Top 10 Pound for Pound Junior Rankings (14,15,16)

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Top 10 Pound for Pound Junior Rankings (14,15,16)

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Please give us your opinion. Top 10 (if you can) Pound for Pound Juniors. (14,15,16)
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1. Gary Salazar 119
2. Gervonta Davis 125
3. Kareem Martin 145
4. Erickson Lubin 132
5. Julian Rodriguez 138
6. Anthony Simms 165
7. Jesus Luna 106
8. Jaricio O'Quinn 114
9. Hector Valdez 114
10. Gary Russell 114
11. John Luna 165
12. Javier Martinez 145
13. Junior Younan 176+
14. Chase Calloway 145
15. Jose Alday 138

Other boxers that could easily be above ^
- Hugo Garcia Jr 138
- Lamont Roach Jr 132
- Arnold Alejandro Jr 110/114
- Moses Taylor 154
- Flavio Beccera 154

I did my top 15 because it was hard to not include some other worthy boxers.
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"Juniors" are actually 15-16 year olds. 14 year olds are Intemediate and the only time they box in the "Senior JO" division is at Silver Gloves, where 16 year olds don't compete. You should stick to 15-16 in your top P4P. :D
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Re: Top 10 Pound for Pound Junior Rankings (14,15,16)

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It's hard to rank the juniors (15-16) pound for pound because there is so much talent at these ages, but I will give you my opinion on the top 3 boxers in each weight class.

100- Pablo Ramirez, Texas
Fernando Vasquez, Texas
Kelvin Davis, Virginia
106- Jesus Luna, California
Aujee Tyler, Maryland
Ronnell Jackson, Maryland
110- Arnold Alejandro Jr., Texas
James Taylor, Michigan
Jermaine Ortiz, Massachussetts
114- Hector Valdez, Texas
Jarico O'Quinn, Michigan
Gary Russell, Maryland
119- Gary Salazar, California
Jeusce Gonzalez, California
Nelsan Machado, Florida
125- Gervonta Davis, Maryland
Jonathan Padilla, Texas
Abel Mendoza, Texas
132- Erickson Lubin, Florida
Austin Dulay, Tennessee
Lamont Roach Jr., Maryland
138- Julian Rodriguez, California
Jose Alday, Texas
Hugo Garcia Jr., Pennsylvania
145- Kareem Martin, Maryland
Javier Martinez, Wisconsin
Chase Calloway, Missouri
154- Flavio Beccera, Minnesota
Moses Taylor, Michigan
Fabien Alvarado, Texas
165- Anthony Simms Jr., Michigan
John Luna, Wisconsin
Alex Rincon, Texas
176/176+- Demek Edmonds, Massachussetts
Junior Younan, New York
Chris Johnson, Alabama
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Thanks for your rankings and input everyone. I believe there's going to be lots of future champions out of this group!!!! :box:
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BOXINGKATTT wrote:It's hard to rank the juniors (15-16) pound for pound because there is so much talent at these ages, but I will give you my opinion on the top 3 boxers in each weight class.

100- Pablo Ramirez, Texas
Fernando Vasquez, Texas
Kelvin Davis, Virginia
106- Jesus Luna, California
Aujee Tyler, Maryland
Ronnell Jackson, Maryland
110- Arnold Alejandro Jr., Texas
James Taylor, Michigan
Jermaine Ortiz, Massachussetts
114- Hector Valdez, Texas
Jarico O'Quinn, Michigan
Gary Russell, Maryland
119- Gary Salazar, California
Jeusce Gonzalez, California
Nelsan Machado, Florida
125- Gervonta Davis, Maryland
Jonathan Padilla, Texas
Abel Mendoza, Texas
132- Erickson Lubin, Florida
Austin Dulay, Tennessee
Lamont Roach Jr., Maryland
138- Julian Rodriguez, New Jersey
Jose Alday, Texas
Hugo Garcia Jr., Pennsylvania
145- Kareem Martin, Maryland
Javier Martinez, Wisconsin
Chase Calloway, Missouri
154- Flavio Beccera, Minnesota
Moses Taylor, Michigan
Fabien Alvarado, Texas
165- Anthony Simms Jr., Michigan
John Luna, Wisconsin
Alex Rincon, Texas
176/176+- Demek Edmonds, Massachussetts
Junior Younan, New York
Chris Johnson, Alabama
Julian is actually from Paterson NJ. Still a very impressive line up. I know Julian like some others on this list will be making their Men's Division Debut.

