Are Cuban boxers Teofilo Stevenson, Roberto Balado, Felix Savon would have been world champions in the heavyweight division in professional boxing? Do Stevenson beaten George Foreman or Larry Holmes? Do Savon and Balado defeated Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Riddick Bowe or Lennox Lewis?
What are your views on this subject? Sorry for my English
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Re: Stevenson, Balado, Savon
Nope. They lose to all of them.
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..i agree with carlos, if i have his pronouns right.....the pros mentioned would beat the amateurs...
..and polbox....don't apologize for your english...we understood you...and some here don't do much better with english as their only language... :P
..and polbox....don't apologize for your english...we understood you...and some here don't do much better with english as their only language... :P
Re: Stevenson, Balado, Savon
If you mean amatuer vs pro, then the pros win hands down and you don't even need to set the bar as high as you did.
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In spite of all his medals and stellar amateur record, Stevenson lost to Duane Bobick (one out of two) twice to Francesco Damiani and Igor Visotsky as well as defeats at the hands of Craig Payne, Peter Somner, Alexander Krupkin, Bern Adner and Orlando Castillo, all good amateurs but a far cry from the Holmes, Shavers, Foreman bunch that Ali was facing.
As for Savon, although his record was superb, he was stopped eighteen times in his amateur career, including a loss to a little known Korean heavyweight named Lee Dal Han.
Under proper management and well matched Stevenson and Savon would have both earned fortunes in the pro ranks but no one will know how far they could have reached. Professional boxing and amateur pugilism vary greatly and there is no guaranteed stardom.
Many outstanding amateurs fizzled and flopped in the pros, the most poignant case being that of Craig Payne. The Michigan heavyweight had a brilliant amateur career, winning a National Golden Gloves title and international tournaments. Payne could boast of being the only fighter in the planet to hold wins over both Teofilo Stevenson and Mike Tyson. Yet as a pro, Payne won 12, lost 20 and drew once, being stopped seven times.
Argentine boxer Pablo Sagrispanti was a terror in the amateurs winning international competitions, national championships and having a long streak of consecutive victories, yet as a pro he had an 11-23-4 record, being stopped nine times while serving as a punching bag for Oscar Bonavena, Dogomar Martinez and Gregorio Peralta.
Amateur medals and trophies are symbols of experience acquired and sharpened skills but do not guarantee automatic success in the professional arena.
As for Savon, although his record was superb, he was stopped eighteen times in his amateur career, including a loss to a little known Korean heavyweight named Lee Dal Han.
Under proper management and well matched Stevenson and Savon would have both earned fortunes in the pro ranks but no one will know how far they could have reached. Professional boxing and amateur pugilism vary greatly and there is no guaranteed stardom.
Many outstanding amateurs fizzled and flopped in the pros, the most poignant case being that of Craig Payne. The Michigan heavyweight had a brilliant amateur career, winning a National Golden Gloves title and international tournaments. Payne could boast of being the only fighter in the planet to hold wins over both Teofilo Stevenson and Mike Tyson. Yet as a pro, Payne won 12, lost 20 and drew once, being stopped seven times.
Argentine boxer Pablo Sagrispanti was a terror in the amateurs winning international competitions, national championships and having a long streak of consecutive victories, yet as a pro he had an 11-23-4 record, being stopped nine times while serving as a punching bag for Oscar Bonavena, Dogomar Martinez and Gregorio Peralta.
Amateur medals and trophies are symbols of experience acquired and sharpened skills but do not guarantee automatic success in the professional arena.
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...enrique...an excellent post!!!! and not just because i agree with you but how you took the time to make this an educational one. 
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watching Stevenson on youtube throwing those quick right hands would give any pro trouble. i believe Teo. could have been great with the other two winning a title or two.
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Didn't the Romanian amateur heavyweight Ion Alexe also defeat
Teofilio Stevenson not too long after the 1972 Olympics?
Alexe was scheduled to fight Stevenson for the gold medal in Munich,
but reportedly broke his thumb on his opponentin during the semi-finals
and had to withdraw and Stevenson won the gold by default,
but it makes u wonder,what if?
(although of course Joe Frazier had broken his thumb too
in the semi-finals against the Russian at the 1964 Olympics
in Tokyo,but sucked it up and went on to fight the West German for the gold medal,
although perhaps Ion Alexes thumb break may have been more painfull,
or they didnt have anything to numb the pain to fight again the next day?
Teofilio Stevenson not too long after the 1972 Olympics?
Alexe was scheduled to fight Stevenson for the gold medal in Munich,
but reportedly broke his thumb on his opponentin during the semi-finals
and had to withdraw and Stevenson won the gold by default,
but it makes u wonder,what if?
(although of course Joe Frazier had broken his thumb too
in the semi-finals against the Russian at the 1964 Olympics
in Tokyo,but sucked it up and went on to fight the West German for the gold medal,
although perhaps Ion Alexes thumb break may have been more painfull,
or they didnt have anything to numb the pain to fight again the next day?