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[Jon Saxon]

I don't give two fcuks if someone threatens me on a forum,cause what does it actually mean ? nothing ?
IMO Jon with all due respect Not a very manly thing going squealing to mods,grassing to get someone banned over something so childish ....get over it or your will be grassin/telling tales all your life

You dont get it do you?

This isn't about being a man, this is about harmony and making this place better so that this type of stuff is stopped as quick as it happens.
I like boxrec there are some really nice people on here (yourself included) but I honstly hate the internet for threats no matter how trivial they are, we as a race have to try to go upwards an forwards and we must stop anyone from doing this anytime we can.

This person MUST be banned.

Why? because there is an excuse for everything but sometimes we must do the right thing.

[crusader]

I don't give two fcuks if someone threatens me on a forum,cause what does it actually mean ? nothing ?
IMO Jon with all due respect Not a very manly thing going squealing to mods,grassing to get someone banned over something so childish ....get over it or your will be grassin/telling tales all your life

You dont get it do you?

This isn't about being a man, this is about harmony and making this place better so that this type of stuff is stopped as quick as it happens.
I like boxrec there are some really nice people on here (yourself included) but I honstly hate the internet for threats no matter how trivial they are, we as a race have to try to go upwards an forwards and we must stop anyone from doing this anytime we can.

This person MUST be banned.

Why? because there is an excuse for everything but sometimes we must do the right thing.

You're really taking that PM seriously

[Jon Saxon]

I don't give two fcuks if someone threatens me on a forum,cause what does it actually mean ? nothing ?
IMO Jon with all due respect Not a very manly thing going squealing to mods,grassing to get someone banned over something so childish ....get over it or your will be grassin/telling tales all your life

You dont get it do you?

This isn't about being a man, this is about harmony and making this place better so that this type of stuff is stopped as quick as it happens.
I like boxrec there are some really nice people on here (yourself included) but I honstly hate the internet for threats no matter how trivial they are, we as a race have to try to go upwards an forwards and we must stop anyone from doing this anytime we can.

This person MUST be banned.

Why? because there is an excuse for everything but sometimes we must do the right thing.

You're really taking that PM seriously

Yes like you I'm a "crusader"

[Scottrf]

we as a race have to try to go upwards an forwards and we must stop anyone from doing this anytime we can.

Great quote, congratulations.

[Jon Saxon]

You comment on my writing all you like. If you don't want to engage in dialogue, it might be best not to post on forums which are created for that very purpose.

A lot of work goes into the site and you're implying that the people running it have some sort of agenda against transparency or run it in such a manner that makes posters 'dilute' their offerings. This is offensive to those involved so don't expect to be given a pass on it.

I'm not saying your postS are sh1te, just the one I quoted.

You might not believe it to be true but the lad is a mate of mine, a solicitor, a lovely lad and just trains at Wincobank for fitness. Up to you, of course, to reject the offer and I completely understand why you did...but to intimate there's something unsavoury about it is simply out of order, IMO. A shame you have taken it the wrong way.

Now, if this cakes chap offers to take you somewhere, I could see your point

Right Ian lets put your honesty to the test then shall we?

Seeing as you have just explained that your mate trains at the Ingles and as a result YOU this may mean that you know also might them or spke to them also then I have a question for you.....


Do you agree that there was/is a perception the media over the years that the Brenden Ingle hands down style is seen to be flawed?
A yes or no will suffice.

Show me your integrity man, the response will me and anyone reading it all we need to know.

[addi]

aside all the other stuff the post was about the wincobank style now i'm not that keen on that style myself with the exception of herrol graham and hamed who both were top top fighters and in lots of good fights and really understud the switch hitting style,if your right handed then fight southpaw so your jabs your best punch is also part of it and of course elusiveness, but the list of champions that have come out of that gym is pretty impresive and obviously it works, allthough not everyones cup of tea. speaking of which i'm of for a brew and some cake.

[Jon Saxon]

aside all the other stuff the post was about the wincobank style now i'm not that keen on that style myself with the exception of herrol graham and hamed who both were top top fighters and in lots of good fights and really understud the switch hitting style,if your right handed then fight southpaw so your jabs your best punch is also part of it and of course elusiveness, but the list of champions that have come out of that gym is pretty impresive and obviously it works, allthough not everyones cup of tea. speaking of which i'm of for a brew and some cake.

My point was mate that at the highest (and by highest level) the style gets found out (Hamed v Barrera, Graham v McCallum, Kalumby) and no one on here had the bottle to say what others in the media (Like Barry McQuigan, Ian Darke, Larry Merchant, Colin heart etc etc all said that the lack of pure technique would get found out)

So when Ian gets all uppity regarding my questions of the forums agenda I will always be able to point to this post as an example of no one stepping up and backing up the truth for fear of upsseting a bunch of friends and proffesional acquaintances.

