Muhammed Ali VS

[dempseyfire]

He beats them all besides Louis who gets a late TKO victory. Johnson would also have a very good chance to frustrate Ali on points.

[raylawpc]

Yes, that's what I'm saying, in my entirely subjective personal opinion.

Yancey hates Marciano. He thinks by tearing down Marciano, he somehow builds up Frazier . . .

You are totally full of crap.

It is really not worth the effort responding to someone like you, but I will in order to set the record straight.

I don't hate Marciano. Never have.

You periodically bring up this ridiculous, shallow mantra that I'm tearing down Marciano to build up Frazier.

That has nothing to do with it. Frazier stands or falls on his own.

Do I sincerely feel Marciano is overrated and would have had lots of trouble with quite a few of the '60s and later heavyweights?

Without question.

Ali would have embarrassed Rocky.

Maybe . . . but it sure is fun to get you frothing at the mouth denying it. . .

[yancey]

Yancey hates Marciano. He thinks by tearing down Marciano, he somehow builds up Frazier . . .

You are totally full of crap.

It is really not worth the effort responding to someone like you, but I will in order to set the record straight.

I don't hate Marciano. Never have.

You periodically bring up this ridiculous, shallow mantra that I'm tearing down Marciano to build up Frazier.

That has nothing to do with it. Frazier stands or falls on his own.

Do I sincerely feel Marciano is overrated and would have had lots of trouble with quite a few of the '60s and later heavyweights?

Without question.

Ali would have embarrassed Rocky.

Maybe . . . but it sure is fun to get you frothing at the mouth denying it. . .

I read your prior post before you quickly deleted it.

I hope you don't leap to the conclusions in your profession like you've done here with me.

On the other hand, that might be your game. Throw a bunch of crap against the wall and hope some of it sticks.

Pitiful.

[raylawpc]

You are totally full of crap.

It is really not worth the effort responding to someone like you, but I will in order to set the record straight.

I don't hate Marciano. Never have.

You periodically bring up this ridiculous, shallow mantra that I'm tearing down Marciano to build up Frazier.

That has nothing to do with it. Frazier stands or falls on his own.

Do I sincerely feel Marciano is overrated and would have had lots of trouble with quite a few of the '60s and later heavyweights?

Without question.

Ali would have embarrassed Rocky.

Maybe . . . but it sure is fun to get you frothing at the mouth denying it. . .

I read your prior post before you quickly deleted it.

I hope you don't leap to the conclusions in your profession like you've done here with me.

On the other hand, that might be your game. Throw a bunch of crap against the wall and hope some of it sticks.

Pitiful.

Still frothing, I see . . .

[yancey]

I'm reluctant to comment here, but I have sort of echoed Yancey's thoughts on this on occasion. Not trying to be provocative but I see Frazier as a bit more rugged and powerful version of Marciano. Better in almost every way. Ok, maybe not the right hand.

Frazier DID beat Ali, I don't think Rocky would have had a good a chance of accomplishing that. I also think that Frazier may be the only fighter who could have gotten that job done. (discounting that any fighter can have a lucky KO....but Frazier just plain gave Ali a beating) Though I honestly think I'd rather have been Ali after the fight, because Ali gave Frazier perhaps an even bigger beating...but based on points...I gave that fight to Frazier.

So using Marciano as a bench mark to make a case that Frazier is pretty remarkable, seems ok to me.

Sorry to get pretty emphatic on this thread, but it annoys me when some clown takes the fact that I think the Rock is overrated and distorts it into me hating the guy.

[raylawpc]

I'm reluctant to comment here, but I have sort of echoed Yancey's thoughts on this on occasion. Not trying to be provocative but I see Frazier as a bit more rugged and powerful version of Marciano. Better in almost every way. Ok, maybe not the right hand.

Frazier DID beat Ali, I don't think Rocky would have had a good a chance of accomplishing that. I also think that Frazier may be the only fighter who could have gotten that job done. (discounting that any fighter can have a lucky KO....but Frazier just plain gave Ali a beating) Though I honestly think I'd rather have been Ali after the fight, because Ali gave Frazier perhaps an even bigger beating...but based on points...I gave that fight to Frazier.

So using Marciano as a bench mark to make a case that Frazier is pretty remarkable, seems ok to me.

Sorry to get pretty emphatic on this thread, but it annoys me when some clown takes the fact that I think the Rock is overrated and distorts it into me hating the guy.

[Collins2000]

All we need now is is Yancey's dad, the legendary granberry, to add his own bile and venom.

This place is great!

[BoxBuzz]

Collins, my good man.....your fonts have been missed.....but not overly so!

[yancey]

All we need now is is Yancey's dad, the legendary granberry, to add his own bile and venom.

This place is great!

Granberry is a great man and knows who the frauds are in this game.

Unlike cabana boy wannabees like yourself.

[ThatOne]

LOL

[Collins2000]

All we need now is is Yancey's dad, the legendary granberry, to add his own bile and venom.

This place is great!

Granberry is a great man and knows who the frauds are in this game.

Unlike cabana boy wannabees like yourself.