Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Panzerfaust]

‎ "That's the only time I was scared in the ring. Sonny Liston. First time. First round. Said he was gonna kill me."

- Muhammad Ali

I would like to see the man that wouldent be worried going up against the Bear I know i sure would...

[Panzerfaust]

Sergio Martinez told Nicholas Samuilov of notifight.com (via BS.com) that he would be willing to drop all the way down to 150 pounds to face Manny Pacquiao in 2012:


"I am willing to go down to 150 pounds to face Manny Pacquiao. It does not depend only on me. We will see what happens, if his team and [Top Rank CEO] Bob Arum accept [the fight]. Because it's one thing is to fight Antonio Margarito at 150, and another thing to face me at 150. ... He always said 150, and I respect his position, because he is a little fighter even at 150. But it's going to play to his advantage because I'll be almost ten kilos lighter in my body."

Well, that's that then -- the middleweight champion of the world has spoken himself, and says he'd go down to 150 pounds to fight Manny Pacquiao. Earlier, Martinez's adviser Sampson Lewkowicz had said that he wouldn't want Sergio to go under 155 or 156 pounds for a big fight with Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr, but it looks like Sergio is really willing to take the risk.



I wonder what's changed here, and I think I might have an idea. Martinez isn't getting younger -- he's 36, he turns 37 in February. Despite the fact that he's at peak popularity, relevance, and notoriety, he doesn't have a lot of years left in the sport, and frankly the crop at 160 pounds doesn't have a fighter who's going to come along to the point of being a big event fighter until Martinez is, oh, 40 or so.

So why not take the risk? Martinez, like every fighter, wants the money and the big fights. Even if he were to move up to 168, which I've said a few times I'd love to see him do because I think he'd fare very well, that kind of money wouldn't compare to a Pacquiao or Mayweather fight.

He's going about this in a ballsy way, basically saying he understands that the money men (Manny and Floyd) call the shots, and he accepts that he'll have to drop all the way down to 150. It's risky, it's a little bit crazy, and it might not even be doable. He might, if it were to happen, show up so drained that he'd be all but nothing in the ring on fight night. But he's offering to do it.

On the other hand: Do I think Bob Arum would sign off on this fight? I think he'd consult with the minds at Top Rank, weigh the risks, the pros and cons, and give it a serious think. But in the end, I don't think he'd be excited about putting Pacquiao in the ring with a 5'11" southpaw who can move, has power, and has hand speed and an awkward style.

Could this make Martinez vs Mayweather more possible? Would Sergio drop to 150 for Floyd, which may be the more likely fight?

[bennie]

‎ "That's the only time I was scared in the ring. Sonny Liston. First time. First round. Said he was gonna kill me."

- Muhammad Ali

Liston definitely swallowed it in the end, and he did the same in the second fight, in my opinion. Forget all the conspiracy theories.

[Rick Farris]

George Benton KO's "Joltin" Johnny Smith at the Olympic - 1963
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCO86_Z5 ... r_embedded#!

I'd love to see Sergio Martinez fight a middleweight like George Benton.
He'd never hit him! And in due course would be KO'ed.

[raylawpc]

A nice tribute to Benton from a fellow Philadelphian:

http://www.ibroresearch.com/?p=5274

[kikibalt]

Tony "The Tiger" Baltazar became a grandpa for the time today, his daughter Nakojua gave birth to Aubrella Trinity Baltazar this morning.

[raylawpc]

Congrats to Grandpa Tony and Great-Grandpa Frank!

[kikibalt]

Congrats to Grandpa Tony and Great-Grandpa Frank!

Thanks Tom. This new baby is our fourth great-grandchild

[raylawpc]

An interesting interview with Larry Merchant . . . a "legal sucker punch . . ."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story/_/ ... ans-booing

I'm not a Larry Merchant fan, but I thought his comments on the podcast interview were interesting. He called Mayweather's knockout combo a "legal sucker punch."

I'm looking forward to the rebroadcast Saturday. I didn't pay to see it live because (a) I don't like Ortiz or Mayweather, (b) I didn't think it would be an interesting fight, and (c) I didn't think Golden Boy would match Alvarez with somebody who might beat him. Based what I read on this forum this morning and what Randy and Frank posted on facebook, it looks like I got two out of three wrong. That's what I get for being a tightwad, I suppose. I hope they rebroadcast the Alvarez fight too.

