Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

The latest on Williams-Lara . . .


Erislandy Lara will still have a loss on his record that he does not deserve, but his complaints of a robbery in his fight with Paul Williams on Saturday in Atlantic City, N.J., received an unexpected boost Wednesday when the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board took the unusual step of suspending the three judges who officiated the bout.

New Jersey indefinitely suspended judges Al Bennett, Hilton Whitaker and Don Givens on Wednesday for their work in the fight, which was broadcast on HBO. A big underdog, Lara lost a majority decision by scores of 116-114 (Givens), 115-114 (Whitaker) and 114-114 (Bennett) in a bout that nearly all who saw it other than the judges and those affiliated with Williams (40-2) felt Lara won convincingly.

HBO’s unofficial ringside scorer, Harold Lederman, a long-time professional judge, had it 117-111 for Lara (15-1-1). Former world champion Roy Jones Jr. was outraged by the call and likened it to the decision against him at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, South Korea, that is widely regarded as one of the worst boxing judgments in history. Yahoo! Sports scored Saturday’s bout for Lara, 116-112.

After a review, New Jersey officials did not determine the decision to be corrupt and, as a result, found no basis for overturning it.

In a statement, Aaron M. Davis, commissioner of the NJSACB, said he was “unsatisfied with the scoring of the contest.”

“This agency has placed all three judges on indefinite suspension,” Davis stated. “Further, all three judges will be required to undergo additional training prior to their return to professional boxing judging.

“Any contestant who enters a ring or cage in our state deserves the best officiating that we can provide. While we do not mean to diminish Mr. Williams’ competitive spirit and exciting style, we feel that we did not provide our best officiating on July 9.”

Rather, all three of the judges are very inexperienced calling fights at the highest level. Givens never scored a fight that was an HBO or Showtime main event. The most notable fights on Whitaker’s record were Zab Judah-Lucas Matthysse from earlier this year and Glen Johnson-Clinton Woods in 2004. Bennett’s most prominent bout was the 2006 match between Bernard Hopkins and Antonio Tarver.

Williams’ promoter, Dan Goossen, did not seem particularly bothered by Smith’s decision to suspend the judges, though he has a vested interest in toeing the line. Andre Ward, whom Goossen promotes, will meet Carl Froch in the finals of Showtime’s Super 6 tournament on Oct. 29 in Atlantic City.

Goossen, who has previously stated he wanted Williams to move on and would not consider a rematch, declined to say if the suspensions would make a rematch more likely.

“My only comment, which I’ve said before and I’ll say again, is that I’ve got no problem with anyone who felt Lara won that fight,” Goossen said. “The only problem I’ve had and I’ve said it from the beginning is that I was dissatisfied with the way the on-air [HBO] announcers spoke of Paul Williams and the way they described the fight.

“I can’t define what this means or put it into any context, but I accept it because it’s New Jersey and I respect the commission there.”

Goossen said he would talk with Williams before discussing a rematch publicly. In his statement, however, Davis said he thought a rematch should be considered, though New Jersey is unable to order it.

“The NJSACB does not have the legal authority, under these circumstances, to invalidate the official result,” Davis said in his statement. “This is due to the fact that all scoring is a matter of subjective judgment. In a similar fashion, we cannot mandate a rematch. However, our opinion is that a rematch may be warranted.”

Promoter Lou DiBella, who was not involved in Saturday’s show but promotes Williams rival Sergio Martinez, was pleased that New Jersey took actions to correct the error.

DiBella said he thought Lara clearly won the fight. He said that he had been planning to write the New Jersey commission on behalf of Martinez and request that Givens, Bennett and Whitaker not work his Oct. 1 fight in Atlantic City against Darren Barker.

“This is a positive step and Commissioner Davis should be commended,” DiBella said.

If there is a rematch, it won’t be any time soon. Williams suffered a deep cut on his left eye and Lara sustained a facial fracture as the result of a clash of heads. Lara is unable to train or fly for six to eight weeks as a result of the fracture. He had to drive home to Florida from New Jersey because of the injury.

