Bernard Hopkins : Will this injury end his career ??

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Bernard Hopkins : Will this injury end his career ??

Post by Quixall »

In light of what happenned last night in the fight with Dawson, will Hopkins confirmed shoulder injury end his career ?

I hope it doesn't, but it will take some time to heal and i'm not sure at this pont whether Hopkins will need surgery. Buncey was saying last night that Hopkins could go on until he is 50 years old and reckoned he had at least another 5 fights in him, which i don't go along with, but i'm hoping that Hopkins can come back and have a re-match with Dawson at the very least. Very strange decision last night, because apparently a contest can only be scored as a technical knock out if a legal blow was thrown and clearly Dawson lifted Hopkins up and threw him to the canvas, which is a clear foul. The contest should have been ruled a no contest. I said in another thread that so many times in fights we are getting refereeing decisions that are out of the ball park and it seems that the avergae fight fan has way more judgement on these things than the actual people officiating the fight.

I hope that Hopkins recovers quickly and a re-match can be made, because surely Dawson can't be happy with how he just mugged the title off Hopkins.
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Was it not ruled a NC? I only caught a bit of it on Yt. Is it he same shoulder he bust against echols? Could be curtains for bernard unfortunately.
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It was ruled a TKO, which is what is so confusing about this who debacle.

But it should be overturned to a NC in light of the injury and Foul
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Knowing Hopkins no he's a stubborn fecker. He didn't look in tip top shape last night though..a bit of a paunch compared to Dawson.. Maybe time is finally taking it's toll on him
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Final round wrote:Knowing Hopkins no he's a stubborn fecker. He didn't look in tip top shape last night though..a bit of a paunch compared to Dawson.. Maybe time is finally taking it's toll on him
I Agree He Didn,t Look 100% And After 1Round He Knew It Wasn,t Going To Be His Nite. Loooked Flat Benard And Lacklust.
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The most rediculous call I have seen...... I mean "accidental" head clashes resulting in a fighter being unable to continue results in a NC.... how wasn't this?

It was a blantant foul (although maybe not a DQable offence) and Dawson post fight press conference didn't do him any favours.

Agree though, Hopkins didn't look himself - maybe time to call it a day on a "high" (as oppose to a proper loss) or look for different pastures (e.g. Cruiserweight).
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Hopkins will be back at least one more time yet. If he gets blown out in his next fight, it's a sure time for B-HOP to reconsider retirement.
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It should not end anything. I think he faked it.
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YOGI BEAR wrote:
Final round wrote:Knowing Hopkins no he's a stubborn fecker. He didn't look in tip top shape last night though..a bit of a paunch compared to Dawson.. Maybe time is finally taking it's toll on him
I Agree He Didn,t Look 100% And After 1Round He Knew It Wasn,t Going To Be His Nite. Loooked Flat Benard And Lacklust.
Are you serious? Have you ever watched Hopkins especially in the last few years? He starts slow and figures his opponents out after a few rounds and expolits there weaknesses, he won the first round. How did "He know it wasn't going to be his night" because he didn't throw much in the second round? What a joke of a post.
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PROPHETI wrote:It should not end anything. I think he faked it.
Did you see his shoulder? it was clearly dislocated, stop watching boxing and get off this forum.
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BoxingAnalyst wrote:
PROPHETI wrote:It should not end anything. I think he faked it.
Did you see his shoulder? it was clearly dislocated, stop watching boxing and get off this forum.
Hopkins went to hospital straight after the fight and got it diagnosed, so he was hardly faking it.........

Why on earth would he fake it in the 2nd round ?
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Quixall wrote:
BoxingAnalyst wrote:
PROPHETI wrote:It should not end anything. I think he faked it.
Did you see his shoulder? it was clearly dislocated, stop watching boxing and get off this forum.
Hopkins went to hospital straight after the fight and got it diagnosed, so he was hardly faking it.........

Why on earth would he fake it in the 2nd round ?
Exactly. This "PROPHETI" hasn't got a clue, he's probly Chad Dawsons only supporter worldwide.
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I don't think he faked it

but nonetheless his too old, 5 years ago he would have just had a sore shoulder not dislocation

The Pascal win should have been his farewell fight

he won't always be able to spoil fights just to get his old legs through.

Needs to retire, should have before the Dawson fight

As for Dawson, i'd say Pascal, Cloud and Cleverly all have a chance of beating him, none of them stand out as being the best.

Hopkins 5 years ago would have wiped the floor with all of these but now he just too old!
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Boxing Addict wrote:I don't think he faked it

but nonetheless his too old, 5 years ago he would have just had a sore shoulder not dislocation

The Pascal win should have been his farewell fight

he won't always be able to spoil fights just to get his old legs through.