Now, my question, not to divert off the list request" is that with all their success at the JO Level should they be moved up to Open Class or start off at Novice in the Men's until their 11th bout? I think if I'm not mistaken they go directly to Open (more than 11 bouts boxed)
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Now, my question, not to divert off the list request" is that with all their success at the JO Level should they be moved up to Open Class or start off at Novice in the Men's until their 11th bout? I think if I'm not mistaken they go directly to Open (more than 11 bouts boxed)
They go directly to the open class and do not start over again. Heck - some of our SoCal boxers have 100 bouts, and international, experience by the time they turn 17! Can you imagine them starting over as novice? 8)
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Each and every year competitions are getting better and better. I do agree with most of you guys but there are a few boxers i feel that they are being over looked. Milton Santiago has won Silver Gloves National, Ringside and etc, Mark Reyes Jr. is also being over looked, I believe with speed power and healthy he can easily win National Silver Gloves this year at 156.
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AmateurBoxingInsider wrote:1. Gary Salazar 119
2. Gervonta Davis 125
3. Kareem Martin 145
4. Erickson Lubin 132
5. Julian Rodriguez 138
6. Anthony Simms 165
7. Jesus Luna 106
8. Jaricio O'Quinn 114
9. Hector Valdez 114
10. Gary Russell 114
11. John Luna 165
12. Javier Martinez 145
13. Junior Younan 176+
14. Chase Calloway 145
15. Jose Alday 138
All very worthy and proven boxers!
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Re: Top 10 Pound for Pound Junior Rankings (14,15,16)

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roughhouse75 wrote:Each and every year competitions are getting better and better. I do agree with most of you guys but there are a few boxers i feel that they are being over looked. Milton Santiago has won Silver Gloves National, Ringside and etc, Mark Reyes Jr. is also being over looked, I believe with speed power and healthy he can easily win National Silver Gloves this year at 156.


I agree with you on Santiago. I believe Mark has potential but needs to win Silver Gloves this year at 15. He does have some competition this year at 56.
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AmateurBoxingInsider wrote:1. Gary Salazar 119
2. Gervonta Davis 125
3. Kareem Martin 145
4. Erickson Lubin 132
5. Julian Rodriguez 138
6. Anthony Simms 165
7. Jesus Luna 106
8. Jaricio O'Quinn 114
9. Hector Valdez 114
10. Gary Russell 114
11. John Luna 165
12. Javier Martinez 145
13. Junior Younan 176+
14. Chase Calloway 145
15. Jose Alday 138

Other boxers that could easily be above ^
- Hugo Garcia Jr 138
- Lamont Roach Jr 132
- Arnold Alejandro Jr 110/114
- Moses Taylor 15
- Flavio Beccera 154

I did my top 15 because it was hard to not include some other worthy boxers.
good list i have seen Salazar and he is the best i have seen thus far
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good list i have seen Salazar and he is the best i have seen thus far
Gary will be boxing in the elite division next year, in both the Golden Gloves and U.S. Championships, at 123 Lbs. He has already qualified at that weight for the Guatemala team and will be competing in the America's Cup in Brazil in an attempt to box in the 2012 Olympics. Gary has personally assured me that he WILL bring back the Olympic gold medal at 123 Lbs. 8)
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boxmel wrote:
good list i have seen Salazar and he is the best i have seen thus far
Gary will be boxing in the elite division next year, in both the Golden Gloves and U.S. Championships, at 123 Lbs. He has already qualified at that weight for the Guatemala team and will be competing in the America's Cup in Brazil in an attempt to box in the 2012 Olympics. Gary has personally assured me that he WILL bring back the Olympic gold medal at 123 Lbs. 8)
That kid Salazar looks like a Solid Champion for a long time coming. That would be incredible if he could get a medal in Olympics at the age of 17 ?
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My noted on previous list (not my order but my two cents)

1. Gary Salazar 119 - my favorite boxer to talk to! Love this kid and can't wait for him to make good on the damage he promised me he'd do in open class.
2. Gervonta Davis 125 - known him since he was about 9. One of the best in the country and again can't wait to see him in the open.
3. Kareem Martin 145 - really a man in a boys body. The hardest hitting kid I've ever seen and could crack at 12
4. Erickson Lubin 132- looked like a pro vs. Amateurs at national JOs. Pretty sure he had the largest margin of victory of all boxers competing
5. Julian Rodriguez 138- gets better every time I see him. Don't go toe to toe with this kid, cause he will demolish you
6. Anthony Simms 165 - huge jump in weight class but still has his boxing skills with the size jump.
7. Jesus Luna 106 all he does is win and finally got a chance to see him live
8. Jaricio O'Quinn 114 jump on the scene with amazing power
9. Hector Valdez 114 scrappy kid who can box and bang
10. Gary Russell 114 you know what us get with the Russell crew. Will be making waves after making JO nationals for the first year
11. John Luna 165
12. Javier Martinez 145
13. Junior Younan 176+
14. Chase Calloway 145
15. Jose Alday 138 really like this kid two but he just ran into a buzzsaw in j. Rodriguez at JOs
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I believe one boxer that should be added to that list is Kevin Salgado out of Chicago. Kevin is a 2010 National Jr GG champ at 125.
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boxout wrote:I believe one boxer that should be added to that list is Kevin Salgado out of Chicago. Kevin is a 2010 National Jr GG champ at 125.
Invitational aren't weighed as much as the Silvers or JOs both of which are advancing tournaments lasting over three different stages and multiple months. The Jr. GGs is a pay to box that is held over a few days. Maybe three bouts at the max
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Re: Top 10 Pound for Pound Junior Rankings (14,15,16)

