Records that won't be beat.

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 14 Aug 2011, 07:11

Which boxing records do you think will never be beaten ?........I think Nikolai Valuev at over 7-foot, and 300 pound plus! will never be beat as the biggest ever heavy weight champion. And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age. What others ?

addi · Post by **addi** » 14 Aug 2011, 08:47

henry amstrong, in the future any record could be beat but this one will stand forever.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 14 Aug 2011, 08:52

Benitez - 17yr old world champion.

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 14 Aug 2011, 09:21

Pacquaio...17 division world champ

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 14 Aug 2011, 09:54

We'll never see another boxer as overrated on BoxRec as Sonny Liston.

yancey · Post by **yancey** » 14 Aug 2011, 12:39

Seamus wrote:We'll never see another boxer as overrated on BoxRec as Sonny Liston.

Always liked Sonny, but he is indeed overrated here.

JDC · Post by **JDC** » 14 Aug 2011, 13:05

Livingstone Cole wrote:
Livingstone Cole wrote:Tyson HW champ at 21. I can't see that happening.

What about that Welsh fella? The one that started fighting when he was 10 or something. That one should stay where it is too.
Just double checked. He was 9 years old.

Whos that?

addi · Post by **addi** » 14 Aug 2011, 13:49

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Benitez - 17yr old world champion.

forgot about that one, was a post on hear a week or so ago aswell about it. but yep cant ever see that being beat either.

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 14 Aug 2011, 13:59

JDC wrote:
Livingstone Cole wrote:
Livingstone Cole wrote:Tyson HW champ at 21. I can't see that happening.

What about that Welsh fella? The one that started fighting when he was 10 or something. That one should stay where it is too.
Just double checked. He was 9 years old.
Whos that?

Nipper Pat Daly, real name Patrick Clifford Daley (17 February 1913 – 25 September 1988)

Crease · Post by **Crease** » 14 Aug 2011, 17:02

flatnoseflynn wrote:And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age.

Actually I disagree. These days it's easy enough to get a 25-0 or 30-0 record (provided you are a good boxer) by just beating club fighters and journeyman.

Ike Ibeauchi did it not so long a go, and Floyd Mayweather currently has an undefeated record...

I think Marciano's record will eventually be beat.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 14 Aug 2011, 17:19

Crease wrote:
flatnoseflynn wrote:And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age.
Actually I disagree. These days it's easy enough to get a 25-0 or 30-0 record (provided you are a good boxer) by just beating club fighters and journeyman.

Ike Ibeauchi did it not so long a go, and Floyd Mayweather currently has an undefeated record...

I think Marciano's record will eventually be beat.

Ike had like 20 fights.

Jear · Post by **Jear** » 14 Aug 2011, 18:07

flatnoseflynn wrote:And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age. What others ?

Holmes came within a fight of doing it.
Brian Neilsen too came close without actually fighting anyone.
I suspect this one might go, I think it is more likely in these times with boxing politics and numerous belts to go than ever

Crease · Post by **Crease** » 14 Aug 2011, 19:38

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ike had like 20 fights.

Yes sir, I know that. I wasn't referring to Ike's record numerically. I was simply using it as a blueprint example of how far a fighter can get while fighting basically no one worthy of note.

Perhaps I should have made myself clearer, I apologise.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 14 Aug 2011, 20:42

yancey wrote:
Seamus wrote:We'll never see another boxer as overrated on BoxRec as Sonny Liston.
Always liked Sonny, but he is indeed overrated here.

x3

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 14 Aug 2011, 21:12

flatnoseflynn wrote:Which boxing records do you think will never be beaten ?........I think Nikolai Valuev at over 7-foot, and 300 pound plus! will never be beat as the biggest ever heavy weight champion. And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age. What others ?

Too bad Valuev never was a champion.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 14 Aug 2011, 21:12

Livingstone Cole wrote:Tyson HW champ at 21. I can't see that happening.

What about that Welsh fella? The one that started fighting when he was 10 or something. That one should stay where it is too.

This record is a myth.

The youngest champ ever is Patterson, aged 20.

It will be a long time before Hopkins' new record as oldest linear champion in history is broken. Hell, I'm surprised Foreman's holding of the record didn't last longer (1994-2011). Foreman still holds the record for being oldest man to hold the linear championship, though (48, 1997), & that may stay forever. I doubt Hopkins will be Light-Heavy champ three years from now.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 14 Aug 2011, 21:24

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Livingstone Cole wrote:Tyson HW champ at 21. I can't see that happening.

What about that Welsh fella? The one that started fighting when he was 10 or something. That one should stay where it is too.
This record is a myth.

The youngest champ ever is Patterson, aged 20.

It will be a long time before Hopkins' new record as oldest linear champion in history is broken. Hell, I'm surprised Foreman's holding of the record didn't last longer (1994-2011). Foreman still holds the record for being oldest man to hold the linear championship, though (48, 1997), & that may stay forever. I doubt Hopkins will be Light-Heavy champ three years from now.

Are you sure?

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 14 Aug 2011, 21:27

Excuse me, Patterson was 21.

Nevertheless, that's the record. Tyson was 22 when he won the championship. The record is with Patterson. I'm honestly sick of hearing that Tyson BS.

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 15 Aug 2011, 04:52

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
flatnoseflynn wrote:Which boxing records do you think will never be beaten ?........I think Nikolai Valuev at over 7-foot, and 300 pound plus! will never be beat as the biggest ever heavy weight champion. And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age. What others ?
Too bad Valuev never was a champion.

WBA is a recognised championship so Valuev was a champion. Sorry FACT

Keyboard Warrior

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 15 Aug 2011, 05:20

Crease wrote:
flatnoseflynn wrote:And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age.
Actually I disagree. These days it's easy enough to get a 25-0 or 30-0 record (provided you are a good boxer) by just beating club fighters and journeyman.

Ike Ibeauchi did it not so long a go, and Floyd Mayweather currently has an undefeated record...

I think Marciano's record will eventually be beat.

Floyd Mayweather will be 67 by the time he gets to 50-0, assuming he does get to that landmark. :P

Deno1986 · Post by **Deno1986** » 15 Aug 2011, 07:04

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Benitez - 17yr old world champion.

Was he that young? That is nearly a dead cert never to be beaten, amazing feat at that age considering who he was fighting and the fifteen round distance.

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 15 Aug 2011, 07:08

Rocky Marciano's record has lasted nearly 60 years so very difficult to beat IMO especially the heavyweights Larry Holmes came very close but I don't think he would of retired after beating Marciano's record anyway looking on at what he eventually did with his career?

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 15 Aug 2011, 07:12

Deno1986 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Benitez - 17yr old world champion.
Was he that young? That is nearly a dead cert never to be beaten, amazing feat at that age considering who he was fighting and the fifteen round distance.

Agreed, just turning pro at 18! is young so being a champion at 17 years old is incredible really

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 15 Aug 2011, 07:15

Another is Ryan Rhodes winning the lonsdale belt outright in 90 days great achievment

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 15 Aug 2011, 07:21

Livingstone Cole wrote:I'm not sure who holds the record for most fights in a year, but I'm not sure that it'd be even possible to beat it in the modern era.

I bet Peter Buckley had a quite few in a year.

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