David Itskowitch, Golden Boy’s chief operating officer, said the letter only cemented the belief in Lara’s camp that he was the winner.

“Our position is that he won the fight,” Itskowitch said. “Lara’s position has been that he won the fight and his management team’s position is that he won the fight. That was the case on Saturday, it’s still the case now and I feel that the NJSACB’s letter validates that position.”

[Rick Farris]

I Love L.A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sd0gQyOZcY&NR=1

[Rick Farris]

Thank you guys for all you kind words.

I am back from seeing the cardiologist at USC U., I came home hooked up to a Holter ECG Monitor, will be hook to this thing for 24 hours, tomorrow I'll go back so it can be taken off. On Aug. 2 I will do a echocardiogram test and a stress test.

[kikibalt]

For Tom and Ram

http://youtu.be/9GlSAuhS7iU

Manuel's

http://youtu.be/WoHcO7mR_Wg

[Rick Farris]

For Tom and Ram

http://youtu.be/9GlSAuhS7iU

Manuel's

http://youtu.be/WoHcO7mR_Wg

Tom I'm a bringing cameraman to record your upset victory over Manuel.
I'm serious, Greg is a helluva cinematographer who will cover our CAWCB guys next year at the luncheon.
We'll be there to record history as it's made Or not

[kikibalt]

For Tom and Ram

http://youtu.be/9GlSAuhS7iU

Manuel's

http://youtu.be/WoHcO7mR_Wg

Tom I'm a bringing cameraman to record your upset victory over Manuel.
I'm serious, Greg is a helluva cinematographer who will cover our CAWCB guys next year at the luncheon.
We'll be there to record history as it's made Or not

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

[Rick Farris]

For Tom and Ram

http://youtu.be/9GlSAuhS7iU

Manuel's

http://youtu.be/WoHcO7mR_Wg

Tom I'm a bringing cameraman to record your upset victory over Manuel.
I'm serious, Greg is a helluva cinematographer who will cover our CAWCB guys next year at the luncheon.
We'll be there to record history as it's made Or not

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Frank, I have a confident, qualified challenger to Manuel's title.
And he has a qualified trainer, who knows Manuel's effects upon gringos.
I'm not only the Ray Arcel of cornermen on Evergreen Street, I gotta SUV that can double as a Jimmy Montoya meat wagon.

[kikibalt]

Tom I'm a bringing cameraman to record your upset victory over Manuel.
I'm serious, Greg is a helluva cinematographer who will cover our CAWCB guys next year at the luncheon.
We'll be there to record history as it's made Or not

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Frank, I have a confident, qualified challenger to Manuel's title.
And he has a qualified trainer, who knows Manuel's effects upon gringos.
I'm not only the Ray Arcel of cornermen on Evergreen Street, I gotta SUV that can double as a Jimmy Montoya meat wagon.

[Rick Farris]

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Frank, I have a confident, qualified challenger to Manuel's title.
And he has a qualified trainer, who knows Manuel's effects upon gringos.
I'm not only the Ray Arcel of cornermen on Evergreen Street, I gotta SUV that can double as a Jimmy Montoya meat wagon.

We're ready for Anything! . . .

Actually, the back of my SUV where we'd have to stretch out a body might fall a bit short of 6'6"?
Tom, I know you are going to win, but just in case, do you mind if your legs hang out the back window?
I have rear window that flips open, might be a God send? It's just a short 20 minute return trip to The Lodge.
Be sure to let me know ahead of time if you feel sick. I'll cover cab fare, amigo.

Tom, I honestly think we need to bring in Randy as an "Advisor", "Conditioning coach", "Voice in the corner".
As a fellow gringo, who once fought & won in ELA (I beat a kid named Carlos at the Boy's Club, not a monster named "Manuel" at Tepeyac).
I will be there for you. But you need a Homie in your corner.
Randy was born in Boyle Heights, and Randy kicked Manuel's ass, and then kicked half of his ass again just to make a point.
Me? Last time out I lost a decision to Kid Hollenbeck.

