Klitschko offers rematch - post fight presser video link

[Spiker]

Where are the mods to delete all these shite 'toe' threads?

Why does it need to be deleted is it hurting your feelings.

Because its utter dross, something that this forum isn't noted for.

The man talked for weeks swore at his opponent and insulted him and acted like a total mouthy bully.
Then loses the fight blames his little toe and we are not allowed to mention it.

[The Lone Wolf]

Why does it need to be deleted is it hurting your feelings.

Because its utter dross, something that this forum isn't noted for.

There was no objection to the vile comments from HAYE against Valuev or the Wlad comments.

Degale was slaughtered and rightly so. Answer the POLL question but please no complaints about a thread you 'read'!

£350K or less I say.

He'd get 350k for having a 3" squared advert on his shorts

So in all honesty this thread and your options on it are utter bollocks.

[The Lone Wolf]

Why does it need to be deleted is it hurting your feelings.

Because its utter dross, something that this forum isn't noted for.

The man talked for weeks swore at his opponent and insulted him and acted like a total mouthy bully.
Then loses the fight blames his little toe and we are not allowed to mention it.

I think you'll find its mentioned in about 20 threads on page 1.

[THE MESSIAH]

Because its utter dross, something that this forum isn't noted for.

There was no objection to the vile comments from HAYE against Valuev or the Wlad comments.

Degale was slaughtered and rightly so. Answer the POLL question but please no complaints about a thread you 'read'!

£350K or less I say.

He'd get 350k for having a 3" squared advert on his shorts

So in all honesty this thread and your options on it are utter bollocks.

But that would not be paid by the Promoter ( K2) - how much would Wlad pay him, that is the question.

[The Lone Wolf]

Over 1 million

End of thread.

[Finn]

there hasnt been many champions who have not blamed their loss on something else - wlad once claimed his vaseline was doped. They wouldnt be champions if they thought people could beat them fairly.

thats a fair point. he did promise us a big ko so when it didnt come off he needed something else. haye done well to take wlad 12.

Manny Pacquaio once blamed a bad performance on the wrong pair of socks.

erm and Antonio Margarito blamed a bad performance on the loss of wraps.

yep tyson blamed the loss against holyfield on being disqualified .

Froch blamed not being in the UK for the loss against kessler.

Hopkins said he was robbed against calzaghe.

Some golfer the other day blamed tv cameras for him not making the cut.

[gobbles]

Haye should get stick. How much abuse did DeGale get? At least he came to fight. And Haye's talk was much worse.

[mkirkhope]

Summary of the press conference from Haye:

The scorecards were not accurate
The ref was rubbish
It's hard to win in Germany
My toe was sore

Excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses.

[WildWaylon]

You can really only say to Haye, be a man and admit you lost to a far better champion. The excuses pissed me off. Haye has started to sound like Audley Harrison. Klitschko fought in his usual way and Haye should have prepared better to beat his style. Haye basically did the same with Klitschko as he did with Valuev, both huge fighters but with totally different styles. Klitschko picks up the points with his jab and hes a lot faster than Valuev so Haye needed to do something different to try to beat him. Haye says he couldnt launch himself properly because of the toe and that to me is rubbish. Haye did launch attacks but Klitschko was quick and defended well. If they do fight again I wouldnt pay £16 to see Haye beaten again. I dont think we will hear Haye say he is the best HW in the World again because he now knows he is not.

[dragons]

Would like to see David (The Toe) Haye take on the winner of Chisora v Fury and then maybe fight Klitschko in rematch.

However Klitschko would win by KO next time.

[THE MESSIAH]

Where are the mods to delete all these shite 'toe' threads?

The Mods have Sundays off so they can go toe church.

Amen toe that!

[THE MESSIAH]

The Mods have Sundays off so they can go toe church.

Amen toe that!

Apart from Poncey, he's not here because he's gone to get his athlete's foot sorted out at the doctors.

Toetally legitimate reason, nothing you can do when it flares up, it choses its victim carefully, for whom the bell toes!

[Adamj1987]

i dont think the question is should there be a rematch (so haye cont say hes injured) but whether anyone would care enough to watch

[CB]

Yes.

Would I pay for it? No. Will it happen? Definitely not.

[jamesmcdonnell]

this thread is toe much.

