If The Klitschko's Keep On Fighting, Who Beats One Of Them?

[Mukel]

No one at present will beat the Klitschko's.
David Haye had the best chance and he couldnt do the job, I think he could have performed better than he did but
on the night he didnt so thats that. Solis looked good for the first couple of minutes but we'll never know what would have happened if his knee didnt fall apart.

Povetkin doesnt hit hard enough to trouble either brother, he simply isnt big enough.
Arreola is raw and has a punchers chance as does anyone but he lacks the skill to do the job.

Everyone else has had there chance and failed or there too old.

Lets see how the crop of prospects develop, but as it stands none of them would see the final bell.

[ThereByTheGrace]

David Haye!

Oh wait.....

[funso banjo baby]

anybody please

[whiskey]

Odlanier Solis if he gets his lardy arse into shape and his shattered knee finally fixed.

He only pulled about 3 moves in that 1 minute of action, but he is a man with serious ability under that onion loaf of a body.

[jamesmcdonnell]

No one at present will beat the Klitschko's.
David Haye had the best chance and he couldnt do the job, I think he could have performed better than he did but
on the night he didnt so thats that. Solis looked good for the first couple of minutes but we'll never know what would have happened if his knee didnt fall apart.

Povetkin doesnt hit hard enough to trouble either brother, he simply isnt big enough.
Arreola is raw and has a punchers chance as does anyone but he lacks the skill to do the job.

Everyone else has had there chance and failed or there too old.

Lets see how the crop of prospects develop, but as it stands none of them would see the final bell.

Haye never had a chance.....they knew it, and he knew it. Arreola is too easy to hit.

There is nobody out there with the right combination of skills, genetic and experience. Any of the young guns are going to get taken apart, due to both brothers having learnt to nullify their opponents offence.

[keithmoonhangover]

No one at present will beat the Klitschko's.
David Haye had the best chance and he couldnt do the job, I think he could have performed better than he did but
on the night he didnt so thats that. Solis looked good for the first couple of minutes but we'll never know what would have happened if his knee didnt fall apart.

Povetkin doesnt hit hard enough to trouble either brother, he simply isnt big enough.
Arreola is raw and has a punchers chance as does anyone but he lacks the skill to do the job.

Everyone else has had there chance and failed or there too old.

Lets see how the crop of prospects develop, but as it stands none of them would see the final bell.

Haye never had a chance.....they knew it, and he knew it. Arreola is too easy to hit.

There is nobody out there with the right combination of skills, genetic and experience. Any of the young guns are going to get taken apart, due to both brothers having learnt to nullify their opponents offence.

So you're saying they'll never get beaten?

[jamesmcdonnell]

This man will be ready to beat either Klitschko a year from now.

When I first saw clips of Mansour on youtube, I thought "Holy sh*t! This guy's good!", but then you read the back story and look at the level of opponent prior to Guinn and you start wondering.

I agree though, you look at the current field and he stands out, somewhat.

The guy is almost 40 already, he's going to be over before he's began.

[keithmoonhangover]

Am I the only person in the UK (and that includes the recent Boxing News) who realises that when one talks about Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko collectively; it is spelled Klitschkos, not Klitschko's????

It's a plural not a possessive.... Sorry just a personal hate of mine

My grammar and spelling are sh1t, but anyone who knows me already knows this. I noticed after I'd typed it, but I couldn't be arsed to change it. You know what it means, what's the big deal?

[yiddo14]

Nobody out there can beat Wlad right now. In a years time who knows? Wlad could age overnight although very unlikely.

I think both will probably walk away from the game whilst at the top. Vitali within the next year and little brother within 3 years. Wouldn't be massively surprised if Vitali gets beat though if he has a couple more. He is at that age where he could "go" overnight.

[keithmoonhangover]

Nobody out there can beat Wlad right now. In a years time who knows? Wlad could age overnight although very unlikely.

I think both will probably walk away from the game whilst at the top. Vitali within the next year and little brother within 3 years. Wouldn't be massively surprised if Vitali gets beat though if he has a couple more. He is at that age where he could "go" overnight.

Who beats him Yiddo14?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Nobody out there can beat Wlad right now. In a years time who knows? Wlad could age overnight although very unlikely.

