2011 national pal toledo ohio thread

[champion]

Results and info here

[champion]

typical work from national p.a.l. slow as mollases with draw brackets and bout sheets

[boxmel]

typical work from national p.a.l. slow as mollases with draw brackets and bout sheets

Decision was made by Admin to use Tournament Builder (manul draw program) rather than the computer draw. Don't know why. No afternoon session today, 9 bouts on two rings and 10 on ring 3 this evening.

Ring I:
112 Open
Nicole Pasillas, Aurora, CO vs. Virginia Fuchs, Kemah, TX
Mary Vellinga, Salt Lake City, UT vs. Dascia Villa, Mesquite, TX

132 Open
Vanessa Jackson, Columbus, OH vs. Caroline Barry, Ft. Carson, CO
Berta Aracil, Yonkers, NY vs. Kymmberli Stowe, Red Lion, PA
Patricia Manuel, Long Beach, CA vs. Talanee Tillery, Capitol Heights, MD
Luisa Matali, Denver, CO vs. Selina Barrios, San Antonio, TX (I believe that Barrios never showed up for weigh ins)

141 Lbs.
Steve Belmontes, Corpus Christi, TX vs. Thomas Mattice, Cleveland, OH

152 Lbs.
Kirk Bills, Park Forest, IL vs. Samuel Vasquez, Coloroado Springs, OH
Moshea Aleem, Richmond, VA vs. Verbain Curry, Wellington, FL

Ring 2
112 Lbs. Open
Ayanna Vasquez, Las Cruces, NM vs. Rianna Rios, Alice, TX
Marina Ramirez, Las Vegas, NV vs. Tyrieshia Douglas, Baltimore , MD

132 Lbs. Open
Mikaela Mayer, Los Angeles, CA vs. N'Yteeyah Sherman, Barberton, OH
Elizabeth Leddy, Portland, ME vs. Ariel Beck, Helena, MT
Amora Baca, Denver, CO vs. Nakarri Jones, Tampa, FL (Jones wins by medical DQ)
Ishika Lay, Jacksonville, FL vs. Alycia Baumgardner, Freemont, OH

152 Lbs. Open
Richard Gorham, Indianapolis, IN vs. Jose Aviles, Howell, NJ

165 Open
Dara Shen, Annandale, VA vs. Allana Huggins, Ft. Worth, TX (possible W/O win by Shen as Huggins was a probable no show at weighins)
Maria Dominguez, Wauchula, FL vs. Tacra Hughes, Cleveland, HO

Ring 3
132 Open
Robert O'Quinn, Detroit, MI vs. William Flenoy, Cleveland, OH
Steven Lawrence, Albemarle, NC vs. Moses Molina, Bridgeton, NJ
Toka Kahn Clary, Providence, RI vs. Jay Lee, Vero Beach, FL
Sonny Frederickson, Toledo, OH vs. Zachary Purdy, Indianapolis, IN

152 Open
Leshawn Rodriguez, Shirley, NY vs. Thomas Hill, Milwaukee, WI
Nick Delomba,Cranston, RI vs. Wesley Tucker, Toledo, OH
Jesse Nares, Oxnard, CA vs. Sammie Millhouse, Bamberg, SC

165 Open
Lamont Johnson, Raddock, PA vs. Russell Gaskins, Washington, DC
Obafemi Bakare, Staten Island, NY vs. Joaquim Lebron, Columbus, OH
Jermaine Howlett, Chicago, IL vs. Rick Graham, Toledo, HO

Yes, I'm in Toledo. Unless I find out that someone else is posting the official results (Nicki is here from the USAB office), I'll try to keep y'all updated.
Since I'm judging this week, I will not post my opinions on any of the boxers or their bouts - so please don't ask.

[boxmel]

As I suspected, bout sheets and results will be posted on USA Boxing's web site = http://www.usaboxing.org. For those of you following the women's competition (PAL is the last qualifier to make the Olympic Trials), Carrie Barry, 132 Lbs., was doing very well in her bout with Vanessa Jackson but popped her knee, causing her to lose by RSC.

[UntilTheNextRound72]

As I suspected, bout sheets and results will be posted on USA Boxing's web site = http://www.usaboxing.org. For those of you following the women's competition (PAL is the last qualifier to make the Olympic Trials), Carrie Barry, 132 Lbs., was doing very well in her bout with Vanessa Jackson but popped her knee, causing her to lose by RSC.

Was there a Female boxer at 132 Mel who supposedly had fallen into a coma during her bout? Wondering if she was ok?!

[PBPALBG]

Hey Mel USA boxing website is not doing the job, no info since yesterdays results no bout sheets for today

[415BOXING]

USA Boxing is doing a terrible job on the bout sheets/results of this tournament!

[champion]

i know wth!

[Dennis]

USA Boxing is providing the results. They just add to the prior results page. Unfortunately, the date linking to the page still says "2011 PAL Brackets and Bout Sheets, Rob Howe - Oct 03, 2011" which makes people think it hasn't changed since October 3rd. It has. Just go to that page and then click on "National PAL Results".

Now it is true that they have not posted the new bout sheets since Tuesday.

[boxmel]

Was there a Female boxer at 132 Mel who supposedly had fallen into a coma during her bout? Wondering if she was ok?!

