Amir Khan, is Primetime a mistake?

[Big-Beryl]

He deserves everything he's getting. I like him as a boxer but I feel he's going the same way as Prince Naseem, letting the family take over the business side. It will end in tears.

[bfchunk]

This is a big mistake. Khan was lucky last time by 3 things that do not apply now, McCloskey's support and buys, Sky's promotion before it was pulled and the time of the fight.

It's not a bad fight but usually being a sucker for most PPV's I'm doubting if I will be bothered with this.

Now he is saying he is by far the best pound for pound fighter in the UK....

Tit

[freddydoesdallas]

Huge mistake, i'm pretty much the only boxing fan at work and normally if the big names are fighting i'm quizzed on it but nobody has mentioned anything. If i told them that Khan was fighting i think most would be shocked

[stevek3lly]

I have not even been that interested in this fight myself. I like more options for boxing on TV, but look at what happened to Carl Froch (who is Brtains best boxer by the way and not Khan as he has been shouting his mouth off about) he proved that Primetime wasn't the best platform for him and Khan is going to be in the same boat.

None boxing fans aren't even aware this is happening as well, so he is already losing support from it.

[Scottrf]

Your title question has the opposite answer to your poll question, and could lead to skewed results.

[stevek3lly]

Huge mistake, i'm pretty much the only boxing fan at work and normally if the big names are fighting i'm quizzed on it but nobody has mentioned anything. If i told them that Khan was fighting i think most would be shocked

i know BOXING MONTHLY stuck it on the front cover and i imagine Boxing News will do the same tomorrow as they should do as it is a quality fight. But after reading the BM piece with the man behind Primetime this month it seems that they work on very low over heads which according to them only needed 5000 buys to make money. Now i'm sure that figure will be higher for this fight but their lack of marketing has been a shocker

I have received 2 phonecalls from a recorded message from Amir Khan telling me about this and how to order. Not sure how many people have done this, but they obviously have my details from the last order I placed.

[jamielaststand2011]

Huge mistake, i'm pretty much the only boxing fan at work and normally if the big names are fighting i'm quizzed on it but nobody has mentioned anything. If i told them that Khan was fighting i think most would be shocked

The same mate, people have asked about the Chisora Vs Fury fight but no mention of the Khan fight. Without the Sky push he simply won't get the coverage.

[smcb80]

Ringside are previewing the fight on tonight's show

[Crease]

No, though Sky can be a bunch of cunts, for a British fighter they are the best route to go down, because they will get more exposure.

On a closely related topic, it is not an accident that when Sky fell out with Amir Kahn, they picked up Carl Froch.


It is a real pity and a shame that Sky couldn't support Kahn, Froch, Haye, Burns and Cleverly equally...
Even Kell Brook has been picked up by Sky.

[greenyox3]

Hopefully the PPV numbers will flop on this, just so GBP/Khan get the point.

I'd hope that Sky would have rejected this fight as a PPV aswell, given the quality of the undercard (or lack thereof)

[greenyox3]

Now he is saying he is by far the best pound for pound fighter in the UK....

Tit

"Tit" was one of the many words that came into my head when i heard this quote from Khan, none of them nice. Is he just trying to piss Froch off or what? Especially as he said "I think all the other British fighters know this". And they were supposed to have patched up their differences recently.

[Crease]

Now he is saying he is by far the best pound for pound fighter in the UK

This show a distinct lack of class from Khan... We all know that he is a talented boxer, we don't need to be told it by him.
At least the likes of Muhammad Ali and Prince Naz were funny when they were "bigging up" themselves.

And Khan wonders why some people don't like him much.


Maybe if Amir apologised to Sky and agreed that his next 3 fights should be on Sky Sports One, so the viewing public could watch it for free (without paying the extortionate £15 amount).... Maybe then he would gain good public favour.

The kid hasn't that he keeps "cashing in" on his World Championship success, he expects people to pay it and then wonders why some people don't like him. It's not rocket science.