[DougieC30]

What have I missed??

[Scottrf]

What have I missed??

Cakes is trying to bring us down as a race, and Jon can not, and will not, let that happen.

There are imperatives in this world, and the need to fight those injustices plaguing this earth such as keyboard warrioring, are chief among them.

We cannot stay silent on this issue any longer, I ask you all to rise in the name of humanity.

[dondada]

You comment on my writing all you like. If you don't want to engage in dialogue, it might be best not to post on forums which are created for that very purpose.

A lot of work goes into the site and you're implying that the people running it have some sort of agenda against transparency or run it in such a manner that makes posters 'dilute' their offerings. This is offensive to those involved so don't expect to be given a pass on it.

I'm not saying your postS are sh1te, just the one I quoted.

You might not believe it to be true but the lad is a mate of mine, a solicitor, a lovely lad and just trains at Wincobank for fitness. Up to you, of course, to reject the offer and I completely understand why you did...but to intimate there's something unsavoury about it is simply out of order, IMO. A shame you have taken it the wrong way.

Now, if this cakes chap offers to take you somewhere, I could see your point

Right Ian lets put your honesty to the test then shall we?

Seeing as you have just explained that your mate trains at the Ingles and as a result YOU this may mean that you know also might them or spke to them also then I have a question for you.....


Do you agree that there was/is a perception the media over the years that the Brenden Ingle hands down style is seen to be flawed?
A yes or no will suffice.

Show me your integrity man, the response will me and anyone reading it all we need to know.

Yes.

Quite clearly.

From memory, I think some posters were saying things like:

- they've got a good record of producing champs
- every style has its flaws, etc

[dondada]

What have I missed??

Cakes is trying to bring us down as a race, and Jon can not, and will not, let that happen.

There are imperatives in this world, and the need to fight those injustices plaguing this earth such as keyboard warrioring, are chief among them.

We cannot stay silent on this issue any longer, I ask you all to rise in the name of humanity.

[taffytoon]

Jon you have to understand that a lot if not all mods on here are in some ways connected with grass roots boxing, that could be writing or officiating small hall shows. Give them a chance to go through the many posts on here that have been made in their absence. As for bullying I also hate it and experienced it on this forum because I dare have a different opinion on a fighter who posts on here, that said mate you do have to realise this is not real life and most of what is said is just a plonker winding people up. Don't take a PM to heart buddy, as for the site as a whole it really is one of the better ones buddy.

[Deserter]

aside all the other stuff the post was about the wincobank style now i'm not that keen on that style myself with the exception of herrol graham and hamed who both were top top fighters and in lots of good fights and really understud the switch hitting style,if your right handed then fight southpaw so your jabs your best punch is also part of it and of course elusiveness, but the list of champions that have come out of that gym is pretty impresive and obviously it works, allthough not everyones cup of tea. speaking of which i'm of for a brew and some cake.

My point was mate that at the highest (and by highest level) the style gets found out (Hamed v Barrera, Graham v McCallum, Kalumby) and no one on here had the bottle to say what others in the media (Like Barry McQuigan, Ian Darke, Larry Merchant, Colin heart etc etc all said that the lack of pure technique would get found out)

So when Ian gets all uppity regarding my questions of the forums agenda I will always be able to point to this post as an example of no one stepping up and backing up the truth for fear of upsseting a bunch of friends and proffesional acquaintances.

But the flipside Jon is that you can make a strong case for saying that if some of the Ingle fighters had adopted a more conventional style they wouldn't have reached the level they did.
Just because you can say Hatton or Hodkinson or Woodhall got "found out" (hate that phrase anyway) at the highest level does that mean their more conventional styles are fundamentally flawed as well?

[Deserter]

Jon you have to understand that a lot if not all mods on here are in some ways connected with grass roots boxing, that could be writing or officiating small hall shows. Give them a chance to go through the many posts on here that have been made in their absence. As for bullying I also hate it and experienced it on this forum because I dare have a different opinion on a fighter who posts on here, that said mate you do have to realise this is not real life and most of what is said is just a plonker winding people up. Don't take a PM to heart buddy, as for the site as a whole it really is one of the better ones buddy.

Glad you think that Taffy as I was disappointed to see you take a 'holiday' from the forum as I enjoy your contributions and genuinely think the 'community' was poorer for your absence

[CiganoBoxer]

I hope Cakes dont show his face on here ...he seems a very scary guy DD

[Jon Saxon]

What have I missed??

Cakes is trying to bring us down as a race, and Jon can not, and will not, let that happen.

There are imperatives in this world, and the need to fight those injustices plaguing this earth such as keyboard warrioring, are chief among them.

We cannot stay silent on this issue any longer, I ask you all to rise in the name of humanity.

