Genuine power - Where is the line?

[forcefraser]

Most people agree that a boxer with real genuine power is an attraction in the sport. However, who in the game today has real knockout power?

Bellew was perceived as having power, but he hit Cleverely clean a good few times and Cleverely took the punches well. Is it Cleverly`s chin that negates the power or the power itself that does not carry up the levels?

Carl Froch was seen as a power puncher, but his power does not seem to have carried up the levels.

Which boxers have carried their knoclout power all the way to the top and knocked guys out regardless of their opponents chin?

For me Tommy Hearns is an example of a guy who had terrific power at all levels.

Who is there around today who could be classed as having devastating power? The most recent I can think of was the late Valero. He had freakish strength in his punches.

[NazNaci1]

Lots of guys hit hard but that is not the same as having knockout power, obviously. Guys like Kirkland are built up as monstrous hitters, when, in reality, the record is padded, for the non boxing fans and TV Execs.

Genuine KO Artists, don't usually get a look in, as they have suffered a few defeats and tend to get chucked in over their heads early ie Epifanio Mendoza or Julian Letterlough (RIP).

[SAPFO]

Didn't Bombers reputation as a banger come form his Am days at a much heavier weight?

[whiskey]

Most columbian's have cracking power.

Ricardo Torres had something like 28 wins , 27ko, Breidis Prescott, Alenjdro Berrio,

None have skill though, except perhaps Diego Corrales, but he was raised in USA.

[JC]

Most columbian's have cracking power.

Ricardo Torres had something like 28 wins , 27ko, Breidis Prescott, Alenjdro Berrio,

None have skill though, except perhaps Diego Corrales, but he was raised in USA.

I've noticed that with Columbian fighters too, same with Nigeria to an extent.

[kamicazze]

So which british fighter has the power to carry? Haye had it. Big Enzo had it. I'd imagine that Kell Brook will carry it

[Datsue]

Nonito Donaire. That left hook frightens me. Fernando Montiel had been decked a couple of times, but never stopped & was a multi-weight, multi-belt unified champion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvaU7C12eAM

Which is a lot like the shot he KO'd Vic Darchinyan with years ago. The bloke's a wrecking machine.

Manny P., obviously. He knocked out Ricky Hatton with one punch. One punch! He threw a little off-balance slashing uppercut & knocked Miguel Cotto clean off his feet. The man's a phenomenal puncher.

Wladdy when he feels like sitting down on the right hand.

Juan Manuel Lopez isn't a powderpuff puncher when he can set himself up right, & Yuriorkis Gamboa can take guys clean out.

All of the above have fight-ending power, in my opinion.

Haye had it at cruiser, but was more of a hurtful than a destructive guy at heavy.

I would contend that Brook will not go down in history as a concussive puncher, celebrated for his great string of one-punch triumphs at genuine elite level.

[Karl Jade]

Big Enzo.

[matko]

Tony has defo got power witnessed it throughout the amateurs when i seen him box, Cleverley obviously has a good chin, is fit and conditioned to aswell, he used to spar enzo and joe so he must be tough

Valero RIP had power also david haye had freak power, another serious puncher at domestic level who had power was Mark Thompson he hit like a donkey kick and also think kenny anderson can whack

[Deserter]

Gamboa can be a wrecking ball when he's on form.

[Newport Daz]

Julian Jackson had insane one punch ability, but also the fragile chin that often goes with it. Poor old Herrol Graham can tell you first hand about it!

[boxerrob2005]

From UK i would say Wayne Alexander was probably the hardest single puncher this country has had. But like all punchers no chin!

[SteveDow]

Most fighters with genuine one punch ko power are fairly one dimensional sluggers. This, in most cases, stems from over reliance on looking for the big shot instead of developing and utilising boxing skills to win a fight.

[stevek3lly]

Its not just power that makes a knock out artist, you have to add the speed, timing and shot selection which makes a real KO man.

The thread is using Clev/Bomber as an example. Bomber is obviously a big hitter, but Clev has never looked at any stage in his carear that he cannot take a clean shot and he has been in with some good guys. 1 fight doesn't make you a banger or not, its overall and at various levels as well.

[LeedsLad]

I think Rafael Marquez is a banger, his right hand is tasty. In fact his jab is probably more powerful than most right hands in his weight class.

The poor technique we see in the amateurs has led to a reduction in the number of genuine punchers, it's no co-incidence that the likes of Mexico, Colombia and Argentina are producing fair amounts of bangers, compared to say Britain and the rest of Europe, where they have lengthly amateur careers largely slapping or shoe shining.

When people think that the likes of Brook are big punchers you know it's a poor state of affairs. Kell isn't anything more than a decent accumulative puncher, relying more on accuracy than genuine power, whereas Froch is probably heavier handed but has tended to face a lot of durable opposition that would go the distance with anybody.

[Tommy Gunn13]

Why do Bomber keep getting mentioned in topics like this,he isnt a Julian Jackson!!! yes he might have knocked a few out in the Amatuers,in the ABAs he might have boxed maybe 2 out of 6/7 oppenents who train well&live well..hes not a knockout artist as made out to be...

[matko]

I also think if fighters are strong at the weight i think many fighters overtrain to make weight or last few pounds take a toll and they lose their strength and snap in many cases

[dewipowell]

Gamboa could knock a house over.

[funso banjo baby]

i can only go on Heavies but David Price may well carry his punch to a higher level... Helenius can also progress.

as for Boytsov, his ko's dried up when the tough journeymen gatekeepers stood up.

and, howard Daley swears that novice scot Gary Cornish is a bit of a monster

[maltesecharlie]

David Price could be a massive puncher.

[dookus]

Big Enzo.

I dunno, the guy did one-punch KO Marcel Dominguez, a former WBC titlist, never otherwise dropped or stopped and a man who gave Valuev fits over 8 rounds...El Gordo had a hell of a chin!

[danboxer1]

NAZ you don't see many ko's like his these days

[Jeff Thomas]

NAZ you don't see many ko's like his these days

of the people I've seen


1) Joe Louis
2) Julian Jackson
3) Naseem hamed
4) mike Tyson
5) felix trinidad

Domestic

1) Wayne Alexander
2) ensley Bingham
3) Mark reefer
4) pat Barrett
5) David haye

These guys stand out

[Cas]

Maidana can bang a bit. Watched some of his highlight videos and he has power to knock people out. And Maidana did have Khan on queer street after one punch (in before khan is glass).

Guys like Brook are massively overrated in terms of punching power. Brook is not a big puncher.

[Coco]

Many fighters have genuine power, it's just landing which is the hard thing!