[robster]

Your title question has the opposite answer to your poll question, and could lead to skewed results.

Agreed! I read the title, then hit the yes button

[exittored]

Now he is saying he is by far the best pound for pound fighter in the UK

This show a distinct lack of class from Khan... We all know that he is a talented boxer, we don't need to be told it by him.
At least the likes of Muhammad Ali and Prince Naz were funny when they were "bigging up" themselves.

And Khan wonders why some people don't like him much.


Maybe if Amir apologised to Sky and agreed that his next 3 fights should be on Sky Sports One, so the viewing public could watch it for free (without paying the extortionate £15 amount).... Maybe then he would gain good public favour.

The kid hasn't that he keeps "cashing in" on his World Championship success, he expects people to pay it and then wonders why some people don't like him. It's not rocket science.

Damn i'm not just picking your message but pretty much all the messages on here.

Boxing fans can be irrational sometimes, why are people getting their knickers in a twist if Khan dosen't want to do business with Sky sports anymore thats what i want to know! Good on him for not being disrespected and pushed around but rather standing his ground and going somewhere else.

It's not about the money with Khan but doing whats best for British Boxing and part of making the deal with Primetime also included the fact that Channel 5 would get into Boxing and use that to help advertise the Khan vs Judah fight. Just as Khan insisted his fights starting out would be on Terrestial tv he has now helped Boxing come back on there again. You have to remember that had Sky given him more notice they weren't showing the McCloskey fight he would have given it to ITV for next to nothing as they were offered it on ITV1 but there was already something on at the time yet people on here are nothing but negative...if you don't want pay for it then fine, don't help Primetime/channel 5 become a new outlet for British Boxing and put all your hopes into Sky.

Well done Khan i say.

[Crease]

It's not about the money with Khan but doing whats best for British Boxing and part of making the deal with Primetime also included the fact that Channel 5 would get into Boxing and use that to help advertise the Khan vs Judah fight. Just as Khan insisted his fights starting out would be on Terrestial tv he has now helped Boxing come back on there again.

The reason why he started out on terrestial television was because he needed exposure ot build up his fanbase. If he didn't take that route, he would just be another amateur who was turning professional.

If its really "not about money" as you say, I am sure Amir would not mind having the remainder of his fights on terrestial television so that ALL the public could enjoy his success.
And I bet you, that you won't find that happening...

Wise up man.

[exittored]

It's not about the money with Khan but doing whats best for British Boxing and part of making the deal with Primetime also included the fact that Channel 5 would get into Boxing and use that to help advertise the Khan vs Judah fight. Just as Khan insisted his fights starting out would be on Terrestial tv he has now helped Boxing come back on there again.

The reason why he started out on terrestial television was because he needed exposure ot build up his fanbase. If he didn't take that route, he would just be another amateur who was turning professional.

If its really "not about money" as you say, I am sure Amir would not mind having the remainder of his fights on terrestial television so that ALL the public could enjoy his success.
And I bet you, that you won't find that happening...

Wise up man.

No you wise up.

Are you kidding about him being just another amateur turning pro? he was watched by 5/6 million during the Olympics so his public persona was already massive even before he turned pro. He could have gone to Sky at the start of his career and probably got a better deal if he wanted to but chose to be seen by more fans on ITV1 rather then take the Ricky Hatton route of having a career exclusively on Sky.

Well he gave away the Paulie Maligianni fight for free on ITV1 and would have done the same with the McCloskey fight too if ITV1 had room in their schedule which they didn't.

Give Khan and his team credit for helping to get Boxing back on Terrestial TV, if you don't want to pay for the Primetime fight then fair enough just don't moan about it or act like Khan isn't helping the availability of Boxing in this country when he clearly is.

If Khan had stayed with SKY, there would be no CHANNEL 5 live boxing on saturday so a big thankyou to Amir for that alone.

[greenyox3]

. Just as Khan insisted his fights starting out would be on Terrestial tv he has now helped Boxing come back on there again. .

