should green retire?

[thunderfromdownunder]

i think he should fight on. Maybe fight Cameron then if he wins try for a rematch with tarver? Im sure tarver would give him one, there would be alot of money involved. Another option would be to go back to lhw. Last night there was no catchweight and i think it showed green is no true cruiser. Either way, as much as ive been critical of him lately i think Australian boxing still needs him. No one gives a shit about mundine anymore and geale still isnt well known enough to be the main draw. Opinions...

[buster007]

no

[JSA]

think Cameron is the fight.Now that he has bulked up(and doesnt look a natural crusier despite that)is he gonna struggle losing the weight to get to LHW? Camerons power could be a risk though Green will not likely get caught as he did vs Tarver.
Honestly think a Tarver rematch would be bad.

[crusader]

I don't think Green should go out on such a bad loss. He won't be able to defeat the big boys of the division, but he would still beat Cameron without many problems, and that's a fight that people have been talking about for a while.

[dan h]

NO - But he should get a new trainer. H was crap in the corner last night.

Since when did Danny become a counter puncher that sit back on the ropes?

[Trent]

I think he should retire. He tried to win super middle and controversially came up short. He won the LHW title (sadly retiring and giving it up, he should have defended this a few times) Now at Cruiser I can't see him competing at the top level. I don't see a point in him fighting Cameron (who I think due to his size will give Green a tough hard fight).

He has done all he can, giving us fans some great fights, and has some achievements to his name. In the world of boxing, if you're past your best, I think it's time to retire, especially at 38 years old.

[Beltane]

I recommend that Danny hang up the gloves. He has nothing left to prove and has been a deserved champion but he cannot sustain another beating like that!

Danny can still fulfill a positive role in boxing via promoting, training, mentoring but not in the ring.

[thunderfromdownunder]

really Thats the only beating he's ever taken. Mundine and beyer never really hurt him. He's got 2 or so fights left in him. Remember after he beat Flores alot of people were saying its the best he's ever looked

[Beltane]

Since the Flores fight, Danny in January '11 had an inflamed appendix and cyst the size of a cricket ball, described by a medico as "pus filled" and was said to have blocked his pelvic cavity, which in turn compressed and occluded his bowel.

An operation was required when doctors feared that either his appendix or the cyst could rupture and place him, at risk of being exposed to septicemia, a potentially fatal bacteria which is spread via the bloodstream. Septicemia claimed the life of the great Australian boxer Les Darcy in 1917, when the 21-year-old was on the verge of contesting title fights in the United States.

I feel that the fallout from this operation hampered Danny as he was grimacing from Tarver's body shots and he seemed tentative to mix it up with Tarver (except for one round when he worried Tarver), preferring to hang back on the ropes and let tarver control the ring. Possibly in the back of his mind, Danny felt uneasy about a perceived weakness in his lower body caused by the operation.

No need to go on and fight Cameron, you have paid your dues, lost no respect and a productive retirement awaits. As they say in the classics: One door shuts and another opens!

[hearns]

really Thats the only beating he's ever taken. Mundine and beyer never really hurt him. He's got 2 or so fights left in him. Remember after he beat Flores alot of people were saying its the best he's ever looked

Thunder, Mundine and Beyer were hardly power hitters and that was at 168,for that matter Tarver had'nt stopped a credible opponent in 7 years. If that 9th round had lasted 30 seconds longer we would'nt be having this discussion. Last night was really the first time Danny has been tested by a Lt.Heavy/cruiser with a half decent punch and we seen the result. Any top tier cruiser will do Danny serious damage imo.

[buster007]

beltane,

sorry, but that makes no sense.

so he decided to go on the ropes and let tarver tee off on him at will for 12 rounds? lol.

whe danny threw some damn punches, tarver looked like he'd need a miracle to stay on his feet.

but for some reason green decided not to throw punches for most of the fight. too fishy imo.

[Brute]

I think he should retire. He tried to win super middle and controversially came up short. He won the LHW title (sadly retiring and giving it up, he should have defended this a few times) Now at Cruiser I can't see him competing at the top level. I don't see a point in him fighting Cameron (who I think due to his size will give Green a tough hard fight).

He has done all he can, giving us fans some great fights, and has some achievements to his name. In the world of boxing, if you're past your best, I think it's time to retire, especially at 38 years old.

He has lost four fights and they have all been to world champions. Cameron is not in Green's class. Have a look at Tarver's record and see what a hard opponent green was in against. What would you know?

