Watching Duran train was great to see. The only thing that was that when he held open sessions, there was not much room to the side to watch him and he literally drew hundreds of people. Because of my father-we got inside (believe me there were literally dozens outside waiting a chance to get in). I got a good view of him in the ring which was naturally raised up,but when he skipped rope or worked the bags -I only got glimpses since we were behind other guys and photogs. Non-the-less for me and my father it was a great time.
My father was introduced as a ringside spectator along with Lou Duva and what I feintly remember was a very young Johnny Bumphus. I know Lou eventually had Johnny and I think he introduced him to the media but as you can imagine it was quite hectic in the place.
I did not go to the Duran-Palomino match-up. My father might have-he rarely missed a big event in the Garden,and the connections he had got him into the arena often without ticket.
On those nights he was better off travelling "light" so he can maneuver around. I was probably off with my friends somewhere anyway or working (Many of my jobs I had over the years were the midnite shifts). The next day he would tell me "I was at the such and such fight last nite". Followed up by one of two standard lines he had . Either "It was a good one" or "They stunk out the joint".
Now that I think about it, it could have been the Palomino match up that we saw "Hands of Steel" training for. When Duran finished his workouts-Bumphus became the focal point as to his amateur career and possibility of going to 80 Olympics-which we know never happened due to US Boycott.We couldnt get close enough to hear the media questions or knew what the fuss was about till my father saw Bert Sugar later on that week and he told him what was up.
kikibalt wrote:My yahoo email account was hacked last night, sometime after 9:00 PM. If anybody received any email from my account around that time, it was send without my knowledge, so please disregard the email....I apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused you.
I received an email from you late last nite saying that you were in a giving mood and that you were sending me and all your other friends a check for $150.
And suddenly now your saying that your email was hacked. Hmmmm....
kikibalt wrote:My yahoo email account was hacked last night, sometime after 9:00 PM. If anybody received any email from my account around that time, it was send without my knowledge, so please disregard the email....I apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused you.
I received an email from you late last nite saying that you were in a giving mood and that you were sending me and all your other friends a check for $150.
And suddenly now your saying that your email was hacked. Hmmmm....
kikibalt wrote:My yahoo email account was hacked last night, sometime after 9:00 PM. If anybody received any email from my account around that time, it was send without my knowledge, so please disregard the email....I apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused you.
I received an email from you late last nite saying that you were in a giving mood and that you were sending me and all your other friends a check for $150.
And suddenly now your saying that your email was hacked. Hmmmm....
I don't have $150.00 to send you. I have some food stamps though, you're welcome to them if you need them...
kikibalt wrote:My yahoo email account was hacked last night, sometime after 9:00 PM. If anybody received any email from my account around that time, it was send without my knowledge, so please disregard the email....I apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused you.
CNorkusJr wrote:Watching Duran train was great to see. The only thing that was that when he held open sessions, there was not much room to the side to watch him and he literally drew hundreds of people. Because of my father-we got inside (believe me there were literally dozens outside waiting a chance to get in). I got a good view of him in the ring which was naturally raised up,but when he skipped rope or worked the bags -I only got glimpses since we were behind other guys and photogs. Non-the-less for me and my father it was a great time.
My father was introduced as a ringside spectator along with Lou Duva and what I feintly remember was a very young Johnny Bumphus. I know Lou eventually had Johnny and I think he introduced him to the media but as you can imagine it was quite hectic in the place.
I did not go to the Duran-Palomino match-up. My father might have-he rarely missed a big event in the Garden,and the connections he had got him into the arena often without ticket.
On those nights he was better off travelling "light" so he can maneuver around. I was probably off with my friends somewhere anyway or working (Many of my jobs I had over the years were the midnite shifts). The next day he would tell me "I was at the such and such fight last nite". Followed up by one of two standard lines he had . Either "It was a good one" or "They stunk out the joint".
Now that I think about it, it could have been the Palomino match up that we saw "Hands of Steel" training for. When Duran finished his workouts-Bumphus became the focal point as to his amateur career and possibility of going to 80 Olympics-which we know never happened due to US Boycott.We couldnt get close enough to hear the media questions or knew what the fuss was about till my father saw Bert Sugar later on that week and he told him what was up.