I think both will probably walk away from the game whilst at the top. Vitali within the next year and little brother within 3 years. Wouldn't be massively surprised if Vitali gets beat though if he has a couple more. He is at that age where he could "go" overnight.

Vitali is in amazing shape for his age, i think he could go on a while yet.

I think Vitali is likely to retire out of boredom and lack of a decent challenge more than anything else.

Maybe someone should drug Wlad, and then set him up, by strangling Vital's missus, and framing him, and we might actually get to see them in a competitive fight.....its the one interesting fight out there in the heavyweight division.

[yiddo14]

I just have a sneaky feeling we don't really know how robust he really is thesedays and at his age ( if he were 30 then nobody out there right now would have any chance at all ) it wouldn't be such a huge shock to see him lose.

[LeedsLad]

I agree that Vitali is the more vulnerable of the two right now.

The problem is the lack of opponents with the willingness to lay it all on the line, Adamek gave it his all but was ultimately way too small and was destroyed, Haye talks a good game but would be better suited to the British cycling team and the rest are either crap or don't fancy the job (cough Povetkin cough)

Wlad could carry on for another five years doing exactly what he's doing, perhaps longer. He won't lose until he just gets bored and is sparked almost by accident.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I just have a sneaky feeling we don't really know how robust he really is thesedays and at his age ( if he were 30 then nobody out there right now would have any chance at all ) it wouldn't be such a huge shock to see him lose.

His chin isn't likely to go. It's not like he's been in loads of tear ups.

The most likely reason for retirement would be injury, or boredom - he seems injury free for the last few years, but something could go again.

Vitali has perfected his style to such an extent, that its hard to imagine anyone being able to even trouble him, much less beat him.

Wlad has always been more brittle mentally and physically, I doubt it will happen, but of the two, he's the more likely to lose.

[charlieb]

This man will be ready to beat either Klitschko a year from now.

When I first saw clips of Mansour on youtube, I thought "Holy sh*t! This guy's good!", but then you read the back story and look at the level of opponent prior to Guinn and you start wondering.

I agree though, you look at the current field and he stands out, somewhat.

The guy is almost 40 already, he's going to be over before he's began.

Yeah, that's the tricky part, but in his defence, losing 8 years inside is still better than 8 years spent being bashed up and worn to pieces as a pro. He certainly doesn't look or fight like a guy in decline. If anything, he's looked electric from what I've seen, albeit against lesser guys.

I wouldn't go proclaiming him the guy to dethrone either Klitschko, but at the same time, prospect watching at heavy usually begins by hearing about a guy who sounds decent and ends in disappointment when you actually see them fight. Mansour goes against that grain bigtime for me, I'd suggest anyone who hasn't seen him fight, check him out, you might feel the same.

I'm keeping it in perspective though, he leaves a few too many openings being such an offensive fighter and could come a cropper against the likes of Solis, Stiverne or Arreola, but at the same time those would all be seriously fun fights.

[DavidPayne]

Cedric Boswell.

[doctorboxing]

Wlad was drugged in the Brewster fight so it has been done before, claimed excessive Vaseline did for him. The only one who has ever suffered injury from an excess of Vaseline is the bloke from Barrymore's pool.

Although it could be argued he never had enough of it going by his reported injuries!

[exittored]

When I first saw clips of Mansour on youtube, I thought "Holy sh*t! This guy's good!", but then you read the back story and look at the level of opponent prior to Guinn and you start wondering.

I agree though, you look at the current field and he stands out, somewhat.

The guy is almost 40 already, he's going to be over before he's began.

Yeah, that's the tricky part, but in his defence, losing 8 years inside is still better than 8 years spent being bashed up and worn to pieces as a pro. He certainly doesn't look or fight like a guy in decline. If anything, he's looked electric from what I've seen, albeit against lesser guys.

I wouldn't go proclaiming him the guy to dethrone either Klitschko, but at the same time, prospect watching at heavy usually begins by hearing about a guy who sounds decent and ends in disappointment when you actually see them fight. Mansour goes against that grain bigtime for me, I'd suggest anyone who hasn't seen him fight, check him out, you might feel the same.