Remy will defeat Hollenbeck, I guarantee it, and he'll likely show off by topping off a taco or two as well? (Kinda like when Vic Ortiz won the title )
Remy will do anything to disguise the shame of bowing to "Manuel", as he did right before entering the "championship rounds", last month.
I'm Remy's US rep. We'll take on any West Coast burrito. We are open to face any El Tepeyac Burrito, except for one named "Manuel".
We been there, done that. As Roberto Duran once said, "No mas!" ;;-)

Always thinking of those whose "tabels" I work.
The "Burrito Eaters" I rep are the best in the world! One is known throughout Scandanavia as the "Pride of Norway"

[raylawpc]

For Tom and Ram

http://youtu.be/9GlSAuhS7iU

Manuel's

http://youtu.be/WoHcO7mR_Wg

Tom I'm a bringing cameraman to record your upset victory over Manuel.
I'm serious, Greg is a helluva cinematographer who will cover our CAWCB guys next year at the luncheon.
We'll be there to record history as it's made Or not

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Oh ye of little faith . . .

[Rick Farris]

Tom I'm a bringing cameraman to record your upset victory over Manuel.
I'm serious, Greg is a helluva cinematographer who will cover our CAWCB guys next year at the luncheon.
We'll be there to record history as it's made Or not

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Oh ye of little faith . . .

Tom, when it comes to burritos, it ain't easy to impress on the Eastside,
When you sit down to eat at El Tepeyac, you'll have a lot to prove.
Legend is that after Randy humiliated Manuel, the Mexican Mafia put a price on his head.
Randy was a home boy and showed his respect, so the note was lifted, and Randy is a hero today.
At least being from the Mid West, if you finish off Manuel, you won't have to show your respect.
They are going to shoot you in the parking lot anyway

[CNorkusJr]

It hanging on the wall with other awards.

Frank . . .

You have been honored by the World Boxing Hall of Fame (the "Johnny Flores Award")
You were inducted into the California Boxing Hall of Fame
You received the "Joe Louis" medallion from the Golden State Boxer's Association
You have been presented citations from both the City & County of Los Angeles for your contributions to boxing and the youth of Southern Cal!

Anymore awards and you'll have to add another wall.

Wow, I had no idea Frank... great stuff

Thank You Rick for pointing out Mr Baltazar's achievements.
I take Frank as a modest man. Certainly, a man of distinction in the Boxing Game.
There are two other Great things Frank is responsible for in boxing. Frankie Jr & Tony the
Tiger. Of course the entire Baltazar Family are a team of winners. Looking forward to meeting Frank & family.

[CNorkusJr]

I have a lot of NY buddies. All "stand-up" guys.
Don't be surprised if for the first time in history, New York, New Jersy and Southern Claifornia will all come together at one point to honor American boxing greats.

An idea lost past due. New York,New Jersey & California has in history shown great alliances and has put on fights between combatants that were most exciting and entertaining to watch.
I am thankful for the various States HOF committees recognizing boxers for their achievements, and not just one big HOF called the Intl Boxing HOF.
As we all know, there are many fighters who have put out great efforts and careers that warrant recognition for giving people thrills locally and nationally.
Within the walls of State HOF's lie the heart and soul of this sport.
Men and Women that might not have held title belts, but held Champion status in our hearts and minds in our love of boxing.

[CNorkusJr]

Here you go Rick.
Myself with Teddy Atlas, my brother in-law Paul Bluemke, Hvywt Vinny Maddalone
At a Ring 8 meeting just a couple of months ago.
Paul will be flying out with his family to the HOF dinner next year.
This photo was taken just a month or two after Vinny fought Thomas adamek on HBO ,I believe. Adamek by KO. Vinny is still training and might have a fight sceduled soon.
Vinny also sits on the Ring 8 trustee Bd and attends meeting regularly.

Teddy Atlas this night was special guest speaker talking about training habits of fighters he had, dished some dirt on the various ABC's title belts and their orgs, and the state of boxing today from a TV analyst point of view. Great and informative.

