British Top 30 P4P September 2011

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Matthew Macklin
7. (7.) Brian Magee (Irish)
8. (8.) Kevin Mitchell
9. (9.) Rendall Munroe
10. (10.) Jamie McDonnell

11. (12.) Matthew Hatton
12. (11.) Ola Afolabi
13. (13.) Kell Brook
14. (14.) Ryan Rhodes
15. (15.) John Murray
16. (16.) Darren Barker
17. (17.) Gavin Rees
18. (18.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
19. (19.) Stuart Hall
20. (20.) Stephen Smith

21. (21.) John Simpson
22. (22.) Andy Lee (Irish)
23. (23.) George Groves
24. (24.) Ashley Theophane
25. (25.) Lee Purdy
26. (26.) Tyson Fury
27. (27.) Jason Booth
28. (28.) Prince Arron
29. (29.) James DeGale
30. (30.) Anthony Crolla

[Horse]

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

[rooq]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

[Crazyboy]

Looks decent mate, maybe Kevin Mitchell a bit high?

Apart from that looks good to me

[twenty six]

What persuaded you to swap over Hatton and Olafabi ?

[jamielaststand2011]

Darren Barker, Kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes should all be above Matthew Hatton for me. Rhodes had a much better outing against Alvarez in my opinion despite the result coming inside the 12.

[rooq]

Darren Barker, Kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes should all be above Matthew Hatton for me. Rhodes had a much better outing against Alvarez in my opinion despite the result coming inside the 12.

really? i thought rhodes was shocking against alvarez and hatton had the more success (even though he lost every round)

[Captain Hook]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

Based on what? He's about right for me.......needs to beat Vera convincingly.

Still not taken with Lee....

[stujones]

Just wondering Horse, has there ever been a month where you haven't changed the rankings at all?

I'm not sure how that Hatton win results in a move up the rankings.

[rooq]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

Based on what? He's about right for me.......needs to beat Vera convincingly.

Still not taken with Lee....

Based on the positions of john murray and darren barker in the list. Id put Lee at around the same level.

[slapbangwhallop]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

Based on what? He's about right for me.......needs to beat Vera convincingly.

Still not taken with Lee....

really!?

I thought you and Bennie were the founders of his fan club in the UK, no?

[Horse]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

Lee would be higher if he had been fighting the same level of opposition last year that he has been fighting this year. His opponents in 2010 were poor, which was strange considering that he entered that year coming off his best win to that date after he beat Belghecham in late 2009.

Lee rematches Vera in October, if he wins that then he will probably enter the 10-15 section of the rankings.

[Horse]

Looks decent mate, maybe Kevin Mitchell a bit high?

Apart from that looks good to me

Mitchell beat Murray who was top 10 at the time, so I thought a top 10 ranking would be okay for Mitchell considering the nature of his win. Munroe had been fairly inactive and unimpressive since his loss to Nishioka last year, so I thought Mitchell should move ahead of him, but no higher because of his 14 months of inactivity before the Murray win.

[Horse]

What persuaded you to swap over Hatton and Olafabi ?

Hatton beat Abramenka, so I moved him up a place.

[Captain Hook]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

Based on what? He's about right for me.......needs to beat Vera convincingly.

Still not taken with Lee....

Based on the positions of john murray and darren barker in the list. Id put Lee at around the same level.

I disagree....think Barker would box Lee's ears off for starters.

[Captain Hook]

Andy Lee seems a bit low to me..I would have thought he would be maybe 10 to 15 somewhere.

Based on what? He's about right for me.......needs to beat Vera convincingly.

Still not taken with Lee....

really!?

I thought you and Bennie were the founders of his fan club in the UK, no?

If by that you mean we're not blinkered, then yes Slap, I'll agree

As usual it's more hype than substance but I admire the enthusiasm

[Horse]

Darren Barker, Kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes should all be above Matthew Hatton for me. Rhodes had a much better outing against Alvarez in my opinion despite the result coming inside the 12.

I thought Hatton did better against Alvarez than Rhodes did.

Barker has had one fight in the last 16 months, so I don't think he should be too high up the rankings at the moment. If Barker does well against Martinez in October then he can climb a few places.

If Brook beats Jackiewicz next month then he will probably overtake Hatton. At the moment I think Hatton has done more to deserve a higher ranking.

[Horse]

Just wondering Horse, has there ever been a month where you haven't changed the rankings at all?

No, not yet.

I'm not sure how that Hatton win results in a move up the rankings.

It was a one place move up the rankings, overtaking Afolabi who had moved up 6 places the previous month for beating Dunstan.

Hatton's win wasn't great, but it was an okay win against an unbeaten fighter, so I felt it was enough to move him up a bit.

[slapbangwhallop]

I disagree....think Barker would box Lee's ears off for starters.

Based on what? Their fight in the amateurs or his fantastic showing against Belgacham?

Barker is the biggest hype job in British boxing. I am genuinely gutted that he is taking the Martinez fight because I would have loved to see Lee or Macklin expose him first. Now its going to be "he was never the same fighter after Martinez"

Pah!

If by that you mean we're not blinkered, then yes Slap, I'll agree

As usual it's more hype than substance but I admire the enthusiasm

Nah, actually you are blinkered and you've not into the hype.

He is no way as bad as some of here (including you and Bennie) try to make out.

Time will tell!