[Grilling Machine]

Wlad is a bit gun-shy with his right, but you have to risk walking onto it to get past that jab. If Haye was willing to chance it next time, I'd watch a rematch. He'd need to roll in and unleash the left. Tyson was so effective with uppercuts and his left to the body because he scared people to the ropes.

I can't see how Haye could put Klitschko in a position to fire uppercuts at him. He'd definitely need to straighten his right hand. Even at the correct range for it he seems to unload the Eubank special. (Froch was uppercut-happy until he fought guys who could negate it.)

[jamesmcdonnell]

Wlad is a bit gun-shy with his right, but you have to risk walking onto it to get past that jab. If Haye was willing to chance it next time, I watch a rematch. He'd need to roll in and unleash the left. Tyson was so effective with uppercuts and his left to the body because he scared people to the ropes. I can't see how Haye could put Wlad in a position to fire uppercuts at him. He'd definitely need to straighten his right hand. Even at the correct range for it he seems to throw the Eubank special.

Haye isn't good enough to execute that game plan. Haye is a mobile banger who can only really fight at range throwing long power shots. His inside game is terrible, and he wings his shots when in close. Technically he is pretty poor, he's not compact or tight enough and his defence relies on his relfexes which aren't as good as he thinks.

Wlad looked quicker than Haye at times, and with his shots being much straighter they arrived before haye's ever time.

Tyson was a different animal, he was much quicker than Haye, and he closed the gap so fast.

Tyson would have struggled with Wlad because of his size, he was never good against big men who held a lot, but he'd have ground him down and bashed him up late in the fight.

[Autobarn]

doesn't surprise me that wlad would be interested in a rematch.

he knows he beat haye again, and make a lot of money. haye sold out wlad-chagaev (replacement for haye with back injury),, vs haye last night wlad got his most high profile win (last night)- and the german fans, if no one else, willm surely be happy with it all over again.

let's remeber, lewis was pretty keen to have a rematch with tyson, whom lewis beat.

[rhino222]

hayes toe excuse is as bad as british rails 'wrong type of snow' or alex fergusons 'wrong colour shirts' when southampton whooped man utd!!

i love haye, love his balls and love his big punching, but he came across as a complete tw@t during the build up, yes it helped sell tickets but it made people want wladimir to do the business...and he did.

[NazNaci1]

Having watched that, I definitely believe Wlad was genuine is his question about a rematch.

In all seriousness, who else is out there? And whilst I still would not fancy Haye in a rematch, it would make some sense. Obviously Haye has to take a lot lighter end of the purse, nothing anywhere approaching 50-50, not even 60-40, a lot lot less.

This is boxing, anything can happen, although I think Haye kind of accepts that there will be no rematch and given his performance, he shouldn't be expecting one.

Back to square one with his retirement date looming, not great prospects for him.

[stujones]

Having watched that, I definitely believe Wlad was genuine is his question about a rematch.

In all seriousness, who else is out there? And whilst I still would not fancy Haye in a rematch, it would make some sense. Obviously Haye has to take a lot lighter end of the purse, nothing anywhere approaching 50-50, not even 60-40, a lot lot less.

This is boxing, anything can happen, although I think Haye kind of accepts that there will be no rematch and given his performance, he shouldn't be expecting one.

Back to square one with his retirement date looming, not great prospects for him.

He will have his mandatories and all to deal with.

If Chisora beats Fury then I can see Klitchsko coming to the UK to fight him.... seems to be a honourable man and will know he's messed about Chisora - so might "thank" him for waiting.

[crusader]

Wlad's manager said a rematch is not an option.

[bushdoc]

If there's a rematch theres no way I'm paying for it. Will stick a load of money on Wlad to win on points and listen on the radio.

[charlieb]

The only Klitschko Haye will get to fight again will be Vitali.

Wlad's proven his point and he's already a very rich man, why take the chance that Haye's injury had a genuine impact and allow him to come at him again fully fit with a potentially improved gameplan?

Haye didn't take a beating in there, he landed the heavier punches, had Wlad momentarily stunned on one occassion and hurt on another. Wlad simply outworked him. A rematch wouldn't be a gimme, free money, if anything it would be a riskier proposition than the first encounter, with the added negative of getting little or no credit should he win a second time.

If Haye's silly enough to go chasing Vitali in an effort to restore his pride, then that's his call. As a fan, I'd rather he didn't.

[earsjohn]

Wlad's manager said a rematch is not an option.

Source?