Charlie, I think your dad would have liked Duran/Palomino, Duran was awesome that night, Palomino had a look on his face like, what have I gotten myself into here. Roberto must have won every round, Palomino a good fighter, Duran a great one.. Larry Holmes/Mike Weaver was the main event but I think the fans turned out to see the great Duran..
kikibalt wrote:My yahoo email account was hacked last night, sometime after 9:00 PM. If anybody received any email from my account around that time, it was send without my knowledge, so please disregard the email....I apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused you.
I received an email from you late last nite saying that you were in a giving mood and that you were sending me and all your other friends a check for $150.
And suddenly now your saying that your email was hacked. Hmmmm....
I don't have $150.00 to send you. I have some food stamps though, you're welcome to them if you need them...
No Thanks- Can you get the ingredients you need for Menudo con Pate with those stamps ? D
CNorkusJr wrote:
I received an email from you late last nite saying that you were in a giving mood and that you were sending me and all your other friends a check for $150.
And suddenly now your saying that your email was hacked. Hmmmm....
I don't have $150.00 to send you. I have some food stamps though, you're welcome to them if you need them...
No Thanks- Can you get the ingredients you need for Menudo con Pate with those stamps ? D
Hell yes, and I know a store that will let me buy booze with them too...
CNorkusJr wrote:Watching Duran train was great to see. The only thing that was that when he held open sessions, there was not much room to the side to watch him and he literally drew hundreds of people. Because of my father-we got inside (believe me there were literally dozens outside waiting a chance to get in). I got a good view of him in the ring which was naturally raised up,but when he skipped rope or worked the bags -I only got glimpses since we were behind other guys and photogs. Non-the-less for me and my father it was a great time.
My father was introduced as a ringside spectator along with Lou Duva and what I feintly remember was a very young Johnny Bumphus. I know Lou eventually had Johnny and I think he introduced him to the media but as you can imagine it was quite hectic in the place.
I did not go to the Duran-Palomino match-up. My father might have-he rarely missed a big event in the Garden,and the connections he had got him into the arena often without ticket.
On those nights he was better off travelling "light" so he can maneuver around. I was probably off with my friends somewhere anyway or working (Many of my jobs I had over the years were the midnite shifts). The next day he would tell me "I was at the such and such fight last nite". Followed up by one of two standard lines he had . Either "It was a good one" or "They stunk out the joint".
Now that I think about it, it could have been the Palomino match up that we saw "Hands of Steel" training for. When Duran finished his workouts-Bumphus became the focal point as to his amateur career and possibility of going to 80 Olympics-which we know never happened due to US Boycott.We couldnt get close enough to hear the media questions or knew what the fuss was about till my father saw Bert Sugar later on that week and he told him what was up.
Charlie, I think your dad would have liked Duran/Palomino, Duran was awesome that night, Palomino had a look on his face like, what have I gotten myself into here. Roberto must have won every round, Palomino a good fighter, Duran a great one.. Larry Holmes/Mike Weaver was the main event but I think the fans turned out to see the great Duran..
Holmes vs Weaver with a Duran Vs Palomino undercard. The Garden was exciting back then.
Since then I saw a V Klitschko vs. Sultana Ibragmov with John Duddy undercard.Snooze fest.
And in 2001, actor Michael Douglas gave up his two front row tickets to the Hopkins vs Trinidad middleweight unification bout.His secretary said he had a last minute change in plans. By sheer luck,he chose my firehouse not knowing who the lucky fireman was who got them. I was one of the recepients on the other end of one of tickets- myself and fellow FF Al Quinones were getting off duty at 6pm and ran down to the Garden 14 blocks away.
Front row behind 3 rows of press people. I had Don King's hair to contend with that night in front of me,but the ring was high enough. Next to me was Spike Lee with NFLer Jim Brown whose biopic he was working on,and other side was Al was Michael J Fox. Behind us was a bevy of who's who.Now that was a great fight and fight card. Next day, I was back at work at 9am-and Bernard Hopkins shows up to say hello and pay respects. I'll post picture of him with us in firehouse later on, day after he won Middleweight titles.