[raylawpc]

Congrats to Grandpa Tony and Great-Grandpa Frank!

Thanks Tom. This new baby is our fourth great-grandchild

[Rick Farris]

‎ "That's the only time I was scared in the ring. Sonny Liston. First time. First round. Said he was gonna kill me."

- Muhammad Ali

Liston definitely swallowed it in the end, and he did the same in the second fight, in my opinion. Forget all the conspiracy theories.

I agree.

[Rick Farris]

Sergio Martinez told Nicholas Samuilov of notifight.com (via BS.com) that he would be willing to drop all the way down to 150 pounds to face Manny Pacquiao in 2012:


"I am willing to go down to 150 pounds to face Manny Pacquiao. It does not depend only on me. We will see what happens, if his team and [Top Rank CEO] Bob Arum accept [the fight]. Because it's one thing is to fight Antonio Margarito at 150, and another thing to face me at 150. ... He always said 150, and I respect his position, because he is a little fighter even at 150. But it's going to play to his advantage because I'll be almost ten kilos lighter in my body."

Well, that's that then -- the middleweight champion of the world has spoken himself, and says he'd go down to 150 pounds to fight Manny Pacquiao. Earlier, Martinez's adviser Sampson Lewkowicz had said that he wouldn't want Sergio to go under 155 or 156 pounds for a big fight with Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr, but it looks like Sergio is really willing to take the risk.



I wonder what's changed here, and I think I might have an idea. Martinez isn't getting younger -- he's 36, he turns 37 in February. Despite the fact that he's at peak popularity, relevance, and notoriety, he doesn't have a lot of years left in the sport, and frankly the crop at 160 pounds doesn't have a fighter who's going to come along to the point of being a big event fighter until Martinez is, oh, 40 or so.

So why not take the risk? Martinez, like every fighter, wants the money and the big fights. Even if he were to move up to 168, which I've said a few times I'd love to see him do because I think he'd fare very well, that kind of money wouldn't compare to a Pacquiao or Mayweather fight.

He's going about this in a ballsy way, basically saying he understands that the money men (Manny and Floyd) call the shots, and he accepts that he'll have to drop all the way down to 150. It's risky, it's a little bit crazy, and it might not even be doable. He might, if it were to happen, show up so drained that he'd be all but nothing in the ring on fight night. But he's offering to do it.

On the other hand: Do I think Bob Arum would sign off on this fight? I think he'd consult with the minds at Top Rank, weigh the risks, the pros and cons, and give it a serious think. But in the end, I don't think he'd be excited about putting Pacquiao in the ring with a 5'11" southpaw who can move, has power, and has hand speed and an awkward style.

Could this make Martinez vs Mayweather more possible? Would Sergio drop to 150 for Floyd, which may be the more likely fight?

Martinez is just too big. I don't believe he has the skill to beat Pacquiao, but it would be an unfair match.
Weight makes a big difference, not height.
I have no doubt that Pac would starch Martinez, regardless of weight.
Manny isn't 6'3" and doesn't lean down into the other guys power. Martinez would be lost.
But it would ruin a guy who walks around in the high 130's. They force feed Manny to 144 lbs.
He weighs less when the bell rings, not more. Martinez would be pushing 170 pouinds by fight night.
That fight would render Pac a shot fighter, I believe. And it would ruin a box-office attraction in Martinez.
He can dance around with Mayweather all night with little consequence. But this guy is too big.
My opinion.

[kikibalt]

Rick, remember Willie?

