Tommy Morrison vs Floyd Patterson. What If?

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Tommy Morrison vs Floyd Patterson. What If?

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If there could have been a fight between Tommy Morrison and Floyd Patterson what do you think would have been the outcome?

Both these fighters had KO power, but both could also be hurt and drooped. Tommy I would imagine would have the edge in strength and size. Patterson the better speed and skills.

Would Morrison just be too big and strong for the smaller Patterson and just steamroller over him and KO him with that savage left hook of his?

Or would Patterson have the speed and technique to avoid the early onslaught and then counter with his own blistering fast, hard shots to drop 'The Duke'?

I lean towards the latter. But do you agree fight fans? :box:
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Post by Hesketh Vampire »

Hmm, I think Patterson would be dropped once or twice before forcing a KO victory inside a wild 2 or 3 rounds.
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Post by BrocktonBlockbuster49 »

in round 1, if patterson lands a couple hard left hooks which he will, tommy wil be out. patterson had a good left hook and great boxing skills and i think patterrson is more susceptble to a big uppercut rather than left hook. patterson much better skills than tommy and i think he will duck a couple big blows and knock tomym out with left hook.

if tommy catches him though, he will finish floyd.
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Post by zslayton »

I think Tommy comes out and tries to press and attack Floyd. He might catch Floyd once and drop him or hurt him, but Floyd would get up and ko the Duke before the end of the 4th round.
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Post by 6 Pack »

Patterson KO's the Duke.

Patterson was far too fast and in a fight between weak chinned bombers, he would land first. THat would be the fight.

The Duke would get hit more after that, and Patterson would finish. Patterson was VERY fast with his punches, may be the fastest of all time at heavyweight.

He would catch Morrison early. Patterson also had decent defence, better than the Duke.
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BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
if tommy catches him though, he will finish floyd.
Lol. Mate, Tommy was not Sonny Liston.

And the guys Floyd fought were a million miles ahead of anyone Tommy ever fought (except LL, who completely dominated Tommy.) Even pushing 40, Floyd had the skills to take care of live & dangerous bodies like Oscar Bonavena.

What the hell did Tommy ever do? Run from a 43 yr old man all night. Score a questionable stoppage over a rusted Razor Ruddock.

Floyd is LEAGUES over Tommy.
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overhand_right wrote:
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
if tommy catches him though, he will finish floyd.
Lol. Mate, Tommy was not Sonny Liston.

And the guys Floyd fought were a million miles ahead of anyone Tommy ever fought (except LL, who completely dominated Tommy.) Even pushing 40, Floyd had the skills to take care of live & dangerous bodies like Oscar Bonavena.

What the hell did Tommy ever do? Run from a 43 yr old man all night. Score a questionable stoppage over a rusted Razor Ruddock.

Floyd is LEAGUES over Tommy.
Agreed.

I actually watched the Foreman fight again a few days ago (considered Tommy's best victory, by critics) and Tommy literally turned his back on Foreman and walked away too many times to count.

Razor had fought once in 2 and a half years, was a career high in weight, and even then dropped TOmmy and was stoppage premature (especially, as Razor pointed out, that Tommy was punching himself out trying for the finish)

I just never seen why some many like Tommy so much.
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Post by witherspoon »

6 pack wrote:

I just never seen why some many like Tommy so much.

I'm guessing that your colourblind. :lol:
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Post by KOJOE90 »

witherspoon wrote:6 pack wrote:

I just never seen why some many like Tommy so much.