[Rick Farris]

Here you go Rick.
Myself with Teddy Atlas, my brother in-law Paul Bluemke, Hvywt Vinny Maddalone
At a Ring 8 meeting just a couple of months ago.
Paul will be flying out with his family to the HOF dinner next year.
This photo was taken just a month or two after Vinny fought Thomas adamek on HBO ,I believe. Adamek by KO. Vinny is still training and might have a fight sceduled soon.
Vinny also sits on the Ring 8 trustee Bd and attends meeting regularly.

Teddy Atlas this night was special guest speaker talking about training habits of fighters he had, dished some dirt on the various ABC's title belts and their orgs, and the state of boxing today from a TV analyst point of view. Great and informative.

Great photo! Thanks, Charlie.
My friend Michael Castellano was back on Staton Island last November tho celebrate the the Dr. Theodore A. Atlas Foundation.
68-years-ago, Teddy's father delivered Michael in the family's small Staton Island home. Michael says the doctor was loved by all.
Michael has been Russell Crowe's Wardrobe man for twenty years, and was with Frank Sinatra for years.
Michael has been my guest at the CBHOf the past two years and will likely be there in 2012.

[raylawpc]

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Oh ye of little faith . . .

Tom, when it comes to burritos, it ain't easy to impress on the Eastside,
When you sit down to eat at El Tepeyac, you'll have a lot to prove.
Legend is that after Randy humiliated Manuel, the Mexican Mafia put a price on his head.
Randy was a home boy and showed his respect, so the note was lifted, and Randy is a hero today.
At least being from the Mid West, if you finish off Manuel, you won't have to show your respect.
They are going to shoot you in the parking lot anyway

I just watched those videos you posted. If they shoot me, I'll probably thank them for putting me out of my misery . . .

[bennie]

Here you go Rick.
Myself with Teddy Atlas, my brother in-law Paul Bluemke, Hvywt Vinny Maddalone
At a Ring 8 meeting just a couple of months ago.
Paul will be flying out with his family to the HOF dinner next year.
This photo was taken just a month or two after Vinny fought Thomas adamek on HBO ,I believe. Adamek by KO. Vinny is still training and might have a fight sceduled soon.
Vinny also sits on the Ring 8 trustee Bd and attends meeting regularly.

Teddy Atlas this night was special guest speaker talking about training habits of fighters he had, dished some dirt on the various ABC's title belts and their orgs, and the state of boxing today from a TV analyst point of view. Great and informative.

Is Teddy sporting the Man Utd look?

[kikibalt]

I am not a betting man, but on this bout I will bet; and my money will be on Kid Manuel, late round TKO...

Oh ye of little faith . . .

Tom, when it comes to burritos, it ain't easy to impress on the Eastside,
When you sit down to eat at El Tepeyac, you'll have a lot to prove.
Legend is that after Randy humiliated Manuel, the Mexican Mafia put a price on his head.
Randy was a home boy and showed his respect, so the note was lifted, and Randy is a hero today.
At least being from the Mid West, if you finish off Manuel, you won't have to show your respect.
They are going to shoot you in the parking lot anyway

[bennie]

Courtesy John Bardelli . . .
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WHERE HAVE YOU GONE JOE DIMAGGIO: REAL BOXING TRAINERS?
July 12th, 2011 By Chuck Marbry

Charlotte, NC- Well, I saw and heard it again this weekend; a fighter comes to his corner after getting his face re-arranged. He has to wait at least eight seconds for the stool to finally get into the ring. His so-called “trainer” doesn’t pull on his foul protector so he can breathe deeply and easier, then allows the fighter to prop his arms on the ropes instead of keeping them down to enhance blood flow and recuperation. The “trainer” wipes his guy’s face with a towel, covers his forehead with about ten pounds of Vaseline, gives his guy some water, pours water on his guy’s head (after putting Vaseline over his eyes), and his advice to his guy after getting pummeled for the previous three minutes? “Just throw punches, you doing good!”

SOME (MOST?) TRAINERS TODAY ARE MERE IMPERSONATORS!