Willie Jensen

division super flyweight

alias Birdlegs

country United States
residence Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

won 24 (KO 7) + lost 4 (KO 4) + drawn 2 = 30
rounds boxed 218 KO% 23.33

1982-10-13 115 Khaosai Galaxy 116 13-1-0
Bangkok, Thailand L KO 2

1982-06-22 114½ Humberto Rodriguez 118 5-6-0
Astro Arena, Houston, Texas, United States W PTS 10 10

1981-12-18 Alonzo Gonzalez 13-3-1
Bakersfield, California, United States L KO 5
1981-07-29 114 Chul Ho Kim 114½ 16-1-1

Kudok Gymnasium, Busan, South Korea L TKO 13 15
time: 1:18 | referee: Ray Solis | judge: Mike Jacobs 111-117 | judge: Arlen Bynum 113-116 | judge: Hyo-Kon Kim 113-120
WBC super flyweight title

1981-02-10 Julio Rodriguez 9-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 12 12
USBA flyweight title

1980-07-28 115 Rafael Orono 114½ 12-0-0
Nuevo Circo, Caracas, Venezuela D PTS 15 15
eferee: Luis Carlos Guzman 146-146 | judge: Horacio Castilla 146-146 | judge: Pedro Ramirez 146-147
WBC super flyweight title

1980-03-27 Mark Pacheco 7-1-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1980-02-19 Sergio Reyes 16-9-0
Shy Clown Casino, Sparks, Nevada, United States W KO 6

1979-11-30 Mario Chavez 21-9-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1979-08-08 Jose Luis Garcia 7-6-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

1978-05-10 Jose Carranza
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 7

1978-03-22 Tito Arzate 1-4-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1976-05-08 109 Guty Espadas 113 23-2-4
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1975-12-10 Tony Rocha 33-2-4
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
USBA flyweight title

1975-09-20 Lupe Pintor 9-1-0
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States L KO 7

1975-08-02 109 Adelaido Galindo 112 8-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10

1975-06-25 Candy Iglesias 2-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1975-05-14 Victor Seco Luna 1-1-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 4 4

1975-02-05 Harvey Wilson 5-12-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1974-03-13 John Meza 6-11-1
Circus Circus Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1974-01-23 Pedro Torres
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-28 Willie Vasquez
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-21 Danny Young 0-13-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1973-10-28 Jesse Trujillo 1-0-0
Stateline, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-10-03 Reynaldo Gutierrez
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2

1973-09-12 Joe Saldivar
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-06-30 Flash Zaldivar
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-06-16 John Meza 6-8-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-05-16 Jewell Chappell 2-8-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5

1973-05-02 112 Mato Espinoza 118
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

[JMac]

Benton strategy whipped Ali . . .

It was George Benton who trained a small heavyweight, with only eight pro fights, to take the heavyweight title from the great Muhammad Ali. Benton designed the winning strategy used by Leon Spinks to score one of the biggest upsets in boxing history.

Benton told us that he instructed Spinks to jab at Ali's left shoulder, not his face.
After taking shots to his deltoid muscle for several rounds, the snap left Ali's jab, taking away the champ's most effective weapon. God bless the old school trainers, and bless Georgie Benton. What a gentleman he was, kind to share his memories with us. Respectful of people from days gone by, even the shady charactors, such as Frankie Carbo.

Earlier in the day Dan Hanley and I interviewed Benton, then in the evening George was inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. I caught up with Benton in the hotel bar after the event. I sat with George and his son, and he shared more about his brilliant career. As Dan Hanley mentioned when interviewing the former middleweight contender, "George, you were known as a 'cutie' " Benton smiled, having not heard that term in ages. There was a time in boxing when certain boxers were such masters of their craft, they were known as "cuties". Today there is no such thing.

God Bless George Benton.

George also trained Marvis Frazier when he was an amateur and Marvis was a hell of a good boxer. Later when Joe got greedy and jacked up all of the prices in the gym for pros, amateurs and trainers to use his gym, many of the good trainers left and opened their own gyms and that was the end of the meca of boxing gyms at the time which Fraziers gym was. Many good boxers left with their trainers then as well. Joe took over training Marvis when he turned pro and made him box his style which did not work for Marvis. Benton had him boxing more conventional as opposed to Joe who wanted him to try and bang inside like he did.
George open a gym nearby in North Philly. He hooked with Lou Duva and worked with many of the boxers from the '84 US Olympic team that Duva had signed.

[Rick Farris]

Benton strategy whipped Ali . . .

It was George Benton who trained a small heavyweight, with only eight pro fights, to take the heavyweight title from the great Muhammad Ali. Benton designed the winning strategy used by Leon Spinks to score one of the biggest upsets in boxing history.

