Wilt Chamberlain vs. Muhammad Ali 1967

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 18:06

Who wins this matchup?

Wilt Chamberlain 7'1" 275 lbs reach 100?"

Muhammad Ali 6'3" 210 lbs reach 80"

Who wins this ridiculous match up that wasn't even close to happening.

Muhammad Ali has never fought anyone of this size and strength, nor has there been anyone who boxed of his size and strength.

Wilt Chamberlain has no boxing experience at all.

Note: Sweet Scientist wanted me to make this thread.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 10 Jul 2005, 18:49

Wilt Chamberlain has no boxing experience at all.

That pretty much tells me who would win.

Now Grimm reverse the question and ask if Ali could beat Wilt in a one on one game of hoops.

Would you give Ali a chance in that contest, because Ali was such a great fighter?

barry · Post by **barry** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:05

Wilt would have been put out quicker as Mark Gastinaeu if he went against Ali...come to think of it, I don't think Wilt would have beat someone like Boone Kirkman, much less Ali!

Dapaper · Post by **Dapaper** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:14

Grimm wrote:Who wins this matchup?

Wilt Chamberlain 7'1" 275 lbs reach 100?"

Muhammad Ali 6'3" 210 lbs reach 80"

Who wins this ridiculous match up that wasn't even close to happening.

Muhammad Ali has never fought anyone of this size and strength, nor has there been anyone who boxed of his size and strength.

Wilt Chamberlain has no boxing experience at all.

Note: Sweet Scientist wanted me to make this thread.

I think you're just trolling. If not, then you know nothing about boxing. I don't believe what you said in the other thread about having experience boxing, especially since you always talk about it only in third person and theoretical terms even when talking about your own supposed experience.

Anyway, I reccomend for everyone to ignore your posts from now on, I know I will.

-Dapa

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:18

Dapaper wrote:
Grimm wrote:Who wins this matchup?

Wilt Chamberlain 7'1" 275 lbs reach 100?"

Muhammad Ali 6'3" 210 lbs reach 80"

Who wins this ridiculous match up that wasn't even close to happening.

Muhammad Ali has never fought anyone of this size and strength, nor has there been anyone who boxed of his size and strength.

Wilt Chamberlain has no boxing experience at all.

Note: Sweet Scientist wanted me to make this thread.
I don't believe what you said in the other thread about having experience boxing, especially since you always talk about it only in third person and theoretical terms even when talking about your own supposed experience.

When have I reffered to myself in 3rd person?

dws · Post by **dws** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:35

TIMBER!!!!

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:36

I don't even think Kirkman-Chamberlain is a fair fight for Wilt . . .

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:44

Ali would have destroyed him...only a fool would pick Wilt...Somebody puts too much emphasis on size, not enough emphasis on skill...

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:47

Sweet Scientist wrote:Ali would have destroyed him...only a fool would pick Wilt...Somebody puts too much emphasis on size, not enough emphasis on skill...

Putting emphasis on size????????.......maybe a little.

But Wilt Chamberlains height and reach are not why I would pick him, but simply because he was Wilt Chamberlain.

He could do just about everything.

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:48

...and why do you have that tiny little disclaimer about Sweet Scientist wanted you to make this thread? you stuck your foot in your mouth on another thread by saying Wilt would win...that's why...

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:49

Sweet Scientist wrote:Ali would have destroyed him...only a fool would pick Wilt...Somebody puts too much emphasis on size, not enough emphasis on skill...

Hey :x don't let the fact that these huge fighters are infiltrating the HW's fool you

Andre the Giant coulda been a contender

barry · Post by **barry** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:50

I think ringsider put it in real good prespective...would Ali stand a chance beating Wilt one-on-one in basketball and that's about the chance that Wilt would have against Ali in boxing!

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:50

Grimm wrote:
Sweet Scientist wrote:Ali would have destroyed him...only a fool would pick Wilt...Somebody puts too much emphasis on size, not enough emphasis on skill...
Putting emphasis on size????????.......maybe a little.

Maybe way too fornicating much...

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:50

Sweet Scientist wrote:...and why do you have that tiny little disclaimer about Sweet Scientist wanted you to make this thread? you stuck your foot in your mouth on another thread by saying Wilt would win...that's why...