It is amazing to me that in the boxing game at the professional level there are apparently so many “trainers” who neverexperienced the sport at even the most rudimentary levels of competition, yet are allowed to get licensed and work in corners as “experts”and are even at times acknowledged by some guys impersonating themselves as media, when all they are is a somebody with a keyboard and a press credential.

NOT THE KIND OF GIG “YOU LEARN ON THE JOB”

Granted, you do not have to actually stick your hand into the fire to know that it will burn you. However, there is something about having that experience that helps you relay that information to others with a bit more urgency. In the same way, you do not have to have been a fighter to become a good trainer. Angelo Dundeeis an excellent trainer, and if he ever fought, I am not aware of it.

NEED TO BE BAPTIZED & THEN TAUGHT THE GAME

To be a good trainer, you do have to immerse yourself into the sport for years. You have to hang around it, eat, sleep, watch learn, pick up little nuances here and there that will in time make big differences. You have to develop a sharp eye to be able to size up mental and physical qualities, not only of your fighter but of his opponent as well. The fighter that was getting the dickens beat out of him this weekend, whose “trainer” told him “Just throw punches” was getting hit so much because every time he threw a jab, he dropped his right. His opponent picked up on it and started timing his own left hooks and was nailing him! But if the extent of your instruction as a”trainer” is “Just throw punches,” that might work in the amateurs, but your guy is going to get killed in the professional ranks.

JEFF MAYWEATHER’S ONE TRAINER THAT TEACHES DEFENSE FIRST!

As I have said, there are a few good trainers,coaches and teachers of the manly art of self defense around today, precious few. But sadly, there are also too many goof-balls that get a license and call themselves trainers who are nothing of the sort. Just as we lack a depth of truly hungry fighters with that “fire in the gut”, so we also have a lack of and a dilution of the ones who used to “stoke the fire” in the gut!

CAN YOU NAME FIVE “EXCELLENT” TRAINERS TODAY?

Think about it. With a precious few exceptions as far as trainers go, in terms of knowing how to train a fighter. and in terms of general boxing knowledge, is there really anyone out there who is close to comparing to Lou Kemp, Whitey Bimstein, Freddie Brown, Jackie McCoy, Ray Arcel or Charley Goldman?

IF YOUR TRAINER DOESN’T CARE, WILL YOU?

And when you watch almost any heavyweight bout today on any card, almost always one if not both fighters look like a “before” example on a Weight Watchers commercial. The only thing I can figure is that the lax mental attitude of our society today has affected our “trainers” and fighters, as well as fan’s for tolerating an inferior product. I mean, many times the poor physical conditioning is obvious.

TRAINERS NEED TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY TOO!

That has to come back on the “trainer” giving in to the whims of the fighter. I know that if I had told my trainer, Lou Kemp, “I don’t think I’m gonna run or spar today,” two things would have happened, in this order; 1) He would have kicked my lazy tail, and 2) He would have canceled the fight. Period. Not out of spite or some power control issue. He cared about his fighters and he cared about me. He knew if I wasn’t right mentally or physically going into a fight, I was going to get hurt. That’s what a trainer does.

GOOD TEACHERS WORK THE BODY & THE MIND

You have to analyze and prepare a fighter physically and mentally to fight. True conditioning requires a fighter to always be busy. There are no secrets to hard work and plenty of it.

FIGHTERS NEED TO ANALYZE A TRAINERS NET VALUE TO HIM

Also, many of today’s fighters are allowed by their “trainers” to fight dumb. They follow their opponents around the ring in a straight line. Trainers don’t know how to teach cutting off the ring. They also fight standing straight up, they don’t know how to use a crouch or to bob and weave. The great lessons of the past are being lost because we don’t have anyone to teach them. The Old School Masters showed us the way. but many think the “New and Improved” is better…”Just throw punches, you doing good.”

This is a great article, and I agree with 100% of it. I see work in corners today and just shake my head.

