Ike Ibeabuchi

[Ezzard]

Whilst Ike has become a bit of an internet phenomenum I do think he'd have done reasonably well. He had all the physical traits and, a bit like Marciano, I think he'd have got the fights with Lewis, Holy and Tyson as they were winding down. He'd have had more fuel in the tank and fewer miles on the clock. And just like Rocky he fought in a way that demanded that you were physically at the top of your game.

Doesn't mean Lennox wouldn't have out-smarted him. He probably still had enough left. Holy was fighting in spurts and unable to go full-out for 12 rounds by 1999.

The Klit boys would have probably been too mentally strong. Perhaps could have got the better of Vitali mark I.

[Jon Saxon]

Whilst Ike has become a bit of an internet phenomenum I do think he'd have done reasonably well. He had all the physical traits and, a bit like Marciano, I think he'd have got the fights with Lewis, Holy and Tyson as they were winding down. He'd have had more fuel in the tank and fewer miles on the clock. And just like Rocky he fought in a way that demanded that you were physically at the top of your game.

Doesn't mean Lennox wouldn't have out-smarted him. He probably still had enough left. Holy was fighting in spurts and unable to go full-out for 12 rounds by 1999.

The Klit boys would have probably been too mentally strong. Perhaps could have got the better of Vitali mark I.

I like watching him but I think he would have turned out to be the new Ron Lyle of the division, i.e. could have shocked a few but got beat when it really counted.

He was quite slow at times also I thought.

[kevo]

I dont choose to keep bothering with caps lock & i have not got grammar.your understanding of literature is greater,like my boxing is i spell good though
also where do you rate lewis in your alltime heavies. i dont rate him the best of his era. his victories over tyson & holyfield are none existent to me, as they are any knowledgeable expert.

Out of interest, who do you rate as the best of the era?

[keithmoonhangover]

Why is it posters who don't understand grammar or using capitals always seem to write childish uninformed drivel? Funny that.
.

Look mate this is really something that gets my goat.

I myself am a major league shit speller of that there is no doubt, but for you to say this is firing a cheap shot at people who either are simply not good at grammar or possibly even dyslexic or at worst lazy AND If you think that then automaticly qualifies anyone for a lack of substance in their writings than you are obviously a complete fool or even a verbal bully.

My spelling is trully shocking but I am the most successful man I know (take this anyway you want I dont give a shit) in many seperate buisness ventures and I write like a seven year old.

So please stop with this now and for fuks sake show some class.


"Genius minds are almost always bad spellers"

Well said Jon Saxon - I hate these numpties who think it's important to have good grammar and spelling on a boxing forum.

I have a touch of dyslexia and always struggle with certain words (like England for some bizzare reason!), but really who gives a toss? I can't be arsed to cut and paste my posts into word, spell check them and then cut and paste them back.

Tossers.

[hurlock]

I dont choose to keep bothering with caps lock & i have not got grammar.your understanding of literature is greater,like my boxing is i spell good though
also where do you rate lewis in your alltime heavies. i dont rate him the best of his era. his victories over tyson & holyfield are none existent to me, as they are any knowledgeable expert.

Out of interest, who do you rate as the best of the era?

1.Tyson (phenominal & i hate when people say when the fear factor went he was beatable, he peaked early & had troubles with his trusted wife screwing him over & losing his mentor, he was finished before jail & he came out a very angry individual & boxing was no longer for love & his performances showed the patience had gone aswell as his desire.

2.holyfield second as his longjevity & allround warrior like way.

3.lewis/bowe i rated bowes ability highly v golota he was gone imo.& lewis showed up after it was all said & done & opted to bring himself along in the lower class european circuit as he wasnt ready for the above combatants. vitali could feature joint aswell.

[Bricks]

the legend of lennox lewis seems to grow year by year.....yet if a live heavyweight like hasim rahman could have levelled him in his prime and a iron chinned Mercer push him to the wire than its entirely conceivable Ibeabuchi could have done both these things.....

comparing Tuas non performance against Lewis is ridiculous. We just didnt know at the time that Tua was lazy.....just like we didnt know it with Moorer based on his early career.

Lewis may have beaten him and Ike may have ended up just another samuel peter to the brothers.

But I think he was next level.....and would have won at least 2 versions of the title and probably kayoed wladimir in the early 2000s

[Bricks]

Ha'way OP, you don't actually expect me to read all of that d'ya?

It was a fantastic article very well written and credit to the thread starter for a really enjoyable read.

[keithmoonhangover]

Ha'way OP, you don't actually expect me to read all of that d'ya?

It was a fantastic article very well written and credit to the thread starter for a really enjoyable read.

I was being light hearted mate. I wasn't having a go.

[loaded_gloves]

Why is it posters who don't understand grammar or using capitals always seem to write childish uninformed drivel? Funny that.
.

Look mate this is really something that gets my goat.

I myself am a major league shit speller of that there is no doubt, but for you to say this is firing a cheap shot at people who either are simply not good at grammar or possibly even dyslexic or at worst lazy AND If you think that then automaticly qualifies anyone for a lack of substance in their writings than you are obviously a complete fool or even a verbal bully.

My spelling is trully shocking but I am the most successful man I know (take this anyway you want I dont give a shit) in many seperate buisness ventures and I write like a seven year old.

So please stop with this now and for fuks sake show some class.


"Genius minds are almost always bad spellers"

You're right, I was being a bit harsh and snobbish there, I too know some smart fellas who are simply too lazy to write in anything other than lower case. I think it's just too many years of reading bizarre rambling posts from men who sound children insisting Mike Tyson and Ike Ibeabuchi are the two greatest heavyweights of all time and having no knowledge of any boxer outside of those two. It's starting to melt my brain.

[hurlock]

Why is it posters who don't understand grammar or using capitals always seem to write childish uninformed drivel? Funny that.
.

Look mate this is really something that gets my goat.

I myself am a major league shit speller of that there is no doubt, but for you to say this is firing a cheap shot at people who either are simply not good at grammar or possibly even dyslexic or at worst lazy AND If you think that then automaticly qualifies anyone for a lack of substance in their writings than you are obviously a complete fool or even a verbal bully.

My spelling is trully shocking but I am the most successful man I know (take this anyway you want I dont give a shit) in many seperate buisness ventures and I write like a seven year old.

So please stop with this now and for fuks sake show some class.


"Genius minds are almost always bad spellers"

You're right, I was being a bit harsh and snobbish there, I too know some smart fellas who are simply too lazy to write in anything other than lower case. I think it's just too many years of reading bizarre rambling posts from men who sound children insisting Mike Tyson and Ike Ibeabuchi are the two greatest heavyweights of all time and having no knowledge of any boxer outside of those two. It's starting to melt my brain.

it's called opinions tit. as for ike it's a case of how good could he of been.

[johnswan1]

Interesting opinion on Ibeabuchi in Doug Fishers Ring TV mailbag this morning:

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1680 ... ay-mailbag

I thought Ibeabuchi had the talent to become the undisputed heavyweight champ. He had the stamina and durability to outwork a prime David Tua over 12 hellacious rounds and the speed and technique to catch and take out the ultra-slick Chris Byrd. Evander Holyfield was too old in 1998 and ’99 to keep up with Ike and Lewis didn’t have the chin to last the distance with the Nigerian.