Benton told us that he instructed Spinks to jab at Ali's left shoulder, not his face.
After taking shots to his deltoid muscle for several rounds, the snap left Ali's jab, taking away the champ's most effective weapon. God bless the old school trainers, and bless Georgie Benton. What a gentleman he was, kind to share his memories with us. Respectful of people from days gone by, even the shady charactors, such as Frankie Carbo.

Earlier in the day Dan Hanley and I interviewed Benton, then in the evening George was inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. I caught up with Benton in the hotel bar after the event. I sat with George and his son, and he shared more about his brilliant career. As Dan Hanley mentioned when interviewing the former middleweight contender, "George, you were known as a 'cutie' " Benton smiled, having not heard that term in ages. There was a time in boxing when certain boxers were such masters of their craft, they were known as "cuties". Today there is no such thing.

God Bless George Benton.

George also trained Marvis Frazier when he was an amateur and Marvis was a hell of a good boxer. Later when Joe got greedy and jacked up all of the prices in the gym for pros, amateurs and trainers to use his gym, many of the good trainers left and opened their own gyms and that was the end of the meca of boxing gyms at the time which Fraziers gym was. Many good boxers left with their trainers then as well. Joe took over training Marvis when he turned pro and made him box his style which did not work for Marvis. Benton had him boxing more conventional as opposed to Joe who wanted him to try and bang inside like he did.
George open a gym nearby in North Philly. He hooked with Lou Duva and worked with many of the boxers from the '84 US Olympic team that Duva had signed.

Interesting. I remember Marvis as an amateur, didn't know Benton trained him though.
He really could have used him in the pros. As you pointed out, Joe screwed things up.

[Rick Farris]

Rick, remember Willie?

Willie Jensen

division super flyweight

alias Birdlegs

country United States
residence Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

won 24 (KO 7) + lost 4 (KO 4) + drawn 2 = 30
rounds boxed 218 KO% 23.33

1982-10-13 115 Khaosai Galaxy 116 13-1-0
Bangkok, Thailand L KO 2

1982-06-22 114½ Humberto Rodriguez 118 5-6-0
Astro Arena, Houston, Texas, United States W PTS 10 10

1981-12-18 Alonzo Gonzalez 13-3-1
Bakersfield, California, United States L KO 5
1981-07-29 114 Chul Ho Kim 114½ 16-1-1

Kudok Gymnasium, Busan, South Korea L TKO 13 15
time: 1:18 | referee: Ray Solis | judge: Mike Jacobs 111-117 | judge: Arlen Bynum 113-116 | judge: Hyo-Kon Kim 113-120
WBC super flyweight title

1981-02-10 Julio Rodriguez 9-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 12 12
USBA flyweight title

1980-07-28 115 Rafael Orono 114½ 12-0-0
Nuevo Circo, Caracas, Venezuela D PTS 15 15
eferee: Luis Carlos Guzman 146-146 | judge: Horacio Castilla 146-146 | judge: Pedro Ramirez 146-147
WBC super flyweight title

1980-03-27 Mark Pacheco 7-1-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1980-02-19 Sergio Reyes 16-9-0
Shy Clown Casino, Sparks, Nevada, United States W KO 6

1979-11-30 Mario Chavez 21-9-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1979-08-08 Jose Luis Garcia 7-6-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

1978-05-10 Jose Carranza
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 7

1978-03-22 Tito Arzate 1-4-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1976-05-08 109 Guty Espadas 113 23-2-4
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1975-12-10 Tony Rocha 33-2-4
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
USBA flyweight title

1975-09-20 Lupe Pintor 9-1-0
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States L KO 7

1975-08-02 109 Adelaido Galindo 112 8-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10

1975-06-25 Candy Iglesias 2-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1975-05-14 Victor Seco Luna 1-1-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 4 4

1975-02-05 Harvey Wilson 5-12-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1974-03-13 John Meza 6-11-1
Circus Circus Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1974-01-23 Pedro Torres
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-28 Willie Vasquez
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-21 Danny Young 0-13-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1973-10-28 Jesse Trujillo 1-0-0
Stateline, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-10-03 Reynaldo Gutierrez
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2

1973-09-12 Joe Saldivar
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-06-30 Flash Zaldivar
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-06-16 John Meza 6-8-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-05-16 Jewell Chappell 2-8-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5

1973-05-02 112 Mato Espinoza 118
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

Yeah, I remember Bird Legs. He was training boxers at L.A. Boxing Club before they closed down a few years ago. He was a good little fighter out of Las Vegas. I remember back in 1967 when LA brought a team of juniors to Las Vegas for a card that was being held in the afternoon before a "Destruction Derby" event took place at a race track. I fought that day and so did your boys. Didn't Fernie fight Bird Legs? I remember Albert Davila fought and won, but I lost that day.