The problem is: Learning to be a good cornerman IS on-the-job training. There is no school you can go to to learn to be a cornerman. You have to learn by working with great cornermen - kind of like an apprenticeship. I learned by working with good cornermen. When a Carlos Ortiz, Mando Ramos, Oscar Bonavena (strike that; I stayed away from his corner - they were as nuts as he was), Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, etc. came to town, I always volunteered to help out in their corners. I watched their cornermen, and I learned. After the fight, I'd ask questions about the things I saw them do, and the instructions they gave the fighter. Almost to a man (there was one notable exception), they were happy to answer my questions and give me advice. They saw that I was trying to learn, and they were very accommodating. Sadly, today there are no good ones to learn from.

Tom, you can't just leave it there; tell us who the stroppy trainer was?

[Cholo]

Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Bolton Ford, Fight-26th August 1949,
During the rest period after the opening round of his clash with Art Aragon, 136, at the Hollywood Stadium, Bolton Ford, 136, Pittsburgh, appeared very much at ease. He had just garnered the first round with a few rights to the body, had not been hit a solid blow, and was probably recalling his start in this ring last winter when he scored the upset of the year. What Ford didn't realize was that Aragon had held back and was coolly planning the pittsburgher's doom. Aragon took over in the second round. The Golden Boy (You're welcome, Art) sunk a couple of hooks into Ford's furnace. Bolton lowered his guard-and Aragon lowered the boom! A left hook put the muscular Pittsburgher flat on his back, looking up and seeing the roof still there. Bolton scrambled to his feet at the count of seven. Aragon moved in quickly and dropped Ford with another left hook to the button. Bolton was up at the count of 3 this time, but he was wearing the expression of a guy in love and when referee Johnny Indrisano saw that far away look in Ford's eyes-the setto was declared over..

[Cholo]

Frank, I hope everything is okay buddy, keep punching..

[Panzerfaust]

Valley boxing great Terronez dies at 71

Posted at 11:09 PM on Monday, Jul. 11, 2011

By Bryant-Jon Anteola / The Fresno Bee

Gabe Terronez, a Fresno native who rose from humble beginnings as a migrant farmworker to become one of the top welterweight fighters in the world, died Friday morning. He was 71.

A headline boxer and a popular local figure during the 1960s, Mr. Terronez became a role model in the Hispanic community after leaving his life as a Corcoran teenager who picked fruits and cotton up and down the central San Joaquin Valley to serve in the Marines and then fight professionally for seven years.

Mr. Terronez competed in the U.S. Olympic trials in 1960 and went 31-3 with 27 knockouts as an amateur before emerging as the No. 5 world-ranked welterweight with a 32-8 record and 19 knockouts as a pro. Mr. Terronez was inducted into the Fresno Athletic Hall of Fame in 2000.

"He was a special boxer, such a natural puncher," said Pat DiFuria Sr., who trained and managed Terronez. "For a 145-pounder, he was the strongest man I'd ever seen. And the fans loved him; his charisma.

"He was a slugger, and no matter what punch he'd hit you with, he was going to hurt you. Fresno never saw a fighter more exciting."

Among his top achievements in the ring, Mr. Terronez knocked out Charley "Tiger" Smith to win the state title and split a pair of fights against ranked Puerto Rican Jose Stable.

In 1965, Mr. Terronez lasted four rounds against welterweight champion Emil Griffith before losing in a non-title bout fought before thousands of fans at the Kearney Bowl in Fresno.

Mr. Terronez would get the crowd in the mood before his fights by walking toward the ring with Mariachi music playing during introductions.

His nicknames – "The Little Professor" and "Choir Boy" – were earned for maintaining a squeaky-clean image outside of the ring, going to school and singing in the church choir but boxing professionally to help pay for his tuition.

Mr. Terronez was the first in his family to earn a college degree after graduating from Fresno State.

"Being a Hispanic fighter, people in the community could relate to him and they started to look up to him," said Fresno City Council Member Sal Quintero, a longtime friend. "He was like them. He didn't have much money. And yet, he was doing great things."

Shortly after marrying the late Elizabeth Huerta, Mr. Terronez retired from boxing at 29 years old in 1969. He went on to work for California Gov. Ronald Reagan's office as a community relations consultant, then with the University of California Cooperative Extension and helped students of migrant upbringing find professional work.

