Terry Mcgovern vs Sandy Saddler

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 20 Jul 2005, 22:51

battle of two hardest hitting featherweights in history

who wins????? perhaps the fact that saddler could box as well as hit, while mcgovern wasnt much of a polished fighter could give saddler the edge. but mcgovern was a very hard hitter and powerful fighter.

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 20 Jul 2005, 23:06

I'm sure Barry will weigh in on this, and probably disagree.

I think Saddler wins this one by KO. Saddler (5-8 70") was much bigger than McGovern (5-3 65"). McGovern relied on power and intimidation and he wouldn't have intimidated Saddler or knocked him out. Saddler was knocked out only in his pro debut, and McGovern certainly wouldn't outbox Saddler. Saddler gets him in the middle to late rounds like Corbett did.

barry · Post by **barry** » 22 Jul 2005, 00:08

McGovern is without a doubt my favorite featherweight and one of my favorite fighters ever and he was one of the best of all time. I have never put together a list of any all time featherweights so I cannot say who I would have ranked higher because I had never really given it any thought, but right off the top of my mind, Saddler I think would beat McGovern, probably relatively easy. At bantamweight McGovern was unstoppable, but he was not as invincible at the featherweight limit and due to the fact that Saddler not only was a great boxer, he was bigger physically than McGovern and was without a doubt a brutal puncher. He could get just as dirty as anyone wanted to get, was very tough and I don't think McGovern would be able to walk through his punches like he did some...I don't think Saddler was ever knocked out, but he was too good technically for McGovern, which with his overall size advantage would just be too much for McGovern...but Terry could always get lucky and land a bomb, but not likely!

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 22 Jul 2005, 01:02

barry if his best days were at bantamweight than perhaps a better match would be RUBEN OLIVARES VS TERRY MCGOVERN???

who u think will win that barry

Chuck1052 · Post by **Chuck1052** » 22 Jul 2005, 01:39

When Ruben Olivares was in great shape and focused in
his prime, he was one tough fighter to beat. Olivares
had plenty of power, but he also could box very well
when he had to as Alexis Arguello found out.

It is my understanding that Terry McGovern was a
tremendous offensive machine who relied on
aggression and terrific punching power.

- Chuck Johnston

barry · Post by **barry** » 22 Jul 2005, 06:25

I hate to even try to pick a winner as they both are big favorites. I do know that McGovern didn't just walk through and brutally knockout only one type of boxer, but he did it to several types...sluggers, very skilled stylists, boxer-punchers, very-skilled hard punching stylists, very good opponents that were much bigger than he was...he fought them all and pretty much dominated all until his training started to slump due to his out of ring activities, mainly stage acting and the night life...when he went into that his boxing career suffered greatly. He just simply did not train like he did before the theatre ventures.

I think McGovern in his prime would be hard for any fighter to withstand the onslaught that he brought. There was nothing stylish about his style, he just waded in and beat his opponents down, pretty much better than just about anyone in history...including Ketchel or Dempsey. People make a lot of noise about the rather short time that he was at the top, but in that short time he beat pretty much every top fighter in his weight range. His biggest ill was his temper, so a smart fighter go easily get him out of his game, just like Corbett did.

Olivares, well...I don't think McGovern faced anyone that punched like Olivares, with the exception of Aurelio Herrera. Herrera hurt McGovern in one round ( the third I think), but his recoup powers were as good as it could get because he came right out in the next round and put Herrera away...did the eact same thing against Oscar Gardner also, but he had to hold on for life against Gardner. Like Chuck said, Olivares could box damn smooth if he wanted to, but his power was the thing that made him so special and dangerous...damn...I'd go with McGovern in two in a bout very much like Hearns-Hagler, but it could easily go the other way around!