[Chuck1052]

Congratulations to you and Tony!

- Chuck Johnston

[kikibalt]

Congratulations to you and Tony!

- Chuck Johnston

Thanks Chuck..

[kikibalt]

Rick, remember Willie?

Willie Jensen

division super flyweight

alias Birdlegs

country United States
residence Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

won 24 (KO 7) + lost 4 (KO 4) + drawn 2 = 30
rounds boxed 218 KO% 23.33

1982-10-13 115 Khaosai Galaxy 116 13-1-0
Bangkok, Thailand L KO 2

1982-06-22 114½ Humberto Rodriguez 118 5-6-0
Astro Arena, Houston, Texas, United States W PTS 10 10

1981-12-18 Alonzo Gonzalez 13-3-1
Bakersfield, California, United States L KO 5
1981-07-29 114 Chul Ho Kim 114½ 16-1-1

Kudok Gymnasium, Busan, South Korea L TKO 13 15
time: 1:18 | referee: Ray Solis | judge: Mike Jacobs 111-117 | judge: Arlen Bynum 113-116 | judge: Hyo-Kon Kim 113-120
WBC super flyweight title

1981-02-10 Julio Rodriguez 9-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 12 12
USBA flyweight title

1980-07-28 115 Rafael Orono 114½ 12-0-0
Nuevo Circo, Caracas, Venezuela D PTS 15 15
eferee: Luis Carlos Guzman 146-146 | judge: Horacio Castilla 146-146 | judge: Pedro Ramirez 146-147
WBC super flyweight title

1980-03-27 Mark Pacheco 7-1-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1980-02-19 Sergio Reyes 16-9-0
Shy Clown Casino, Sparks, Nevada, United States W KO 6

1979-11-30 Mario Chavez 21-9-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1979-08-08 Jose Luis Garcia 7-6-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

1978-05-10 Jose Carranza
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 7

1978-03-22 Tito Arzate 1-4-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1976-05-08 109 Guty Espadas 113 23-2-4
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1975-12-10 Tony Rocha 33-2-4
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
USBA flyweight title

1975-09-20 Lupe Pintor 9-1-0
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States L KO 7

1975-08-02 109 Adelaido Galindo 112 8-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10

1975-06-25 Candy Iglesias 2-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1975-05-14 Victor Seco Luna 1-1-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 4 4

1975-02-05 Harvey Wilson 5-12-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1974-03-13 John Meza 6-11-1
Circus Circus Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1974-01-23 Pedro Torres
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-28 Willie Vasquez
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-21 Danny Young 0-13-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1973-10-28 Jesse Trujillo 1-0-0
Stateline, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-10-03 Reynaldo Gutierrez
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2

1973-09-12 Joe Saldivar
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-06-30 Flash Zaldivar
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-06-16 John Meza 6-8-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-05-16 Jewell Chappell 2-8-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5

1973-05-02 112 Mato Espinoza 118
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

Yeah, I remember Bird Legs. He was training boxers at L.A. Boxing Club before they closed down a few years ago. He was a good little fighter out of Las Vegas. I remember back in 1967 when LA brought a team of juniors to Las Vegas for a card that was being held in the afternoon before a "Destruction Derby" event took place at a race track. I fought that day and so did your boys. Didn't Fernie fight Bird Legs? I remember Albert Davila fought and won, but I lost that day.

Yeah, Fernie fought Willie that day, and lost, hell! all three of my boys lost that day,,,something I wasn't used to seeing..

[bennie]

Rick, remember Willie?