I'm keeping it in perspective though, he leaves a few too many openings being such an offensive fighter and could come a cropper against the likes of Solis, Stiverne or Arreola, but at the same time those would all be seriously fun fights.

His age isn't an issue, he keeps himself in fantastic shape and has very little wear and tear on his body. Some of the best boxers around at the moment are similar age or older like Bhops, JMM, Sergio Martinez and Vitali K.

If all goes to plan then Amir will be World Heavyweight champion within the next 18 months. I actually think Vitali will probably retire after 2 more fights so that leaves just Wladimir which makes sense for Mansour as he's now rated No8 by the WBO so would be eligable as a voluntary defence.

He may not be a longterm solution for the Heavyweight division but once he's champion he'll make Heavyweight title fights exciting again even if he only ends up making a few defences.

[zero]

The guy is almost 40 already, he's going to be over before he's began.

Yeah, that's the tricky part, but in his defence, losing 8 years inside is still better than 8 years spent being bashed up and worn to pieces as a pro. He certainly doesn't look or fight like a guy in decline. If anything, he's looked electric from what I've seen, albeit against lesser guys.

I wouldn't go proclaiming him the guy to dethrone either Klitschko, but at the same time, prospect watching at heavy usually begins by hearing about a guy who sounds decent and ends in disappointment when you actually see them fight. Mansour goes against that grain bigtime for me, I'd suggest anyone who hasn't seen him fight, check him out, you might feel the same.

I'm keeping it in perspective though, he leaves a few too many openings being such an offensive fighter and could come a cropper against the likes of Solis, Stiverne or Arreola, but at the same time those would all be seriously fun fights.

His age isn't an issue, he keeps himself in fantastic shape and has very little wear and tear on his body. Some of the best boxers around at the moment are similar age or older like Bhops, JMM, Sergio Martinez and Vitali K.

If all goes to plan then Amir will be World Heavyweight champion within the next 18 months. I actually think Vitali will probably retire after 2 more fights so that leaves just Wladimir which makes sense for Mansour as he's now rated No8 by the WBO so would be eligable as a voluntary defence.

He may not be a longterm solution for the Heavyweight division but once he's champion he'll make Heavyweight title fights exciting again even if he only ends up making a few defences.

Are you Amir Mansour?

I still can’t believe people think he will be world champion within 18 months baffling……..

He has a cracking set of arms though….

[exittored]

Yeah, that's the tricky part, but in his defence, losing 8 years inside is still better than 8 years spent being bashed up and worn to pieces as a pro. He certainly doesn't look or fight like a guy in decline. If anything, he's looked electric from what I've seen, albeit against lesser guys.

I wouldn't go proclaiming him the guy to dethrone either Klitschko, but at the same time, prospect watching at heavy usually begins by hearing about a guy who sounds decent and ends in disappointment when you actually see them fight. Mansour goes against that grain bigtime for me, I'd suggest anyone who hasn't seen him fight, check him out, you might feel the same.

I'm keeping it in perspective though, he leaves a few too many openings being such an offensive fighter and could come a cropper against the likes of Solis, Stiverne or Arreola, but at the same time those would all be seriously fun fights.

His age isn't an issue, he keeps himself in fantastic shape and has very little wear and tear on his body. Some of the best boxers around at the moment are similar age or older like Bhops, JMM, Sergio Martinez and Vitali K.

If all goes to plan then Amir will be World Heavyweight champion within the next 18 months. I actually think Vitali will probably retire after 2 more fights so that leaves just Wladimir which makes sense for Mansour as he's now rated No8 by the WBO so would be eligable as a voluntary defence.

He may not be a longterm solution for the Heavyweight division but once he's champion he'll make Heavyweight title fights exciting again even if he only ends up making a few defences.

Are you Amir Mansour?

I still can’t believe people think he will be world champion within 18 months baffling……..

He has a cracking set of arms though….

You're right to be cynical especially when it comes to hyped-up Heavyweights but this guy Mansour is the real deal and has the hunger and burning ambition to become the Heavyweight champion of the world in the same way a young Mike Tyson did 25 years ago and it's very hard to stop a man like that.