Recently I had the opportunity to meet former 50's-60's Heavy Contender Alex Miteff. Alex originally hailed from Argentina like Cesar Brion. Both trained in stillman's Gym with my father. Alex talks slow now and primarily in his native tongue which sounded like Spanish or Portugese. His son related to me that Carlos Palomino was his favorite fighter to watch. A huge Palomino fan.
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CNorkusJr wrote:Watching Duran train was great to see. The only thing that was that when he held open sessions, there was not much room to the side to watch him and he literally drew hundreds of people. Because of my father-we got inside (believe me there were literally dozens outside waiting a chance to get in). I got a good view of him in the ring which was naturally raised up,but when he skipped rope or worked the bags -I only got glimpses since we were behind other guys and photogs. Non-the-less for me and my father it was a great time.
My father was introduced as a ringside spectator along with Lou Duva and what I feintly remember was a very young Johnny Bumphus. I know Lou eventually had Johnny and I think he introduced him to the media but as you can imagine it was quite hectic in the place.
I did not go to the Duran-Palomino match-up. My father might have-he rarely missed a big event in the Garden,and the connections he had got him into the arena often without ticket.
On those nights he was better off travelling "light" so he can maneuver around. I was probably off with my friends somewhere anyway or working (Many of my jobs I had over the years were the midnite shifts). The next day he would tell me "I was at the such and such fight last nite". Followed up by one of two standard lines he had . Either "It was a good one" or "They stunk out the joint".
Now that I think about it, it could have been the Palomino match up that we saw "Hands of Steel" training for. When Duran finished his workouts-Bumphus became the focal point as to his amateur career and possibility of going to 80 Olympics-which we know never happened due to US Boycott.We couldnt get close enough to hear the media questions or knew what the fuss was about till my father saw Bert Sugar later on that week and he told him what was up.
Charlie, I think your dad would have liked Duran/Palomino, Duran was awesome that night, Palomino had a look on his face like, what have I gotten myself into here. Roberto must have won every round, Palomino a good fighter, Duran a great one.. Larry Holmes/Mike Weaver was the main event but I think the fans turned out to see the great Duran..
Holmes vs Weaver with a Duran Vs Palomino undercard. The Garden was exciting back then.
Since then I saw a V Klitschko vs. Sultana Ibragmov with John Duddy undercard.Snooze fest.
And in 2001, actor Michael Douglas gave up his two front row tickets to the Hopkins vs Trinidad middleweight unification bout.His secretary said he had a last minute change in plans. By sheer luck,he chose my firehouse not knowing who the lucky fireman was who got them. I was one of the recepients on the other end of one of tickets- myself and fellow FF Al Quinones were getting off duty at 6pm and ran down to the Garden 14 blocks away.
Front row behind 3 rows of press people. I had Don King's hair to contend with that night in front of me,but the ring was high enough. Next to me was Spike Lee with NFLer Jim Brown whose biopic he was working on,and other side was Al was Michael J Fox. Behind us was a bevy of who's who.Now that was a great fight and fight card. Next day, I was back at work at 9am-and Bernard Hopkins shows up to say hello and pay respects. I'll post picture of him with us in firehouse later on, day after he won Middleweight titles.
In today's edition of the Ventura County Star, there is a fine article by Jannette Jauregui about Robert Herron, a step-son of Ace Hudkins who served in the U.S. Navy in World War II and went on to become a stuntman and a double for a number of stars in the movies. Jauregui writes articles about war veterans on a regular basis for the Star. As a result, a good portion of the article about Herron is devoted to his experiences in the U.S. Navy during World War II.
But the article also has some interesting information about Hudkins, who once trained race horses and opened a stable with his brothers. Later on, Hudkins and his brothers operated the Hudkins Ranch on 1,000 acres that they leased on what is now the Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale.
At the ranch, Hudkins trained horses for film productions in addition to providing props for western shoots. He originally owned Roy Rogers' horse, Trigger, and the Lone Ranger's horse, Silver, both of which were named by Hudkins. The ranch also had close ties with Randolph Scott and John Wayne.
After Herron came back from the war, Hudkins got him a job as a prop man at Warner Brothers. About a year later, he realized that he would make more money in front of the camera instead of behind it. As a result, Herron took acting classes before "getting his foot in the door as a stuntman," which led to nearly 250 roles in television and film. At 87, he has yet to retire.