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ALLSTARboxing wrote:
roughhouse75 wrote:Each and every year competitions are getting better and better. I do agree with most of you guys but there are a few boxers i feel that they are being over looked. Milton Santiago has won Silver Gloves National, Ringside and etc, Mark Reyes Jr. is also being over looked, I believe with speed power and healthy he can easily win National Silver Gloves this year at 156.


I agree with you on Santiago. I believe Mark has potential but needs to win Silver Gloves this year at 15. He does have some competition this year at 56.[/quote milton santiago 132 or 139. a friend told me antonio vargas from fl won, and mark reyes jr. is boxing at 147 not 156 he said mark looks huge at 147
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Kevin Salgado is a good fighter. He won the 2010 Jr GG at 110 not 125. He lost to Lamont Roach Jr. in the 2011 Jr GG Championship at 125lb. Roach Jr. also won the 2010 National Jr. GG at 125lb. :bag:
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DA'QUAN JOHNSON 15 AT 176 MADE A STATEMENT AT THIS YEAR JO'S AN WON THE 2011 RINGSIDE WORLDS AT 176 . :bow:
CHRIS FORBES IS MAKING A COME IN 2012 LOOK OUT !!!! :OhYes:
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just found out mark reyes jr. will not be attending regional silver gloves by a right hand injury my friend said it could be broken.
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Chase 16... 6'0.... 160.... 80 Amateur Bouts.... Fighting at 154 This Year. Getting Bigger Stronger. Loves Boxing!
We are scheduled for January 28th in Kansas City, KS.
Then March Arnold Classic I think?
Then Kansas City Golden Gloves - Too young to advance.
Then Title Nationals.
Junior Olympics!!!!!!!
NJGG...
Ringside World....
Anything Else???
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Rob Calloway wrote:Chase 16... 6'0.... 160.... 80 Amateur Bouts.... Fighting at 154 This Year. Getting Bigger Stronger. Loves Boxing!
We are scheduled for January 28th in Kansas City, KS.
Then March Arnold Classic I think?
Then Kansas City Golden Gloves - Too young to advance.
Then Title Nationals.
Junior Olympics!!!!!!!
NJGG...
Ringside World....
Anything Else???
Rob, your son has a promising future ahead. I watched him closely at Ringside and couldn't believe the decision. Talk about controversial!!!!!! :witzend: I talked to him briefly after and he's a well spoken young man. His style is very professional and he is one of few I have seen with pure boxing skill. Look forward to watching him this year. I will definitely be pulling for him at the JOs
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Re: Top 10 Pound for Pound Junior Rankings (14,15,16)

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Excited to see the first rankings of the year! When do you anticpate posting them?

My thoughts.....
1. Gary Salazar
2. Julian Rodriguez
3. Erick Lubin
4. Gervonta Davis
5. Anthony Simms
6. Kareem Martin
7. Jesus Luna
8. Hector Valdez
9. Jose Alday
10. Moses Taylor
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Metro Boxing 2 wrote:Excited to see the first rankings of the year! When do you anticpate posting them?

My thoughts.....
1. Gary Salazar
2. Julian Rodriguez
3. Erick Lubin
4. Gervonta Davis
5. Anthony Simms
6. Kareem Martin
7. Jesus Luna
8. Hector Valdez
9. Jose Alday
10. Moses Taylor
Chase Calloway 6'0... 154... Boxing 100 Percent from now until FB ...


Looks Good But I will Put Chase in their at #7.... We will see this Year though...?
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AmateurBoxingInsider

Thank You for your kind words about my son. He Loves Boxing and is getting better everyday. Loves to train and learn more everyday. I'm constantly looking for different techniques etc... but I agree he is a pure boxer with great jab. Chase will be 154 all year until ringside this august ... maybe 165 but so far holding good at 154. I'm taking him to Ohio for Arnold Classic Thursday for our 1st tourney. He is 16 until Nov 6th so we hope to make all the Tournaments this year. Goal to win Junior Olympic Nationals at 154 this year...??? I leave for Australia march 9th then fight 17th... I win One more but if I lose I will retire for Good and just train Chase 'Kid Dynamite" Calloway 6'0 154 80 Amateur Bouts Right handed. :TU:
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