He'll certainly bring it and make a fight of it which is something that the following Klitschko victims didn't do:

David Haye, Samuel Peter, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Tony Thompson, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Ray Austin, Calvin Brock, Chris Byrd, Tomasz Adamek, Odlanier Solis, Shannon Briggs, Albert Sosnowski, Kevin Johnson, Chris Arreola and Juan Carlos Gomez.

He is also very articulate and intelligent having gained a Law degree and would bring a much needed resurrection to the Heavyweight title in America especially as his backstory would make for the ultimate 'comeback' story and we all know Americans love one of those.

[reggaereggae]

Am I the only person in the UK (and that includes the recent Boxing News) who realises that when one talks about Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko collectively; it is spelled Klitschkos, not Klitschko's????

It's a plural not a possessive.... Sorry just a personal hate of mine

My grammar and spelling are sh1t, but anyone who knows me already knows this. I noticed after I'd typed it, but I couldn't be arsed to change it. You know what it means, what's the big deal?

I know, it's no big deal, everyone has their pet hates. The heavy division is really dry apart from the klits who will be retiring fairly soon I imagine

[jamesmcdonnell]

His age isn't an issue, he keeps himself in fantastic shape and has very little wear and tear on his body. Some of the best boxers around at the moment are similar age or older like Bhops, JMM, Sergio Martinez and Vitali K.

If all goes to plan then Amir will be World Heavyweight champion within the next 18 months. I actually think Vitali will probably retire after 2 more fights so that leaves just Wladimir which makes sense for Mansour as he's now rated No8 by the WBO so would be eligable as a voluntary defence.

He may not be a longterm solution for the Heavyweight division but once he's champion he'll make Heavyweight title fights exciting again even if he only ends up making a few defences.

Are you Amir Mansour?

I still can’t believe people think he will be world champion within 18 months baffling……..

He has a cracking set of arms though….

You're right to be cynical especially when it comes to hyped-up Heavyweights but this guy Mansour is the real deal and has the hunger and burning ambition to become the Heavyweight champion of the world in the same way a young Mike Tyson did 25 years ago and it's very hard to stop a man like that.

He'll certainly bring it and make a fight of it which is something that the following Klitschko victims didn't do:

David Haye, Samuel Peter, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Tony Thompson, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Ray Austin, Calvin Brock, Chris Byrd, Tomasz Adamek, Odlanier Solis, Shannon Briggs, Albert Sosnowski, Kevin Johnson, Chris Arreola and Juan Carlos Gomez.

He is also very articulate and intelligent having gained a Law degree and would bring a much needed resurrection to the Heavyweight title in America especially as his backstory would make for the ultimate 'comeback' story and we all know Americans love one of those.

Yes, but he lacks experience, and by the time he gains it, he's going to be in his mid 40's already.

He can punch for sure, but at what level - also he's very short, and nowhere near as quick as Tyson was in his prime, and at 40 he's not going to be getting any quicker.

He also looks like he is very much a bulked up man. Look at a young tyson, nowhere near as much muscle bulk.

All that muscle is going to mean he tires very quickly.

He may make a fight of it, and he would have a punchers chance against Wlad, but I doubt he'd get near him.

[exittored]

Are you Amir Mansour?

I still can’t believe people think he will be world champion within 18 months baffling……..

He has a cracking set of arms though….

You're right to be cynical especially when it comes to hyped-up Heavyweights but this guy Mansour is the real deal and has the hunger and burning ambition to become the Heavyweight champion of the world in the same way a young Mike Tyson did 25 years ago and it's very hard to stop a man like that.

He'll certainly bring it and make a fight of it which is something that the following Klitschko victims didn't do:

David Haye, Samuel Peter, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Tony Thompson, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Ray Austin, Calvin Brock, Chris Byrd, Tomasz Adamek, Odlanier Solis, Shannon Briggs, Albert Sosnowski, Kevin Johnson, Chris Arreola and Juan Carlos Gomez.

He is also very articulate and intelligent having gained a Law degree and would bring a much needed resurrection to the Heavyweight title in America especially as his backstory would make for the ultimate 'comeback' story and we all know Americans love one of those.

Yes, but he lacks experience, and by the time he gains it, he's going to be in his mid 40's already.