Willie Jensen

division super flyweight

alias Birdlegs

country United States
residence Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

won 24 (KO 7) + lost 4 (KO 4) + drawn 2 = 30
rounds boxed 218 KO% 23.33

1982-10-13 115 Khaosai Galaxy 116 13-1-0
Bangkok, Thailand L KO 2

1982-06-22 114½ Humberto Rodriguez 118 5-6-0
Astro Arena, Houston, Texas, United States W PTS 10 10

1981-12-18 Alonzo Gonzalez 13-3-1
Bakersfield, California, United States L KO 5
1981-07-29 114 Chul Ho Kim 114½ 16-1-1

Kudok Gymnasium, Busan, South Korea L TKO 13 15
time: 1:18 | referee: Ray Solis | judge: Mike Jacobs 111-117 | judge: Arlen Bynum 113-116 | judge: Hyo-Kon Kim 113-120
WBC super flyweight title

1981-02-10 Julio Rodriguez 9-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 12 12
USBA flyweight title

1980-07-28 115 Rafael Orono 114½ 12-0-0
Nuevo Circo, Caracas, Venezuela D PTS 15 15
eferee: Luis Carlos Guzman 146-146 | judge: Horacio Castilla 146-146 | judge: Pedro Ramirez 146-147
WBC super flyweight title

1980-03-27 Mark Pacheco 7-1-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1980-02-19 Sergio Reyes 16-9-0
Shy Clown Casino, Sparks, Nevada, United States W KO 6

1979-11-30 Mario Chavez 21-9-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1979-08-08 Jose Luis Garcia 7-6-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

1978-05-10 Jose Carranza
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 7

1978-03-22 Tito Arzate 1-4-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10

1976-05-08 109 Guty Espadas 113 23-2-4
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1975-12-10 Tony Rocha 33-2-4
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
USBA flyweight title

1975-09-20 Lupe Pintor 9-1-0
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States L KO 7

1975-08-02 109 Adelaido Galindo 112 8-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10

1975-06-25 Candy Iglesias 2-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1975-05-14 Victor Seco Luna 1-1-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 4 4

1975-02-05 Harvey Wilson 5-12-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1974-03-13 John Meza 6-11-1
Circus Circus Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1974-01-23 Pedro Torres
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-28 Willie Vasquez
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-11-21 Danny Young 0-13-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5

1973-10-28 Jesse Trujillo 1-0-0
Stateline, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-10-03 Reynaldo Gutierrez
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2

1973-09-12 Joe Saldivar
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8

1973-06-30 Flash Zaldivar
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-06-16 John Meza 6-8-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1973-05-16 Jewell Chappell 2-8-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5

1973-05-02 112 Mato Espinoza 118
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3

Willie was robbed of a world title in Venezuela.

[bennie]

Alonzo "Strongbow" Gonzalez - what do you guys remember of him?

[kikibalt]

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Ring referee Joe Cortez calls Mayweather-Ortiz as he sees it

[Chuck1052]

Alonzo "Strongbow" Gonzalez - what do you guys remember of him?

I saw Alonzo "Strongbow" Gonzales win a fight in front of a sparse crowd at Strongbow Stadium in Bakersfield during the early 1980s. Harry Kabakoff was the promoter.

It was the first and only time that I saw a fight card at the venue, which had a capacity of about one thousand. The seating was set in a circular configuration around the ring. In my opinion, Strongbow Stadium and the Olympic Auditorium were the best venues to watch boxing cards in Southern California at the time. Of course, both venues were built with boxing and wrestling in mind.

- Chuck Johnston

[bennie]

Alonzo "Strongbow" Gonzalez - what do you guys remember of him?

I saw Alonzo "Strongbow" Gonzales win a fight in front of a sparse crowd at Strongbow Stadium in Bakersfield during the early 1980s. Harry Kabakoff was the promoter.

It was the first and only time that I saw a fight card at the venue, which had a capacity of about one thousand. The seating was set in a circular configuration around the ring. In my opinion, Strongbow Stadium and the Olympic Auditorium were the best venues to watch boxing cards in Southern California at the time. Of course, both venues were built with boxing and wrestling in mind.

- Chuck Johnston

Thanks, Chuck. I got on to his record via Willie Jensen, whom Gonzalez kayoed in five. Gonzalez was in pretty deep throughout his career and was never stopped.

[bennie]

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Ring referee Joe Cortez calls Mayweather-Ortiz as he sees it

Cortez was not decisive enough when the fighters came together. He even looked away from the fighters.