In August 1961, Herron got married at 36 years old. He and his wife Lynne had three children.
His current residence is in Thousand Oaks, California.
Chuck1052 wrote:In today's edition of the Ventura County Star, there is a fine article by Jannette Jauregui about Robert Herron, a step-son of Ace Hudkins who served in the U.S. Navy in World War II and went on to become a stuntman and a double for a number of stars in the movies. Jauregui writes articles about war veterans on a regular basis for the Star. As a result, a good portion of the article about Herron is devoted to his experiences in the U.S. Navy during World War II.
But the article also has some interesting information about Hudkins, who once trained race horses and opened a stable with his brothers. Later on, Hudkins and his brothers operated the Hudkins Ranch on 1,000 acres that they leased on what is now the Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale.
At the ranch, Hudkins trained horses for film productions in addition to providing props for western shoots. He originally owned Roy Rogers' horse, Trigger, and the Lone Ranger's horse, Silver, both of which were named by Hudkins. The ranch also had close ties with Randolph Scott and John Wayne.
After Herron came back from the war, Hudkins got him a job as a prop man at Warner Brothers. About a year later, he realized that he would make more money in front of the camera instead of behind it. As a result, Herron took acting classes before "getting his foot in the door as a stuntman," which led to nearly 250 roles in television and film. At 87, he has yet to retire.
In August 1961, Herron got married at 36 years old. He and his wife Lynne had three children.
His current residence is in Thousand Oaks, California.
Freddie Roach says he has warned Amir Khan about Lamont Peterson – Boxing news
By Angel Batista
Freddie Roach says he has warned Amir Khan about Lamont Peterson
Amir Khan’s trainer Freddie Roach, who is one of the most well-known boxing trainers in the world, is worried about Khan’s upcoming fight with Lamont Peterson, as Roach believes Peterson is a very dangerous fighter to deal with.
The Bolton’s finest, Khan, who is more commonly known as King Khan, is set to take on Lamont Peterson on December 10, 2011 at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center in Washington D.C. Roach reckons it will be a very tough night for his fighter.
The 51-year-old Master Roach told the media Peterson is a very skilled fighter and he has warned Khan about the consequences ahead.
While speaking on his inclusion, Roach said, “He has a good style and is very physical so we have a tough fight ahead of us. This guy [Peterson] can punch. He’s very strong, her’s very physical. He’s a good fighter. This guy is dangerous. He’s very dangerous….I’ve warned Amir.”
The 24-year-old Khan, who has won 26 of his 27 professional fights, with 18 of his wins coming by the way of a knockout, has plans to move up to the 147-pound division after Peterson in search of some big fights.
His keen interest is in setting up a super-fight with the undefeated American legend, Floyd Mayweather, who is a five-division world champion and the current World Boxing Council World Welterweight Champion.
Roach also commented on a possible Khan-Mayweather bout. He confirmed after Peterson they will be on a look out for Mayweather. Roach also trains the eight-division world champion Manny Pacquiao and knows almost everyone wants to see Pacquiao taking on Mayweather but he said he is not worried even if Khan takes on Mayweather. He insisted he is confident that both of his fighters can beat Mayweather in the ring.
“But after Peterson, we will go after Mayweather. I love that fight, I was hoping Manny would get there first but I know both my fighters can beat him so I have no worries,” Roach added.
Will Amir Khan fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2012?
By Kieran Mulvaney
It's possible. Khan has made it clear he wants the fight. And absent the prospect of a bout at 140 pounds against Timothy Bradley Jr. or Erik Morales, Khan intends to move up to the welterweight division, where Mayweather resides, should he defeat Lamont Peterson on Dec. 10.
The prospect of the bout gained greater attention this week when, following the London press conference to announce the Peterson fight, Khan told Britain's Sky News that Mayweather "had agreed" to fight him. Two days later, talking to ESPN.com in Washington, D.C., Khan sought to clarify those remarks and dampen the speculation they prompted.
"I think it's a bit too soon for a Mayweather fight yet," he said. "This time next year, probably, I'm looking at -- or possibly in the summertime. It would be massive in England, but would Floyd Mayweather travel to England?"