Still, boxing remained in him. And Mr. Terronez would often bob and weave as if he still were fighting while sitting down and watching a match.

"You could never sneak up on my dad," said Stephanie Terronez, the boxer's oldest of five children. "His reflexes were always lightning fast, and his fist was cocked back whenever he caught you trying."

Mr. Terronez retired early from his professional career to attend to his ailing wife, who died in 1992 after a five-year fight with cancer. Elizabeth Huerta Terronez was the first Hispanic principal in Fresno. A middle school in the city's southeast side is named in honor of the late Bullard High principal.

During their 25 years of marriage, they attended numerous athletic high school events. In the years after her passing, Mr. Terronez found comfort listening to classical music and playing golf.

Mr. Terronez is survived by children Stephanie, Dante, Desiree, Damien and Nicole.

A memorial service is scheduled for 2 p.m. Friday at St John's Cathedral.

[raylawpc]

Courtesy John Bardelli . . .
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WHERE HAVE YOU GONE JOE DIMAGGIO: REAL BOXING TRAINERS?
July 12th, 2011 By Chuck Marbry

Charlotte, NC- Well, I saw and heard it again this weekend; a fighter comes to his corner after getting his face re-arranged. He has to wait at least eight seconds for the stool to finally get into the ring. His so-called “trainer” doesn’t pull on his foul protector so he can breathe deeply and easier, then allows the fighter to prop his arms on the ropes instead of keeping them down to enhance blood flow and recuperation. The “trainer” wipes his guy’s face with a towel, covers his forehead with about ten pounds of Vaseline, gives his guy some water, pours water on his guy’s head (after putting Vaseline over his eyes), and his advice to his guy after getting pummeled for the previous three minutes? “Just throw punches, you doing good!”

SOME (MOST?) TRAINERS TODAY ARE MERE IMPERSONATORS!

It is amazing to me that in the boxing game at the professional level there are apparently so many “trainers” who neverexperienced the sport at even the most rudimentary levels of competition, yet are allowed to get licensed and work in corners as “experts”and are even at times acknowledged by some guys impersonating themselves as media, when all they are is a somebody with a keyboard and a press credential.

NOT THE KIND OF GIG “YOU LEARN ON THE JOB”

Granted, you do not have to actually stick your hand into the fire to know that it will burn you. However, there is something about having that experience that helps you relay that information to others with a bit more urgency. In the same way, you do not have to have been a fighter to become a good trainer. Angelo Dundeeis an excellent trainer, and if he ever fought, I am not aware of it.

NEED TO BE BAPTIZED & THEN TAUGHT THE GAME

To be a good trainer, you do have to immerse yourself into the sport for years. You have to hang around it, eat, sleep, watch learn, pick up little nuances here and there that will in time make big differences. You have to develop a sharp eye to be able to size up mental and physical qualities, not only of your fighter but of his opponent as well. The fighter that was getting the dickens beat out of him this weekend, whose “trainer” told him “Just throw punches” was getting hit so much because every time he threw a jab, he dropped his right. His opponent picked up on it and started timing his own left hooks and was nailing him! But if the extent of your instruction as a”trainer” is “Just throw punches,” that might work in the amateurs, but your guy is going to get killed in the professional ranks.

JEFF MAYWEATHER’S ONE TRAINER THAT TEACHES DEFENSE FIRST!

As I have said, there are a few good trainers,coaches and teachers of the manly art of self defense around today, precious few. But sadly, there are also too many goof-balls that get a license and call themselves trainers who are nothing of the sort. Just as we lack a depth of truly hungry fighters with that “fire in the gut”, so we also have a lack of and a dilution of the ones who used to “stoke the fire” in the gut!

CAN YOU NAME FIVE “EXCELLENT” TRAINERS TODAY?

Think about it. With a precious few exceptions as far as trainers go, in terms of knowing how to train a fighter. and in terms of general boxing knowledge, is there really anyone out there who is close to comparing to Lou Kemp, Whitey Bimstein, Freddie Brown, Jackie McCoy, Ray Arcel or Charley Goldman?