Brilliant post mate.


Now go get me Cakes address and I will personally punch his kunt in and put it on youtube for all of you to watch in amazment at my lazer like prescision puches while I'm aslo riding his mother and his a dad watches wilst jerking off wishing he was "tossing the salad" at my back end.


My point? its' all about the wording and the intent behind it, mines was clearly fun and I'm still annoyed that this forum STILL has done nothing about this guy.

[Jon Saxon]

Jon you have to understand that a lot if not all mods on here are in some ways connected with grass roots boxing, that could be writing or officiating small hall shows. Give them a chance to go through the many posts on here that have been made in their absence. As for bullying I also hate it and experienced it on this forum because I dare have a different opinion on a fighter who posts on here, that said mate you do have to realise this is not real life and most of what is said is just a plonker winding people up. Don't take a PM to heart buddy, as for the site as a whole it really is one of the better ones buddy.

thanks mate, I just got pissed at cheap threats.

[Scottrf]

Jon, I get your point mate, and I agree that it would be better if the forum didn't have that sort of thing. I just think you should step back a minute and chill, because your reaction is a bit OTT. See what the moderators do, and if necessary say what you think then.

[TerribleTerry]

Same old Roper...

[Jon Saxon]

Jon, I get your point mate, and I agree that it would be better if the forum didn't have that sort of thing. I just think you should step back a minute and chill, because your reaction is a bit OTT. See what the moderators do, and if necessary say what you think then.

Do you know what Scott? you are right, I'm gonna chill about this and wait and see, I'm leaving this issue now.

Fair point, good man

[CiganoBoxer]

get me Cakes address and I will personally punch his kunt in and put it on youtube for all of you to watch in amazment at my lazer like prescision puches
.

but it sounds to me you might need a few mods there just in case

[twenty six]

Have a look at your own posts mate.
Particularly the one about a certain Promotor.
Consider yourself very fortunate not to be suffering the wrath of his legal department.
Glass houses and all that.
Chill out !!

[Jon Saxon]

aside all the other stuff the post was about the wincobank style now i'm not that keen on that style myself with the exception of herrol graham and hamed who both were top top fighters and in lots of good fights and really understud the switch hitting style,if your right handed then fight southpaw so your jabs your best punch is also part of it and of course elusiveness, but the list of champions that have come out of that gym is pretty impresive and obviously it works, allthough not everyones cup of tea. speaking of which i'm of for a brew and some cake.

My point was mate that at the highest (and by highest level) the style gets found out (Hamed v Barrera, Graham v McCallum, Kalumby) and no one on here had the bottle to say what others in the media (Like Barry McQuigan, Ian Darke, Larry Merchant, Colin heart etc etc all said that the lack of pure technique would get found out)

So when Ian gets all uppity regarding my questions of the forums agenda I will always be able to point to this post as an example of no one stepping up and backing up the truth for fear of upsseting a bunch of friends and proffesional acquaintances.

But the flipside Jon is that you can make a strong case for saying that if some of the Ingle fighters had adopted a more conventional style they wouldn't have reached the level they did.
Just because you can say Hatton or Hodkinson or Woodhall got "found out" (hate that phrase anyway) at the highest level does that mean their more conventional styles are fundamentally flawed as well?

Very good post,

Hatton? never thought he was very good to watch ugly ugly infighting style, always wondered how he got away the low hand
Woodhall? the perferct amatuer style, tall jabber, great for computer scoring, hated watching Keith Holmes beat him, was gutted actully.
terrible British style though, kida like Robert McKracken also, stan up tough men but BORING as fuk.
Hodkinson? Goyo Vargas would have beaten any fighter on that night but Hoko was a solid wee guy (skills wise).

My point only Hatton who was the only one out of the 3 fought the very best IMO (PacMan & Wankweather) and got found out, by found out I mean the gulf in class was unreal and Hattons style was flawed IMO.

He did well to hustle his way late into the Mayweather fight though.

[Jon Saxon]

Have a look at your own posts mate.
Particularly the one about a certain Promotor.
Consider yourself very fortunate not to be suffering the wrath of his legal department.
Glass houses and all that.
Chill out !!

Hey you be fair!, you dont know me but I'm a good guy and that David Ike lizard man promoter robs fighters.

Would it be a glass house if I said Hitler was a kunt?

Well I feel the same way about peole who steal off good honest men who go into a ring aout put their life on the line and then get robbed and left with NOTHNG but legal bills for thier effort.

On other thing "his legal dept"
He would be so out of his depth he wouldnt even dream of taking me or my company on. "I eat shit like him for breakfast"

Who is it we are talking about anyway?

[doctorboxing]

Wankweather.

Mods, can I please report this internet bullying of poor Floyd. We as a race must move beyond this.