While Mayweather certainly has not dismissed the notion of a fight with the Englishman -- prior to his knockout defeat of Victor Ortiz, he suggested he would take him on if Khan defeated Mayweather protégé Jessie Vargas first -- Khan emphasized on Thursday that such a bout "is for the future. It's good to have goals and ambitions."
Besides, Mayweather, having just dispensed with Ortiz, probably "doesn't want to talk about boxing" right now, Khan observed. And meanwhile, Khan has another fight to focus on. He concedes it would be "stupid" of him to look past Peterson toward a possible Mayweather clash.
"There's no Floyd Mayweather fight if I don't get past this guy," he said. "If I get beat, then that's over. I've only started to build my career up in America. I want it to last for a long, long time and I can't afford to lose. I don't want to start at the bottom again."
Tim Bradley is closer to Manny Pacquiao with move to Top Rank
The 28-year-old boxer signed with Bob Arum's promotions company and could be in line eventually to face Pacquiao. Bradley is on the undercard for Pacquiao's Nov. 12 bout in Las Vegas.
By Bill Dwyre
October 10, 2011.
Think of boxing's quest for fame and fortune as a game of musical chairs. Recently, the song stopped and Tim Bradley quickly sat down.
The 28-year-old fire hydrant, a 140-pounder from Palm Springs with lightning-quick hands and feet, signed with Top Rank Promotions. That's Bob Arum's company, and 46 years after he quit being a Harvard lawyer and found Muhammad Ali, Arum's is still the logo you want on your boxing gloves.
Bradley had been with Gary Shaw's promotions, but when his contract ran out this summer, Bradley ran out too. Right to Arum.
And once that happened, the never-ending game of Who's Got Next increased in intrigue.
Boxing these days is like a Depression food line. Everybody queues up, waiting for Manny Pacquiao to hand out the bread. A fight with Pacquiao is an instant retirement plan, usually both financially and physically. Get in the ring with him, last as many rounds as you can without being totally embarrassed, then climb into the Brink's truck and ride away while they stitch up your eyes, nose and mouth and ask whether you remember your wife's name.
To a man, any fighter weighing anything close to Pacquiao's favored 147 pounds, and having shown indications that he can limit his bleeding to less than a pint and return punches long enough to justify $3,000 ringside seats, wants into the lineup. They all say the same thing. They want to fight the best, which Pacquiao is. But what they really mean is: "Show Me the Money."
Arum is nothing if not clever, even devious.
He says he has not promised Bradley a Pacquiao fight, nor even mentioned his name to Pacquiao. That's probably true.
But he quickly made Bradley the semi-main event for Pacquiao's Nov. 12 fight at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas against Juan Manuel Marquez, who has proved, indeed, in his two previous fights with Pacquiao that he can last awhile and bleed a lot. On the undercard, Bradley will fight Joel Casamayor, the Cuban who defected to the United States just before the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta and has had a nice capitalistic career ever since. His record is 38-5-1, and he has fought only three times since his biggest payday, a knockout at the hands of Marquez on Sept. 13, 2008.
The two pertinent things about Casamayor, relative to this fight, are that he is 40 and left-handed. Pacquiao is left-handed. Fill in the blanks.
Bradley gives Arum another option, as he masterfully delivers a couple of $20-million paydays each year to Pacquiao, who then fits them in between his duties as a congressman in the Philippines. For Pacquiao, the boxing world wants Floyd Mayweather Jr. Sadly, so do several judges in Las Vegas, where Floyd is accused of sucker-punching more than just Victor Ortiz.
"Floyd may have the biggest fight of his life ahead," says Arum, referring to several assault charges Mayweather faces. He says it with the look of a concerned parent. The proper reaction is to suppress a giggle.
If Pacquiao fights Mayweather, it will come to pass because there is so much money at stake that it can't be rejected. But if Arum goes to his grave never having put on the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, he will certainly rest in peace. He once promoted Mayweather, through much of his early success. But that didn't end well and now Arum speaks in amazement at what has become of his former client.
"First of all, he is a terrific fighter," Arum says. "At one point, he appeared to be a good guy. But then, his people [handlers after he left Arum] got this idea to make him into a villain. They thought they could attract an audience that comes to see him get beat. Let me tell you. It's tough to promote a villain."