[thunderfromdownunder]

really Thats the only beating he's ever taken. Mundine and beyer never really hurt him. He's got 2 or so fights left in him. Remember after he beat Flores alot of people were saying its the best he's ever looked

Thunder, Mundine and Beyer were hardly power hitters and that was at 168,for that matter Tarver had'nt stopped a credible opponent in 7 years. If that 9th round had lasted 30 seconds longer we would'nt be having this discussion. Last night was really the first time Danny has been tested by a Lt.Heavy/cruiser with a half decent punch and we seen the result. Any top tier cruiser will do Danny serious damage imo.

i understand what your trying to say but what i was trying to get across is that was the only fight were Danny has taken real punishment, were not talkin about mikey ward here. Also tarvers resume over the last seven years has some good names on it, Dawson, Hopkins, Jones johnson ect so its hardly suprising that he hasnt had a great deal of stoppages. I still think Danny has something to offer

[hearns]

Fair enough, I think Danny has enough good people around him to arrive at the right decision. The temptation for him to go out on a better note will come into play, but i really don't think he owes his fans anything more. Considering he has already retired once i doubt if he will fight on.

[buster007]

one loss in years, and the world has ended for green, lol.

he may not be young and has plenty of cash to enjoy retirement, but he has plenty to offer if he fights on.

[N2 Shape]

Retirement fight in Perth and call it a day and stay RETIRED! Tarver will beat Danny worse in a rematch IMO. I think he deserves a retirement fight in his hometown and it'll be a big event being his LAST fight options are

Shane Cameron - Been talked about for a while now, good tough fight for both certainly a winnable one for Danny but wont be easy, but a chance to go out as a winner and possibly Commonwealth Champion.

Pieter Cronje - I know both guys have done alot of work together sparring etc but would be a local fight against to WA boys, Cronje has looked good since dropping to Cruiser albeit against limited opposition. Genuine big Cruiser would provide Danny with plenty of challenges!

Brian Minto - A reasonably well known fighter, tough and always in good hard fights another heavyweight dropping to cruiser comming off a win over sometimes aussie based Pierre Karam. Would provide a good old fashioned dust up much in the same mould as a potential Cameron fight.

Firat Arslan - Former WBA Cruiserweight World Champ, well known internationally although now on the decline and at 40 similar age to Green and is probably looking for a nice packet himself! Another tough fighter but my only concern is hes southpaw which as we all know Green has had troubles with! Would be a good win to end on though.

Silvio Branco - Italian ring legend former World Champ, would get the Italian community which i believe is strong in perth behind him correct me if im wrong? At 44 another older guy probably looking for a packet but would give Danny a good fight and another guy which it wouldnt be a disgrace to finish with.

Tried looking for guys that make sense in some way, dont think a scrub would be the best way to go needs ot be a live body still but someone who Danny should be able to beat and then go out on a good win not a win over a overweight Thai welterweight

Thoughtsa?

[scottearley123456]

didnt you guys here green in the corner after he took that first massive blow that took him back to the ropes. he was shaken from then in and didnt settle at all. green has never been effected by a blow like that before hes only been knocked fown once before and there was nothing in that. he was open to tarvers shots all night but I think he was still seeing stars after that first hit thats why he was on the ropes. had he not been stung dont you think he would have at least put up a fight? just cant believe he was still on his feet by the ninth round he took a bucket load of punishment. he is one tough dude. also tarver was the best ive ever seen him and would give any of the other cw champs a dam good go. green still has it in him to win another title at cw and is still the big money at cw so theres no reason it couldnt happen

[whyohbee]

didnt you guys here green in the corner after he took that first massive blow that took him back to the ropes. he was shaken from then in and didnt settle at all. green has never been effected by a blow like that before hes only been knocked fown once before and there was nothing in that. he was open to tarvers shots all night but I think he was still seeing stars after that first hit thats why he was on the ropes. had he not been stung dont you think he would have at least put up a fight? just cant believe he was still on his feet by the ninth round he took a bucket load of punishment. he is one tough dude. also tarver was the best ive ever seen him and would give any of the other cw champs a dam good go. green still has it in him to win another title at cw and is still the big money at cw so theres no reason it couldnt happen

I too woke up this morning wondering about what if Green hadn't worn that early blow, which clearly rocked him. To think that it took until round 7 for him to wake up to the fight and then be out of puff by the 9th and have the fight stopped definitely leaves me feeling that a rematch could see a totally different result.

I for one was very concerned upon noticing that Green continually failed to take Tarvers left out of the fight. Continual movement was the key and trying to get those body shots that did open Tarver up in the 7th were going to be the only way he'd get a chance at knocking him out. Getting stuck on the ropes caused alot of unecessary damage and with the right game plan next time round I wouldn't be surprised if Green could knock Tarver out. Which makes me wonder if there is a trilogy on the cards ;) haha

Green's mindset was rocked and damaged from the Get go and nobody would have recovered from the power explosion that just about sent him through the ropes in the first round.