He "insisted" that his early fights would be on terrestrial tv? Or did his promoter at the time just happen to have a TV deal with a terrestrial TV channel? And as I remember it, his 1st fight after thar deal expired was on...yup, PPV. And that wasn't even a world title fight! So I'm not sure you can exactly credit him with bringing British boxing back to the mainstream.

[lefthook82]

Sky dumped him

[exittored]

. Just as Khan insisted his fights starting out would be on Terrestial tv he has now helped Boxing come back on there again. .

He "insisted" that his early fights would be on terrestrial tv? Or did his promoter at the time just happen to have a TV deal with a terrestrial TV channel? And as I remember it, his 1st fight after thar deal expired was on...yup, PPV. And that wasn't even a world title fight! So I'm not sure you can exactly credit him with bringing British boxing back to the mainstream.

No because part of Khan signing to warren was that he had a tv deal. From the ITV1 deal ran out with Warren i remember talk that ITV wanting to keep showing Khan fights and dropping the rest of Warrens fighters but obviously a deal couldn't be worked out. I can imagine the deal Warren got offered by Sky when he rejoined them was a pretty lowball deal as they knew they were the only player in town for him as he'd burnt his bridges with everyone else so Khan was probably on a massive reduction money wise to be on normal sky from what he was getting on ITV1 per fight so they did the PPV which was obviously a massive mistake and the low PPV's buys were part of the split with Warren.

Just to add i'm absolutely against the principal of PPV's and think it's been nothing but bad news for the popularity of boxing both in this country but worldwide.

Having said that unlike the Warren and Hayes recent PPV's that haven't benefited British Boxing beyond the fights themselves, at least the Khan PPV is doing some good and helped to bring British Boxing back to Terrestial TV in a round about way so just for that going to Primetime is fine with me and hopefully Channel 5/Primetime will get good Viewing/PPV's figures on saturday and they will decide to really put both feet into boxing rather then just dipping their toe in at the moment.

[Crease]

Are you kidding about him being just another amateur turning pro? he was watched by 5/6 million during the Olympics so his public persona was already massive even before he turned pro.

No, I am not kidding. And none of that matters, because it is very easy for a boxer to slip in to obscurity (which in turn, affects the pay package that the boxer receives). Which is the real reason why he wanted to stay in the public soptlight, to build up a fanbase.
Khan was a successful amateur boxer, but amateur success does not guarantee professional success.
I could bring up numerous examples, Audley Harrison for one, who gloried in being a an Olympic Champion.

Well he gave away the Paulie Maligianni fight for free on ITV1 and would have done the same with the McCloskey fight too if ITV1 had room in their schedule which they didn't.

You are now giving Khan credit for things that he did not do. Dear me, you really are clutching at straws now, aren't you?

Give Khan and his team credit for helping to get Boxing back on Terrestial TV, if you don't want to pay for the Primetime fight then fair enough just don't moan about it or act like Khan isn't helping the availability of Boxing in this country when he clearly is.

No he isn't. You are now presenting your opinions forward as facts... They aren't. In his last fight against McCloskey, Khan called it his "homecoming fight" and he repeatedly said that he was: "doing it for the fans".

If that is true, then why didn't Khan ensure that his fight be shown on terrestial television (I'm sure at least 1 of the channels would have picked it up) instead of hastily rearranging the fight to be on a different Pay-Per-View when GoldenBoy disputed with Sky TV.
The sad truth is: Khan cashed in
And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out.

[LeedsLad]

^^^

A bit like Hatton's ''for the fans, homecoming etc'' that was on Sky Box Office.

They must think people are bloody daft.

[leforge]

Apart from boxing news I not seen one advert for this fight! Has this been promoted well?

[leforge]

Advert on talksport at last some signing of pushing the fight1

[greenyox3]

Primetime have been showing a lot of free-to-air stuff to build it up, but that's not much use if no-one knows the fight's on there in the first place!

[mchuffy]

The Primetime e-mail actually states this fight as 23rd of july at 01:00......well done Primetime, well done.