Needs to retire, should have before the Dawson fight

As for Dawson, i'd say Pascal, Cloud and Cleverly all have a chance of beating him, none of them stand out as being the best.

Hopkins 5 years ago would have wiped the floor with all of these but now he just too old!
Hopkins at 46 is still superior to all the 3 names you mentioned IMO.
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I ent no huge Hopkins but no way should a world champion lose his title by being thrown on the ground ...and what type of fighter would wanna win one that way ?
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mrpedigree wrote:I ent no huge Hopkins but no way should a world champion lose his title by being thrown on the ground ...and what type of fighter would wanna win one that way ?
x1
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Quixall wrote:
BoxingAnalyst wrote:
PROPHETI wrote:It should not end anything. I think he faked it.
Did you see his shoulder? it was clearly dislocated, stop watching boxing and get off this forum.
Hopkins went to hospital straight after the fight and got it diagnosed, so he was hardly faking it.........

Why on earth would he fake it in the 2nd round ?
I think he wanted to milk it....but it backfired!

Boxing Analyst has no knowledge of boxing or life.
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BoxingAnalyst wrote:
Quixall wrote:
BoxingAnalyst wrote: Did you see his shoulder? it was clearly dislocated, stop watching boxing and get off this forum.
Hopkins went to hospital straight after the fight and got it diagnosed, so he was hardly faking it.........

Why on earth would he fake it in the 2nd round ?
Exactly. This "PROPHETI" hasn't got a clue, he's probly Chad Dawsons only supporter worldwide.

This is a forum! Opinions, You will do well to remmber that Mr Boxing Anal Yst.

:yay:
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Jon Saxon wrote:
mrpedigree wrote:I ent no huge Hopkins but no way should a world champion lose his title by being thrown on the ground ...and what type of fighter would wanna win one that way ?
x1
dont you mean x2 :-?
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BoxingAnalyst wrote:
YOGI BEAR wrote:
Final round wrote:Knowing Hopkins no he's a stubborn fecker. He didn't look in tip top shape last night though..a bit of a paunch compared to Dawson.. Maybe time is finally taking it's toll on him
I Agree He Didn,t Look 100% And After 1Round He Knew It Wasn,t Going To Be His Nite. Loooked Flat Benard And Lacklust.
Are you serious? Have you ever watched Hopkins especially in the last few years? He starts slow and figures his opponents out after a few rounds and expolits there weaknesses, he won the first round. How did "He know it wasn't going to be his night" because he didn't throw much in the second round? What a joke of a post.
Totally agree with BoxingAnalyst

The first 2 rounds showed us that Hopkins was already dictating the pace of the fight and making Dawson box to his gameplan like he did to Pascal in their 2nd fight as well. He would have slowly broken down Chad and then drowned him during the second half of the fight.

The TKO decision is totally baffling and almost certain to be changed to a NC in a week if sane minds take over especially after the Doctor has confirmed the seriousness of the injury and proved it was legit and made it next to impossible for Hopkins to continue in the fight.
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hope not i wanna see him beat bad chads ass and than retire if he wants to
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PROPHETI wrote:
BoxingAnalyst wrote:
Quixall wrote: Hopkins went to hospital straight after the fight and got it diagnosed, so he was hardly faking it.........

Why on earth would he fake it in the 2nd round ?
Exactly. This "PROPHETI" hasn't got a clue, he's probly Chad Dawsons only supporter worldwide.

This is a forum! Opinions, You will do well to remmber that Mr Boxing Anal Yst.

:yay:
My opinion is that Hopkins deserved to be thrown to the floor. He tried to jump onto Dawson's back for feck sake! Both his feet were off the floor not because Chad lifted him but because he followed through with his right and launched himself forward towards Dawson to instigate a clinch. I've seen Hopkins use this move in many of his fights and he had also done it in the 1st round against Chad. However because Dawson bent low this time Hopkins ended up on Dawson's back. What you you guys want Dawson do to? Let him down gently? Take him for a piggyback around the ring? Or shove him off?

Now I don't think he should have lost his title and the contest should have been declared a no contest but I would not say it was a deliberate foul on the part of Dawson. Hopkins created the situation that ended with his injury.
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To lose your title that way is an absolute disgrace and the people involved should be ashamed of themselves. Both fighters have to at least be partly accountable because Hopkins leant on him and then Dawson pushed him off. The fight should have been a no contest.

Dawson's actions after the fight only served to show what a tool he really is.
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