Bradley is the countervillain. He is well-spoken, friendly, accommodating and unbeaten in 27 fights.
Arum says, "Our goal is to make Tim Bradley one of the major stars in boxing. We know he is one of the best fighters, but that doesn't make him a star."
Todd DuBoeff, Arum's stepson and the president of Top Rank, says of Bradley, "He has marketability and ability." In a recent media gathering, Bradley spoke for about 10 minutes and DuBoeff said later that he "lights up the room." Which he did.
So, with Bradley, the line to Pacquiao just got longer.
Mayweather is the obvious first choice, but Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito might like another shot, despite the beatings they took by Pacquiao. Circumstances could give the shot to Amir Khan, Andre Berto or Marcos Maidana. Erik Morales could find his way back to Pacquiao, though the public probably wouldn't buy that. Saul Alvarez is Golden Boy's hot fighter right now, but he'd have to lose lots of weight, as would impressive middleweight Sergio Martinez, who says he could and would get down to 154 or lower, to fight Pacquiao.
The permutations are endless. The line snakes around the block. Arum loves it.
CNorkusJr wrote:Watching Duran train was great to see. The only thing that was that when he held open sessions, there was not much room to the side to watch him and he literally drew hundreds of people. Because of my father-we got inside (believe me there were literally dozens outside waiting a chance to get in). I got a good view of him in the ring which was naturally raised up,but when he skipped rope or worked the bags -I only got glimpses since we were behind other guys and photogs. Non-the-less for me and my father it was a great time.
My father was introduced as a ringside spectator along with Lou Duva and what I feintly remember was a very young Johnny Bumphus. I know Lou eventually had Johnny and I think he introduced him to the media but as you can imagine it was quite hectic in the place.
I did not go to the Duran-Palomino match-up. My father might have-he rarely missed a big event in the Garden,and the connections he had got him into the arena often without ticket.
On those nights he was better off travelling "light" so he can maneuver around. I was probably off with my friends somewhere anyway or working (Many of my jobs I had over the years were the midnite shifts). The next day he would tell me "I was at the such and such fight last nite". Followed up by one of two standard lines he had . Either "It was a good one" or "They stunk out the joint".
Now that I think about it, it could have been the Palomino match up that we saw "Hands of Steel" training for. When Duran finished his workouts-Bumphus became the focal point as to his amateur career and possibility of going to 80 Olympics-which we know never happened due to US Boycott.We couldnt get close enough to hear the media questions or knew what the fuss was about till my father saw Bert Sugar later on that week and he told him what was up.
Charlie, I think your dad would have liked Duran/Palomino, Duran was awesome that night, Palomino had a look on his face like, what have I gotten myself into here. Roberto must have won every round, Palomino a good fighter, Duran a great one.. Larry Holmes/Mike Weaver was the main event but I think the fans turned out to see the great Duran..
Holmes vs Weaver with a Duran Vs Palomino undercard. The Garden was exciting back then.
Since then I saw a V Klitschko vs. Sultana Ibragmov with John Duddy undercard.Snooze fest.
And in 2001, actor Michael Douglas gave up his two front row tickets to the Hopkins vs Trinidad middleweight unification bout.His secretary said he had a last minute change in plans. By sheer luck,he chose my firehouse not knowing who the lucky fireman was who got them. I was one of the recepients on the other end of one of tickets- myself and fellow FF Al Quinones were getting off duty at 6pm and ran down to the Garden 14 blocks away.
Front row behind 3 rows of press people. I had Don King's hair to contend with that night in front of me,but the ring was high enough. Next to me was Spike Lee with NFLer Jim Brown whose biopic he was working on,and other side was Al was Michael J Fox. Behind us was a bevy of who's who.Now that was a great fight and fight card. Next day, I was back at work at 9am-and Bernard Hopkins shows up to say hello and pay respects. I'll post picture of him with us in firehouse later on, day after he won Middleweight titles.
Recently I had the opportunity to meet former 50's-60's Heavy Contender Alex Miteff. Alex originally hailed from Argentina like Cesar Brion. Both trained in stillman's Gym with my father. Alex talks slow now and primarily in his native tongue which sounded like Spanish or Portugese. His son related to me that Carlos Palomino was his favorite fighter to watch. A huge Palomino fan.
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