
Photo courtesy of my brother Mando, A.K.A. Waldo
Jackson Lake, near the town of Wrightwood in the Angeles National Forest

Rick Farris wrote:Frank, Don & Tom . . .
Hope all of you feel better soon!
kikibalt wrote:
Photo courtesy of my brother Mando, A.K.A. Waldo
Jackson Lake, near the town of Wrightwood in the Angeles National Forest
Rick, my brother Mando lives in Wrightwood, he moved there in 2006 right after he retired from the L.A. Co. Sheriff Dept. Jackson Lake is about 5 miles N/W of Wrightwood...Rick Farris wrote:
When I was a kid I saw and played in the snow for the first time up in Wrightwood.
We also filmed one of the last episodes of "The Rockford Files" in Wrightwood in late 1979.
Never saw this lake. Beautiful!
Great news Tom. Take it easy when you get home...Come to think of it, it's just the right time to join the "Kept Men" club...raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
Wrightwood . . .kikibalt wrote:Rick, my brother Mando lives in Wrightwood, he moved there in 2006 right after he retired from the L.A. Co. Sheriff Dept. Jackson Lake is about 5 miles N/W of Wrightwood...Rick Farris wrote:
When I was a kid I saw and played in the snow for the first time up in Wrightwood.
We also filmed one of the last episodes of "The Rockford Files" in Wrightwood in late 1979.
Never saw this lake. Beautiful!
California Athletic Commission suspends Tom Ray . . .raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
kikibalt wrote:Great news Tom. Take it easy when you get home...Come to think of it, it's just the right time to join the "Kept Men" club...raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
I'm glad they found it when they did Tom. Here's to a quick recovery.raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
Antoine might just have the answer for our country's debt ceiling and relief.
In all seriousness, I talked to my rehab RN about the Manuel challenge. After first asking me if I was joking (and hearing that I was serious about it), she said, "Well, if you lose weight, get your blood sugar under control, and otherwise keep your cholesterol in acceptable ranges, you can do something like that every now and then."Rick Farris wrote:California Athletic Commission suspends Tom Ray . . .raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
Tom, I hate to inform you but the California State Athletic Commission had suspended your license indefinitly.
They will not allow you to take on a "Manuel's Special" until cleared by Commision Physician Dr. Berhart S. Schwartz.
This was the order of former commission chief, Joey Olmos, who is now in his 90's![]()
I told Olmos that Dr. Schwartz died years ago.
He just shook his head and said, "Tom Ray will not be cleared until Dr. Schwartz returns to work."
Sometimes bad news is good news.![]()
Maybe we can get Remy to take another try?![]()
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Rick Farris wrote:California Athletic Commission suspends Tom Ray . . .raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
Tom, I hate to inform you but the California State Athletic Commission had suspended your license indefinitly.
They will not allow you to take on a "Manuel's Special" until cleared by Commision Physician Dr. Berhart S. Schwartz.
This was the order of former commission chief, Joey Olmos, who is now in his 90's![]()
I told Olmos that Dr. Schwartz died years ago.
He just shook his head and said, "Tom Ray will not be cleared until Dr. Schwartz returns to work."
Sometimes bad news is good news.![]()
Maybe we can get Remy to take another try?![]()
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I missed all this, Tom, and I'm relieved that you are OK.raylawpc wrote:Turns out I had blockage in one artery, and they cleared it with a stint.No damage to the heart, and I get out of the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for your kind thoughts and words.
kikibalt wrote:Alvarez to defend title at Staples Center
Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will defend his world super-welterweight belt Sept. 17 at Staples Center against former "The Contender" reality-TV fighter Alfonso Gomez, boxing officials said.
Alvarez (37-0-1, 27 KOs) claimed the belt at Anaheim's Honda Center in March, then defended it with a 12th-round technical knockout of Ryan Rhodes in June. The fight against Gomez (23-4-2) will be the main event of the Staples card, and be televised as part of the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Victor Ortiz pay-per-view card from MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Golden Boy Promotions also said former world champion Erik Morales will fight Anthony Crolla in Las Vegas that night.
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When the hell is Alvarez going to fight somebody that is not a human punching bag??....![]()
Gomez is nothing more than a class B fighter, always has been, and always will be....