I'm guessing that your colourblind. :lol:
I always assumed it was more to do with the fact that in a Morrison fight you were almost allways in for a few knockdown either way.
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Post by ringsider »

You know, you guys are all cracked out. :TU: :roll: If you are going to be fantasizing then put some girls in there.......don't spend your time dreaming about who cares fights, that will never be.....between who cares opponents. :roll:
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ringsider wrote:You know, you guys are all cracked out. :TU: :roll: If you are going to be fantasizing then put some girls in there.......don't spend your time dream about who cares fights, that will never be.....between who cares opponents. :roll:
Who cares what you think eh???.... 8) :roll: :x ... not me!. :lol: :lol: :lol: ..
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ringsider wrote:You know, you guys are all cracked out. :TU: :roll: If you are going to be fantasizing then put some girls in there.......don't spend your time dream about who cares fights, that will never be.....between who cares opponents. :roll:
If you don't care, don't post. Quite simple really. :roll:
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Post by silkov »

I'd go for a Patterson win... too fast for Morrison, who was strong but far too mechanical and predicatable for me.
Having said that though his performance against Foreman was impressive. :box: :TU: 8)
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Post by witherspoon »

KOJOE90 wrote:
witherspoon wrote:6 pack wrote:

I just never seen why some many like Tommy so much.

I'm guessing that your colourblind. :lol:
I always assumed it was more to do with the fact that in a Morrison fight you were almost allways in for a few knockdown either way.
Sorry. Maybe that was a bit cynical. Morrison proved that the interest in him was justified, but i gotta maintain that he only emerged from the pack because.....(part in the rocky film did no harm, though)
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Post by 6 Pack »

witherspoon wrote:6 pack wrote:

I just never seen why some many like Tommy so much.

I'm guessing that your colourblind. :lol:
Nicely played :TU:

I agree
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Post by 6 Pack »

silkov wrote:I'd go for a Patterson win... too fast for Morrison, who was strong but far too mechanical and predicatable for me.
Having said that though his performance against Foreman was impressive. :box: :TU: 8)
You like his fight with Foreman?

He literally turned his back and walked away from exchanges!!! :o

Holyfield was impressive against Foreman. Holyfield would never give an opponent his back.

Like Ring magazine said "the Duke chose not to duke it out". He held up good, and I was shocked he didn't loose stamina, but that all means I am just shocked he lasted the full distance fighting (when that is impressive about a guy it says something about the guy's rep).

I was not impressed with the fight. Not with Morrison or George (who fail to cut off the ring AT ALL, or really slow Morrison down. )
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Post by dempseyfire »

Patterson all the way. Faster, actually a BETTER chin in my opinion (could Morrison have taken all of those big shots from Bonavena, Quarry, and Chuvalo and gone the distance? . . . no) MUCH better stamina. Better skilled, esp. defensively.
Morrison was a fan favorite, the 'toughman fighter' done good, who actually developed into a pretty good boxer (in terms of offense). He learned the Tyson hook-uppercut combo very well, and had a lotta heart. But his reliance on steroids and not roadwork ensured his stamina was HORRIBLE. I mean really bad. The Foreman fight doesn't show anything b/c he ran away the whole night from a guy who could've been his grandpa (and that was one, if not the worst, of Foreman's comeback performances) How he just collapsed vs Anderson, Purrity, and Mercer in the 4th-5th rounds was just pathetic. He deserved to lose against the Bossman, and his chin was not very strong-he got pasted by one-hit wonder Michael Bentt and obliterated by Lewis and Mercer. He was on his way to tiring out vs Ruddock when the ref did a premature stoppage when Morrison was basically throwing pitty-pat punches in bunches at Razor b/c he was already getting fatigued.

Floyd was a level above the DUke.
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For me this is an easy call and I am no way a Patterson Fan I could have done without his era. However, styles make fights and I see this as an easy win for Patterson with some fireworks along the way. And of course with Floyd's chin you would always be sort of on edge.

You know I have no problem imagining what might have been in boxing. In fact in this forum it's pretty creative some of the thoughts that end up in print.

As for the person who is not impressed with these types of imaginings, perhaps a spot of tea and toast would be to your liking. Or maybe take up pottery or have a star named after you. Just a few civil suggestions.
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Post by silkov »

BoxBuzz wrote:For me this is an easy call and I am no way a Patterson Fan I could have done without his era. However, styles make fights and I see this as an easy win for Patterson with some fireworks along the way. And of course with Floyd's chin you would always be sort of on edge.