Well you did didn't you.

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:53

Sweet Scientist wrote:
Grimm wrote:
Sweet Scientist wrote:Ali would have destroyed him...only a fool would pick Wilt...Somebody puts too much emphasis on size, not enough emphasis on skill...
Putting emphasis on size????????.......maybe a little.

Maybe way too fornicating much...

The size thing was not the issue.

It was the good at everything part along with the size that would make me pick him.

barry · Post by **barry** » 10 Jul 2005, 19:57

Well, look how awesome Shaq is and how agile...did you see how he punched in an on-court fight, it made Josh Cobb look like boxing stylist...Wilt would have presented much of the same!

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 20:00

barry wrote:Well, look how awesome Shaq is and how agile...did you see how he punched in an on-court fight, it made Josh Cobb look like boxing stylist...Wilt would have presented much of the same!

See that is where it differs.

I would not pick any giant to be a great boxer.

But Chamberlain was an exceptional athlete.

Shaq is very clumsy not even close to agile, Chamberlain on the other hand is the polar opposite.

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 10 Jul 2005, 20:05

Can't believe this discussion is taking place. Someone is pulling someone else's chain me thinks

6'3 and 225 is in my opinion the optimum for HW's. Anything above that and they start to suffer for a few reasons. Skill, stamina, punch resistance, co-ordination. There's always a couple of exceptions, however

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 10 Jul 2005, 20:09

Grimm wrote:
bollox wrote:Can't believe this discussion is taking place. Someone is pulling someone else's chain me thinks

6'3 and 225 is in my opinion the optimum for HW's. Anything above that and they start to suffer for a few reasons. Skill, stamina, punch resistance, co-ordination. There's always a couple of exceptions, however
What about Vitali Klitschko?

What about him, he's not one of the exceptions

. He's rather robotic and there's nobody out there currently to test him. A prime Lewis wipes the floor with him

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 10 Jul 2005, 20:19

bollox wrote:
Grimm wrote:
bollox wrote:Can't believe this discussion is taking place. Someone is pulling someone else's chain me thinks

6'3 and 225 is in my opinion the optimum for HW's. Anything above that and they start to suffer for a few reasons. Skill, stamina, punch resistance, co-ordination. There's always a couple of exceptions, however
What about Vitali Klitschko?
What about him, he's not one of the exceptions . He's rather robotic and there's nobody out there currently to test him. A prime Lewis wipes the floor with him

You say a prime Lewis?

Well what about him.

barry · Post by **barry** » 11 Jul 2005, 04:57

A prime Lewis had been boxing probably 20+ years, Wilt boxed 0+ years!

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 11 Jul 2005, 06:17

My guess is a decent welterweight would have beaten Wilt. There's nothing more hilarious than watching basketball players, footballers, or whoever flaining away at one another when things get heated in a game. They simply cannot fight.

Besides the training regime of a top athlete is not the same as the training regime for a fighter.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 11 Jul 2005, 06:36

I seriously think that we should look at the issue of posters putting up ridiculous threads like this and consider throwing them out of the forum or else confining them to the 'Current scene'... this is supposed to be a serious boxing forum!.....

Dapaper · Post by **Dapaper** » 11 Jul 2005, 07:09

silkov wrote:I seriously think that we should look at the issue of posters putting up ridiculous threads like this and consider throwing them out of the forum or else confining them to the 'Current scene'... this is supposed to be a serious boxing forum!.....

/Agree

Incidentally, along with what Ezzard said about basketball and football players not knowing how to fight, I think great big guys like that usually in fact don't have to fight very much in life, because growing up nobody wants to mess with them, and they end up having less fighting ability than even many "average" people who grow up fighting with other kids a lot. But because nobody wants to mess with them, and they can beat the average man's ass without trying, they think they are badass fighters anyway (see Shaq vs. Charles Barkley where Shaq is the example of what I'm talking about).

-Dapa

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 11 Jul 2005, 12:59

Total missmatch

Ali would destroy Wilt. Wilt was a great athlete but Ali was one of the greatest Heavyweight Boxers ever!!!!

Putting Wilt in with a Heavyweight clubfighter is one thing, putting him in the ring with Ali would have been cruel.

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