Ishika Lay from Florida was competing on Tuesday night. She looked fine, was taking some punches but nothing to warrant an 8 count. She was backing up to the ropes, retreating from her opponent, and her legs just gave way and she collapsed to the canvas. She was unresponsive for a long time and was transported to the hospital, with oxygen going, once they got her as stable as possible. The word last night is that she is still in critical condition and in a coma. It appears that there were prior medical problems and events that were not known that could have contributed to her current condition. A heartfelt prayer was said for Ishika before the bouts started last night and we are all hoping for the best.

[Dennis]

I will pray for Ishika and hope all other coaches, officials, boxers and fans do the same.

[UntilTheNextRound72]

I will pray for Ishika and hope all other coaches, officials, boxers and fans do the same.

God's Blessings for her and her family.

[Hubba]

Does anyone have the results of any bouts from the pal?

[mike222]

Saturday Championship bouts so far
Men
108 Santos Vasquez dec Lawrence Singh 26-11
114 Shawn Simpson dec Abel Soriano 15-7
123 Gary Antonio Russell dec Eduardo Martinez 31-30
Women
106 Amy Sowers dec Colleen Loo 28-12
112 Tyreisha Douglas dec Virginia Fuchs 22-12
119 Amanda Pavone dec Araceli Tinoco 19-14
125 Shane Ruelas dec Kristie Simmons 21-18

[mike222]

Men
132 Albert Bell dec Toka Khan Clary 24-14
141 Javontay Clark dec John Oliver 23-9
152 Samuel Vasquez dec Cristino Ceballo 19-12
165 Daniel Valdivia dec Brandon Lavardian 25-16
178 Dmitrius Ballard dec Larry Hampp 19-7
201 Kent Brinson dec Javonta Charles 10-9
+201 Edward Latimore stopped Matt Maloney RSC 3
Women
132 Nyteehah Sherman dec Patricia Manuel 21-20
165 Clarissa Shields dec Andrecia Wasson 31-13
178 Tyler Lord Wilder stopped Chamita Johnson RSC 3

[T Duquette]

Two people from Ohio win at 132 and 141. Sounds a little suspect... I heard the judging was terribly biased

[champion]

a little but really just the norm like in texas the referees were bad though alotta disqualifications worst judging was of gary antonio russel fight he really lost getting outworked the whole crowd erupted when he was announced winner
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[boxmel]

Two people from Ohio win at 132 and 141. Sounds a little suspect... I heard the judging was terribly biased

Hearing and seeing are two different things. And please remember that the biggest percentage of the boxers were from Ohio so it would make sense that there were several Ohio champions who won legitimately.

Regarding the judging: there was a shortage this year, which makes scheduling difficult. Judges did not work their own LBC or region, with the exception of one or two who had to judge someone in their region due to the shortage during the week - in that case, only one was used with the other four judges coming from other regions. This was not the case in the championships. There were 6 Ohio boxers (male and female) in the open championships. One bout was Ohio vs. Ohio. Ohio had 4 wins (1 by RSC) and 2 losses.

Regarding disqualifications - if boxers didn't foul, they wouldn't get disqualified. And there were no DQs in the championships. Regarding the Gary Russell bout - he has a very large lead in the first round and won by only one point.

[PBPALBG]

Mel did you get a chance to see Verbain Curry 152 Bronze from Florida, if so what did you think? would like to hear others opinion also, only his second national competition

[boxmel]

Mel did you get a chance to see Verbain Curry 152 Bronze from Florida, if so what did you think? would like to hear others opinion also, only his second national competition

Sorry, I don't recognize the name. We had three rings until up to and including the Saturday noon session. I didn't keep my ring assignments so I can't look and see if he was on Ring 1. :( If he wasn't, I didn't see him box. Getting to the semifinals in his second national tournament is a good accomplishment.

[PBPALBG]

OK Thanks Mel, anyone else see Verbain Curry a 152

[toddh5220]

I helped Derick with Verbain all week. He is still waiting just a little too much to win a national championship. He should trust the corner instruction a little more, and become aggressive against top guys. He did well (in spite of waiting a lot) until he ran into Sammy Vasquez, who is coming off of a 4th place finish at the Olympic trials, Verbain just didn't push the action until the 3rd round.

While I agree with Mel about a lot of Ohio boxers in the finals, I still beleive there were some bad decisions, especially the 132 final. Bell is a good kid, but there is not enough alcohol in the state of Ohio, to convince me he won that large over Toka, sorry I just don't know what the judges were watching. Sorry just my opinion. I think they got the Russell bout correct, there was some home cooking at 132.

[PBPALBG]

Yes Verbain is naturally a counter puncher, he does need to be more aggressive

[boxmel]

I still beleive there were some bad decisions, especially the 132 final. Bell is a good kid, but there is not enough alcohol in the state of Ohio, to convince me he won that large over Toka, sorry I just don't know what the judges were watching. Sorry just my opinion. I think they got the Russell bout correct, there was some home cooking at 132.

You are, of course, entitled to your one-point-of-view spectator opinion....... 8) Clary lost by 5 points; none of the judges were from his LBC or region and, frankly, I thought he waited just a bit too much (watching, not judging).

[T Duquette]

I still beleive there were some bad decisions, especially the 132 final. Bell is a good kid, but there is not enough alcohol in the state of Ohio, to convince me he won that large over Toka, sorry I just don't know what the judges were watching. Sorry just my opinion. I think they got the Russell bout correct, there was some home cooking at 132.

You are, of course, entitled to your one-point-of-view spectator opinion....... 8) Clary lost by 5 points; none of the judges were from his LBC or region and, frankly, I thought he waited just a bit too much (watching, not judging).

Up above it said he lost by 10 pts. I wasnt there but i also doubt it for what its worth.