IF YOUR TRAINER DOESN’T CARE, WILL YOU?

And when you watch almost any heavyweight bout today on any card, almost always one if not both fighters look like a “before” example on a Weight Watchers commercial. The only thing I can figure is that the lax mental attitude of our society today has affected our “trainers” and fighters, as well as fan’s for tolerating an inferior product. I mean, many times the poor physical conditioning is obvious.

TRAINERS NEED TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY TOO!

That has to come back on the “trainer” giving in to the whims of the fighter. I know that if I had told my trainer, Lou Kemp, “I don’t think I’m gonna run or spar today,” two things would have happened, in this order; 1) He would have kicked my lazy tail, and 2) He would have canceled the fight. Period. Not out of spite or some power control issue. He cared about his fighters and he cared about me. He knew if I wasn’t right mentally or physically going into a fight, I was going to get hurt. That’s what a trainer does.

GOOD TEACHERS WORK THE BODY & THE MIND

You have to analyze and prepare a fighter physically and mentally to fight. True conditioning requires a fighter to always be busy. There are no secrets to hard work and plenty of it.

FIGHTERS NEED TO ANALYZE A TRAINERS NET VALUE TO HIM

Also, many of today’s fighters are allowed by their “trainers” to fight dumb. They follow their opponents around the ring in a straight line. Trainers don’t know how to teach cutting off the ring. They also fight standing straight up, they don’t know how to use a crouch or to bob and weave. The great lessons of the past are being lost because we don’t have anyone to teach them. The Old School Masters showed us the way. but many think the “New and Improved” is better…”Just throw punches, you doing good.”

This is a great article, and I agree with 100% of it. I see work in corners today and just shake my head.

The problem is: Learning to be a good cornerman IS on-the-job training. There is no school you can go to to learn to be a cornerman. You have to learn by working with great cornermen - kind of like an apprenticeship. I learned by working with good cornermen. When a Carlos Ortiz, Mando Ramos, Oscar Bonavena (strike that; I stayed away from his corner - they were as nuts as he was), Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, etc. came to town, I always volunteered to help out in their corners. I watched their cornermen, and I learned. After the fight, I'd ask questions about the things I saw them do, and the instructions they gave the fighter. Almost to a man (there was one notable exception), they were happy to answer my questions and give me advice. They saw that I was trying to learn, and they were very accommodating. Sadly, today there are no good ones to learn from.

Tom, you can't just leave it there; tell us who the stroppy trainer was?

Bobby Lewis, Ron Lyle's trainer. Lyle was no ray of sunshine either, but he was going through a rough spot in his career.

[Rick Farris]

What would Mel say about Manuel? . . .

Randy and I have never discussed what Mel Epstein might have said had he been introduced to a "Manuel's Special".
I do know that our old trainer would never take one on himself, not his style, he had nothing to prove to a burrito.
However, reading all of our nonsense about Manuel's invincibility might have Mel thinking back to a few big eaters he'd crossed paths with who would "have no trouble" beating Manuel? Knowing Mel he'd tell tale about some coal miner he knew, or some Montana ranch hand who he had seen eat a steer whole? He might tell of how he was taught to "clean his plate" as a child, or explain that a "depression kid" would never walk away leaving food on their dish. He might claim that "Young Firpo" would have devoured a Manuel and then topped off a sundae for desert? Something tells me Mel would not be intimidated by a "Manuel's Special", but I'm also pretty sure our old trainer would have admitted, "That's one helluva burrito!"
We can all talk, and all dream about finishing off a Manuel, but to date, I only have met one man who has done it, and that was Randy. Remy was not in shape for Manuel. Remy was doing everything backwards, sit-ups & stomach muscle excercies at Wild Card hardened his belly for blows, but not for digesting a burrito the size of a small pick-up truck. The best way to train for Manuel is to do everything people tell you not to do. Read how a nutritionist tells you how to eat and do the opposite.

[kikibalt]

Frank, I hope everything is okay buddy, keep punching..