i agreed with glenn mccory regarding haye

[apophenic]

And Haye was one of the worst. I still find it hard to understand how some on here claim he didn`t do that bad

did he get knocked out?? broken down? quit? ref stop the fight? was he severely beaten a la briggs or adamek?

no.

ergo - he didn't do too badly. he just didnt find that 2nd phase...

The brothers should fight those contenders who have the ambition to give it a go. Chisora for all his faults last time would have given the brothers a more determined effort than Haye

like he did against fury?

gtf out of here mate....

Why must we watch the brothers dominate over unambitious guys - when there are guys with ambition waiting in the wings.

such as??

If a guy wins european belts. Regardless of number of fights. He should get a crack at the title ... if a guy `fights` his way into a top 10 contention .. he too should be given an opportunity too.

agree with that.

Guys who lose title chances - with little or no ambition - should be made to prove their worth once again to earn their title chance.

Haye should earn his chance. He certainly does not deserve a world title fight after his last no-show.

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he put his title on the line and lost.

if that had happened to a klistchko the rematch would have been part of the contract.

[coghaugen11]

If he's in the top ten, available and Vitali's management are willing to make a voluntary defence against him, then what exactly is the problem?

Boxing is business and entertainment, and Haye brings money, talk, interest, intrigue, etc

[apophenic]

If he's in the top ten, available and Vitali's management are willing to make a voluntary defence against him, then what exactly is the problem?

the problem is that some people don't like david's brashness and confidence and believe fighters should act more like bruce seldon than muhammad ali.

[NazNaci1]

Unfortunately there are not any decent challengers left, the brothers have cleaned out the division.
Haye at least is a name and will sell the fight.
Also the Londoner has taken significant risks throughout his career often for chump change and in the opponents back yard.
His dire effort in the last fight, esp after the way he built it up may well end up be what he is remembered for.
I hope he can find some redemption here, at least this time to go out on his sword.

I agree with Coco.,There is not a whole lot out there. Povetkin? Well he has turned down the fights often enough. Fury? Well he is big but world class? Helenius? Sure he is also big and can crack a bit. And there is Haye? Brash, loud, ego, can punch and was a major disappointment last time out. Not too clever whichever way you look at it.

Does Haye deserve a shot? Well no, but out of the others, one has turned it down plenty of times, the other is way too green and not world class and only Helenius is worthy but also maybe still green.

[revporl]

I don't think Fury would get past Audley, never mind Vitali.

[Finn]

I don't think Fury would get past Audley, never mind Vitali.

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