You know I have no problem imagining what might have been in boxing. In fact in this forum it's pretty creative some of the thoughts that end up in print.

As for the person who is not impressed with these types of imaginings, perhaps a spot of tea and toast would be to your liking. Or maybe take up pottery or have a star named after you. Just a few civil suggestions.
To hell with civility :x :x :x :x tell him to stick it up his arse!.. :o :o :o :o :o :o :x :x :x :x :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :roll: :roll: :-? 8) .
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silkov wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:For me this is an easy call and I am no way a Patterson Fan I could have done without his era. However, styles make fights and I see this as an easy win for Patterson with some fireworks along the way. And of course with Floyd's chin you would always be sort of on edge.

You know I have no problem imagining what might have been in boxing. In fact in this forum it's pretty creative some of the thoughts that end up in print.

As for the person who is not impressed with these types of imaginings, perhaps a spot of tea and toast would be to your liking. Or maybe take up pottery or have a star named after you. Just a few civil suggestions.
To hell with civility :x :x :x :x tell him to stick it up his arse!.. :o :o :o :o :o :o :x :x :x :x :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :roll: :roll: :-? 8) .
Also the thing is with these mythical match-ups, apart from being fun IMO, is that most the time we end up talking about what fighters X & Y actually did or could do etc anyway.

Like I said earlier if your not interested in them don't post.

P.S. I have absolutely NO interest in Golf so I am off to find a Golf fans Forum and start posting I have no interest in their sport, bye. :TU: :D :TU:
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KOJOE90 wrote:
silkov wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:For me this is an easy call and I am no way a Patterson Fan I could have done without his era. However, styles make fights and I see this as an easy win for Patterson with some fireworks along the way. And of course with Floyd's chin you would always be sort of on edge.

You know I have no problem imagining what might have been in boxing. In fact in this forum it's pretty creative some of the thoughts that end up in print.

As for the person who is not impressed with these types of imaginings, perhaps a spot of tea and toast would be to your liking. Or maybe take up pottery or have a star named after you. Just a few civil suggestions.
To hell with civility :x :x :x :x tell him to stick it up his arse!.. :o :o :o :o :o :o :x :x :x :x :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :roll: :roll: :-? 8) .
Also the thing is with these mythical match-ups, apart from being fun IMO, is that most the time we end up talking about what fighters X & Y actually did or could do etc anyway.

Like I said earlier if your not interested in them don't post.

P.S. I have absolutely NO interest in Golf so I am off to find a Golf fans Forum and start posting I have no interest in their sport, bye. :TU: :D :TU:

Boxing fans have been arguing over what would happen if this fighter had met that fighter ever since the start of the game and really I would question someones genuine interest in boxing if they genuinely have never indulged in any 'dream' matchups!... :box:
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silkov wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
silkov wrote: To hell with civility :x :x :x :x tell him to stick it up his arse!.. :o :o :o :o :o :o :x :x :x :x :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :roll: :roll: :-? 8) .
Also the thing is with these mythical match-ups, apart from being fun IMO, is that most the time we end up talking about what fighters X & Y actually did or could do etc anyway.

Like I said earlier if your not interested in them don't post.

P.S. I have absolutely NO interest in Golf so I am off to find a Golf fans Forum and start posting I have no interest in their sport, bye. :TU: :D :TU:

Boxing fans have been arguing over what would happen if this fighter had met that fighter ever since the start of the game and really I would question someones genuine interest in boxing if they genuinely have never indulged in any 'dream' matchups!... :box:
Agreed. :TU:
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Post by tiredoldngrey »

Last night I watched Patterson v. Hurricane Jackson....Too fast too hard hitting too everything for Morrison, who would need one punch from the heavens to win here because if Flod got up he'd take up where he left offf and KO Morrison anyway.
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