He can punch for sure, but at what level - also he's very short, and nowhere near as quick as Tyson was in his prime, and at 40 he's not going to be getting any quicker.

He also looks like he is very much a bulked up man. Look at a young tyson, nowhere near as much muscle bulk.

All that muscle is going to mean he tires very quickly.

He may make a fight of it, and he would have a punchers chance against Wlad, but I doubt he'd get near him.

He'll be ready to fight either Klitchko a year from now and he'll only be a young 40 years old. He will make for a very exciting stopgap for a year or two untill hopefully a younger dominant Heavyweight comes along.

He actually has very good muscle proportion on his body, he's around 6ft and 225 lbs which may be considered small for a modern heavyweight but he uses his size to his advantage and a disadvantage to his opponent in the same way the young Mike Tyson did.

His plan to fight the Klischkos is a hell of alot better then anything i've heard or seen their past opponents do.

Amir Mansour: "I'll Break Klitschko's Arm & Beat Both Wladimir and Vitali"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roOPLLX1 ... re=related

[keithmoonhangover]

You're right to be cynical especially when it comes to hyped-up Heavyweights but this guy Mansour is the real deal and has the hunger and burning ambition to become the Heavyweight champion of the world in the same way a young Mike Tyson did 25 years ago and it's very hard to stop a man like that.

He'll certainly bring it and make a fight of it which is something that the following Klitschko victims didn't do:

David Haye, Samuel Peter, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Tony Thompson, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Ray Austin, Calvin Brock, Chris Byrd, Tomasz Adamek, Odlanier Solis, Shannon Briggs, Albert Sosnowski, Kevin Johnson, Chris Arreola and Juan Carlos Gomez.

He is also very articulate and intelligent having gained a Law degree and would bring a much needed resurrection to the Heavyweight title in America especially as his backstory would make for the ultimate 'comeback' story and we all know Americans love one of those.

Yes, but he lacks experience, and by the time he gains it, he's going to be in his mid 40's already.

He can punch for sure, but at what level - also he's very short, and nowhere near as quick as Tyson was in his prime, and at 40 he's not going to be getting any quicker.

He also looks like he is very much a bulked up man. Look at a young tyson, nowhere near as much muscle bulk.

All that muscle is going to mean he tires very quickly.

He may make a fight of it, and he would have a punchers chance against Wlad, but I doubt he'd get near him.

He'll be ready to fight either Klitchko a year from now and he'll only be a young 40 years old. He will make for a very exciting stopgap for a year or two untill hopefully a younger dominant Heavyweight comes along.

He actually has very good muscle proportion on his body, he's around 6ft and 225 lbs which may be considered small for a modern heavyweight but he uses his size to his advantage and a disadvantage to his opponent in the same way the young Mike Tyson did.

His plan to fight the Klischkos is a hell of alot better then anything i've heard or seen their past opponents do.

Amir Mansour: "I'll Break Klitschko's Arm & Beat Both Wladimir and Vitali"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roOPLLX1 ... re=related

Povetkin would eat Mansour alive. Wake me up when he gets in the ring with some one who tries to win.

[exittored]

He'll be ready to fight either Klitchko a year from now and he'll only be a young 40 years old. He will make for a very exciting stopgap for a year or two untill hopefully a younger dominant Heavyweight comes along.

He actually has very good muscle proportion on his body, he's around 6ft and 225 lbs which may be considered small for a modern heavyweight but he uses his size to his advantage and a disadvantage to his opponent in the same way the young Mike Tyson did.

His plan to fight the Klischkos is a hell of alot better then anything i've heard or seen their past opponents do.

Amir Mansour: "I'll Break Klitschko's Arm & Beat Both Wladimir and Vitali"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roOPLLX1 ... re=related

Povetkin would eat Mansour alive. Wake me up when he gets in the ring with some one who tries to win.

They'd have to wake up Povetkin too if he ever dared get in the ring with Amir, this is what would happen to him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIcRS4il ... grec_index

and unlike Povetkin, Mansour would fight either Klitschko tomorrow which isn't something your man has had the cojones to do so far or probably ever will despite being a professional for 6 years now plus can you even defend the fact he's fighting a 49 year old next...no i didn't think so and that alone just shows how little faith his management have in him.