He is a champ, a proud fighter and he will fight again. Rematch clauses aside, why wouldn't you take Tarver on again... He truly has nothing to lose now.

[Hounddawg]

NO.

I do think the Camron fight makes sense now, and it's a commonwealth belt to fight for, you can see that Cameron is easy to hit which plays into Greens hands being the heavy hitter.

I'm shocked to see this as a topic, and it's trully amazing to see so many turn coats. The bloke got beat by a fantastic looking Antonio Tarver, and i as many believe that first blow/forearm did a bit of damage, and the KD in round 2 took his confidence.

What i saw wrong with Green was the explosion in the first 2 minutes, the afore mentioned punch, him allowing or not being allowed to shorten the distance when launching his tirade and becoming supceptive to that uppercut, cross while leaning in. He retreated and tried to beat 1 of the best boxers in the last 10 years at his own game despite having all the attributes in his opponents favor, and allowed a man to find his distance and jab and pummell him for 6 rounds, he came out with the same game plan as the first round and gives Tarver some serious problems rocking him twice and then returns to the please hit me very hard again on the ropes approach in round 8,.......eventually that style, against that good of fighter will cause premature death.

I've never seen Danny fight like that since Mundine, he looked angry and frustrated from the opening bell, and got beat in a master class by Tarver, who my hat go's off to.

In a way Australian boxing needed this, because theres been a mixed bag with Green over the years and by far now Australia's biggest draw for Boxing events.
People have honestly at times started referring to boxing as a bit of a wrestling sport, a scripted sport, and no one was reading that script last night until the bell sounded.
Am i crazy and think Green can actually beat Tarver in a rematch.........yes, and by Knockout, but it's back to school and 2 tough leadup fights and then the rematch.

I also agree with those who say "what if" Danny didn't get rocked, he's been down once while clearly being of balanced. And i don't know if he was exactly 100 %, H"s comments after round 1 were "I know you're not 100%, and then Tarver about the rematch "Danny's got to get healthy first".

[thunderfromdownunder]

reports in today Canberra times suggest he will fight on, which is good

[amwsnw]

After watching the fight live i thought it may be worth danny retirng. But after watching the replay I think he has many things to improve on, which he can, to continue fighting on very succesfully. I appreciate his age but he has a rematch clause and should take it. I thought there was much desent in his corner amongst trainer, corner men etc. Just a feeling I got. I am no trainer and do not profess to be, but IMO Hyder needs to start telling Danny how to win fights, not merely try to motivate him.

[Beltane]

Despite going into the fight with two broken ribs - suffered during a sparring session - Green said the injury and his burst appendix scare back in January had "absolutely no impact" on the shock stoppage after nine rounds.

The West Australian was also unsure about retirement, rematches or what hit he may have taken financially after the event attracted roughly 7000 fans and 30,000 pay-per-views.

The above was reported in today's Telegraph.

Paragraph 1 is interesting as Danny was NOT fit (which Tarver mentioned after the fight) when entering the ring and explains his tentative display. Paragraph 2 indicates Green Prommotions may have taken a financial hit as getting Tarver to our shores proved costly to Danny in more ways than one.

Football teams cannot carry an injured passenger into a match, eventually get found out on the scoreboard. Going into a fight, carrying an injury, left Danny cruelly exposed along with the spectactors and pay-for-view audience who paid out big bucks to watch.

[NazNaci1]

Maybe not retire but its getting harder and harder to fight at the level that he wants.

As long as he avoids people like Lebedev, he can still do a job.

Lebedev would seriously hurt him.

[amwsnw]

Im not sold on Lebedev, but in Green fought him with broken ribs then yes he would probably beat him.
Are the articles saying he suffered broken ribs and they have healed or not ??
Broken ribs like most breaks come with different severity, but to go into a bout with a "broken" rib is ludicrous and almost unbelieveable.
The ppv numbers surprise me. Those I spoke with on both sides of the country showed great interest.

[Hounddawg]

After watching the fight live i thought it may be worth danny retirng. But after watching the replay I think he has many things to improve on, which he can, to continue fighting on very succesfully. I appreciate his age but he has a rematch clause and should take it. I thought there was much desent in his corner amongst trainer, corner men etc. Just a feeling I got. I am no trainer and do not profess to be, but IMO Hyder needs to start telling Danny how to win fights, not merely try to motivate him.

Yeah the Bob Mirovic slaps are pathetic and rather elementry.

I'm gutted about Greeny, absolutely gutted, I hope he plans to comeback and fix his mistakes.