie would blush

Not quite but close enough

[mkirkhope]

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