One of the "sticking in his craw" items that Teddy Atlas talked about during his visit to Ring 8 is : with less and less boxing clubs and less and less boxers today as compared with the yesteryears, the ABC orgs have created so many weight classes that the boxing wt classes cannot support the amount of talent in those classes. They are each about 5 boxing contenders deep if that in most.By going back to 8 wt classes maybe 9 because of the higher weights that are boxing now- you will see tightly contending matches, but the ABC orgs are not going for it because of its promotions of "title "holders such as Canelo. They feel if a guy has a belt on his neck or worse yet-multiple belts around his neck that prople are being duped into seeing a "great" champion of yore.Rick Farris wrote:Aragon hated fighting "Hams" . . .
When Art Aragon was the age of Canelo Alvarez, he to had been fighting pro five years.
Art was fighting the likes of Fabela Chavez, John L.Davis, etc. Good fighters, but not yet top rated.
About this time Aragon talks with Hap Navarro, who at the time was doing Publicity for the Hollywood Legion Stadium.
Art complained that he was tired of KOing hams, that he wanted a real fight that would take him to the next level.
Hap consoled young Aragon, and told him he knew that he was being under matched, but there was a process to developing a boxer.
In due course, Aragon would fight the best in the world, and when he did he was ready. The top guys back then were all monsters.
When Art finally got his title shot at Jimmy Carter, he was ready. He had "earned" his title shot.
What is happening today with Canelo is that he is also fighting "hams", the difference being there is a world title on the line.
What crap! As a world champion, his name at 147 pounds must be considered with Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Griffith, McLarnin, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, etc. NOT!![]()
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And they make sure that nobody standing in front of him can punch.kikibalt wrote:Alvarez to defend title at Staples Center
Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will defend his world super-welterweight belt Sept. 17 at Staples Center against former "The Contender" reality-TV fighter Alfonso Gomez, boxing officials said.
Alvarez (37-0-1, 27 KOs) claimed the belt at Anaheim's Honda Center in March, then defended it with a 12th-round technical knockout of Ryan Rhodes in June. The fight against Gomez (23-4-2) will be the main event of the Staples card, and be televised as part of the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Victor Ortiz pay-per-view card from MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Golden Boy Promotions also said former world champion Erik Morales will fight Anthony Crolla in Las Vegas that night.
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When the hell is Alvarez going to fight somebody that is not a human punching bag??....![]()
Gomez is nothing more than a class B fighter, always has been, and always will be....
Rick, "Golden Boy" Aragon would have had too much for these so called champions today..Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:Alvarez to defend title at Staples Center
Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will defend his world super-welterweight belt Sept. 17 at Staples Center against former "The Contender" reality-TV fighter Alfonso Gomez, boxing officials said.
Alvarez (37-0-1, 27 KOs) claimed the belt at Anaheim's Honda Center in March, then defended it with a 12th-round technical knockout of Ryan Rhodes in June. The fight against Gomez (23-4-2) will be the main event of the Staples card, and be televised as part of the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Victor Ortiz pay-per-view card from MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Golden Boy Promotions also said former world champion Erik Morales will fight Anthony Crolla in Las Vegas that night.
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When the hell is Alvarez going to fight somebody that is not a human punching bag??....![]()
Gomez is nothing more than a class B fighter, always has been, and always will be....
This is irritating. They are treating this fighter like he is a baby, some boy wonder?
Mando Ramos was a "Boy Wonder", at 20 Mando was a legitimate world champion, and fighting the best lightweights of a tough era.
Wilfredo Benitez was just 17 when he won the Jr. Welterweight world title. He fought great fighters.
They absolutely do not see the value in allowing a fighter to be challenged. Keep in mind Canelo is not all that young.
He matured young physically, and has been fighting pro a full five years with nearly 40 pro fights under his belt.
He is already in the "veteran catagory".
They are ruining a potentially good fighter. He will never grow, just as 90% of today's boxers do not grow once they show some potemtial of box office appeal. His opposition will keep him on a lower level, and I believe he has already peaked ability wise. From here on he stops learning, that is what young, educated cable TV execs do when they call the shots in boxing.
Everything today must be a fairy tale.
Here is one to think about . . . Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Art "The Golden Boy" Aragon.
Imagine that Art Aragon was a great boxer who just wasn't good enough to win a world title in his era.
Then you have a guy like Canelo parading around with a world championship?
What do you think Aragon woud do with Canelo?![]()
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