Face off between Mayweather and Ortiz................Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIaQD4QJhso
Quixall wrote:Thought you guys would be interested in seeing this if you haven't already
Face off between Mayweather and Ortiz................EnjoyDD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIaQD4QJhso
Cheers John, i will look now mateJon Saxon wrote:Quixall wrote:Thought you guys would be interested in seeing this if you haven't already
Face off between Mayweather and Ortiz................EnjoyDD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIaQD4QJhso
watched it loved it, hope Ortiz punches his smug "face off"!!
You have a PM btw
I dont think that a lose will be a serious problem for Ortiz in this fight, because most people are expecting that to happen. Like you say, he will have a right go at Mayweather, but i see him looking a little silly and being frozen like Shane was due to Mayweathers movement.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Ortiz looks quietly confident.....loved his reply as to how he beat Berto with ok power and decent speed....."I'm a badass."
I don't think Ortiz will win this, Mayweather is a couple of levels above Berto, but he will give a real go. Unless Mayweather has suddenly faded, it's his to lose.
I disagree slightly. Sure, Mayweather often talks about how 'its going to be a war' etc, and it always ends up a tactical fight, but to give him his due he said he'd take it to Mosley and thats what he did IMO. Mayweather will never again throw punches in bunches like he did in his younger years, but i do think he will be looking to press forward against Ortiz and force the action.Carbo wrote:Second, Floyd is delusional. Every single fight, he talks about being right there, coming forward, going toe-to-toe. He never does. He's more than capable of fighting, Toney style, in the pocket. But he never does. I don't mind him not. I appreciate all types of boxing, but why does he make it up? I can understand him doing it for promotional purposes, but he tries to rewrite the history of past fights, too. The guy is so full of crap that he could double as a cess tank for the MGM Grand.
I bet that he'll spend the first five rounds on the move. Mayweather does it sometimes when an opponent backs away in an attempt to draw him in. Against anyone else, especially pressure fighters, he'll be on his bike for the first five, before breaking him down, attacking more in the third quarter, and then coasting to the win.ALI wrote:I disagree slightly. Sure, Mayweather often talks about how 'its going to be a war' etc, and it always ends up a tactical fight, but to give him his due he said he'd take it to Mosley and thats what he did IMO. Mayweather will never again throw punches in bunches like he did in his younger years, but i do think he will be looking to press forward against Ortiz and force the action.Carbo wrote:Second, Floyd is delusional. Every single fight, he talks about being right there, coming forward, going toe-to-toe. He never does. He's more than capable of fighting, Toney style, in the pocket. But he never does. I don't mind him not. I appreciate all types of boxing, but why does he make it up? I can understand him doing it for promotional purposes, but he tries to rewrite the history of past fights, too. The guy is so full of crap that he could double as a cess tank for the MGM Grand.
It wont be a war, it will be tactical as it always is with him, but i anticipate Mayweather to keep his word and press the action, the same as he did with Mosley.
Floyd always seems to come off best in the face offs.............dbf wrote:thought they both came across well. Floyd is better like this, assured in his abilities and not being a dick to his opponent.
This could be a good fight and I like Ortiz's confidence.
Has to be Pac man after this.
At the moment i'm thinking Ortiz is made to measure for Mayweather. My early thoughts for this fight is that he will stand his ground a la Mosley and that we'll see him start to break Ortiz down early on in the fight.Carbo wrote:I bet that he'll spend the first five rounds on the move. Mayweather does it sometimes when an opponent backs away in an attempt to draw him in. Against anyone else, especially pressure fighters, he'll be on his bike for the first five, before breaking him down, attacking more in the third quarter, and then coasting to the win.ALI wrote:I disagree slightly. Sure, Mayweather often talks about how 'its going to be a war' etc, and it always ends up a tactical fight, but to give him his due he said he'd take it to Mosley and thats what he did IMO. Mayweather will never again throw punches in bunches like he did in his younger years, but i do think he will be looking to press forward against Ortiz and force the action.Carbo wrote:Second, Floyd is delusional. Every single fight, he talks about being right there, coming forward, going toe-to-toe. He never does. He's more than capable of fighting, Toney style, in the pocket. But he never does. I don't mind him not. I appreciate all types of boxing, but why does he make it up? I can understand him doing it for promotional purposes, but he tries to rewrite the history of past fights, too. The guy is so full of crap that he could double as a cess tank for the MGM Grand.
It wont be a war, it will be tactical as it always is with him, but i anticipate Mayweather to keep his word and press the action, the same as he did with Mosley.
I know what you mean but quite a few fighters I've talked to aren't bothered about watching a lot of their opponent. I remember Mayweather also saying in an interview that he doesn't watch tapes, he just works them out and adapts in the ring. Whether it was true or not, I don't know but I think it could be compared to a lot of footballers not being football experts and playing to their instincts.Carbo wrote:Is it me, or is Max Kellerman a ludicrous character? His introduction to that was preposterous.
The interview? I like Victor Ortiz. Good guy; looks focused. It's worrying that he admits that he has no idea how to beat Floyd. I'd have thought that fighters watch fighters and they have ideas of what they'd do with this style, or how they'd beat this guy, or what they'd do to counter such and such a move. Victor seemed to genuinely have no idea.
Agree 100%. His fight with Berto was a real barnburner, and that was in large part due to his aggression and the pace at which he fought. But it's easy to forget how close Berto was to getting him out of there in, I think, the eighth. He caugh Ortiz early, and had him on extremely wobbly legs for around 2 minutes of the round. Ortiz was literally one decent punch away from going. Then, with about 15 seconds left, he caught Berto with a southpaw right hook spot on the point of the chin, as Berto was lunging, looking for the KO, and shifted the tide. Berto looked as if he didn't come into that fight expecting much, and when Ortiz fought like a wild man and knocked him down twice in the first, he couldn't recover. Ortiz definitely had Berto in the more consistent trouble. He also deserved the win. But that doesn't change the fact that Ortiz was down multiple times himself and was the closest to being knocked out in the fight.ALI wrote:At the moment i'm thinking Ortiz is made to measure for Mayweather. My early thoughts for this fight is that he will stand his ground a la Mosley and that we'll see him start to break Ortiz down early on in the fight.Carbo wrote:I bet that he'll spend the first five rounds on the move. Mayweather does it sometimes when an opponent backs away in an attempt to draw him in. Against anyone else, especially pressure fighters, he'll be on his bike for the first five, before breaking him down, attacking more in the third quarter, and then coasting to the win.ALI wrote: I disagree slightly. Sure, Mayweather often talks about how 'its going to be a war' etc, and it always ends up a tactical fight, but to give him his due he said he'd take it to Mosley and thats what he did IMO. Mayweather will never again throw punches in bunches like he did in his younger years, but i do think he will be looking to press forward against Ortiz and force the action.
It wont be a war, it will be tactical as it always is with him, but i anticipate Mayweather to keep his word and press the action, the same as he did with Mosley.
If it is then Floyd should get Props that such a Victory & showing would Merit, because Ortiz is young, strong, bigger than Floyd, & is in the best form of his career!observer1 wrote:Could be another Mayweather Gatti imo
Why do people somehow think that Floyd is going to be much smaller? Ortiz was fighting at 140 one fight ago, and Floyd couldn't even make 146 against Marquez. He might be a bit smaller, but it's not going to be anything like, say, Pacquiao against DLH.Rocky Balboa wrote:If it is then Floyd should get Props that such a Victory & showing would Merit, because Ortiz is young, strong, bigger than Floyd, & is in the best form of his career!observer1 wrote:Could be another Mayweather Gatti imo