should a weigh-in be on the day of the fight

[wesley05]

Am watching the Booth V Quigg fight an a no Booth is no big S Bantam but Quigg looks 3 weights above Too Smooth. I really think this should be addressed before some brave warrior gets hurt. In my eyes if your fighting for a championship belt you should walk in the ring at that weight. IMO

[Hagler2002]

Not the best of fights to use as an example, personally I think there is more chance of a "brave warrior" getting hurt boiling down and not re-hydrating come fight time.

[whiskey]

I think it would separate the men from the boilers.

[LeedsLad]

Yes, same day weigh-ins for me.

If a fighter looks bad on the scales don't let him fight.

Same day weigh-ins
15 rounds for championship fights
10 weight classes

[josh fg]

I think day before weigh ins were introduced because of health issues of boiling down, however there seem also to be issues with people being too big for their opponents, Scott Harrison used to do it too much.

I think perhaps a check wieght the next day making sure people aren't over 7lb over their weight.

[jonp]

I think day before weigh ins were introduced because of health issues of boiling down, however there seem also to be issues with people being too big for their opponents, Scott Harrison used to do it too much.

I think perhaps a check wieght the next day making sure people aren't over 7lb over their weight.

Great idea some boxers have turned weight regain into such an art the safety factor is kind of unbalnced by the fact of someone fighting some one way too big. ie Arturo gatti Joey gamache

[cbellshaw]

As a trainer i agree with 24 hr weigh in but also like the idea of only being 7 lbs over s few hours before fight. Think it can only be safer and fairer for all boxers.

[T.M.K]

As a trainer i agree with 24 hr weigh in but also like the idea of only being 7 lbs over s few hours before fight. Think it can only be safer and fairer for all boxers.

If anyone subscribes to the 24-hour weigh-in and let boxers replenish - then surely it has to be a % for the weight division and not a general rule. 7lbs for a Cruiserweight and 7lbs for Flyweight are hugely different things, so surely a % is fairer all round?

Personally I'd bring back same-day weigh-ins. As pros they need to take more responsibility in knowing which division they should safely be boxing-in, and have the governing body in charge making sure they still don't "replenish" by too large an amount by fight-time.

Col/"T.M.K"

[LeedsLad]

As a trainer i agree with 24 hr weigh in but also like the idea of only being 7 lbs over s few hours before fight. Think it can only be safer and fairer for all boxers.

If anyone subscribes to the 24-hour weigh-in and let boxers replenish - then surely it has to be a % for the weight division and not a general rule. 7lbs for a Cruiserweight and 7lbs for Flyweight are hugely different things, so surely a % is fairer all round?

Personally I'd bring back same-day weigh-ins. As pros they need to take more responsibility in knowing which division they should safely be boxing-in, and have the governing body in charge making sure they still don't "replenish" by too large an amount by fight-time.

Col/"T.M.K"

I agree.

With the modern ideas in terms of conditioning and also the medical procedures in place there's no need for the 24hr weigh-in.

All this has done has enabled bigger fighters to take off the harder last few lbs and then pack the lbs back on afterwards.

A middleweight contest should be two guys weighing between 155 and 160 before the fight, not one weighing 165 and another in the high 170s.

To me though it's no co-incidence that fighters who don't drain are more successful. Mayweather and Pacquiao aren't drainers, neither is Froch, who is still improving at 34. Spend your time working on your skills, not battling with the scales. Being 160+ on fight night didn't exactly help Victoria Ortiz, did it?

[m1kee50]

in some sports they have hydration tests... weigh in on the day and with your blood-water level above a certain % or the fights off. Cant be too heavy then, cant be too drained either.

[Emmseegee]

in some sports they have hydration tests... weigh in on the day and with your blood-water level above a certain % or the fights off. Cant be too heavy then, cant be too drained either.

This is something i was gonna look up when got the chance as i thought there may be something similar out there.

The size difference between fighters is definitely an issue, the fighters who don't drain themselves to make a weight seem to have longer careers as all the handwork to make weight seems to catch up with some fighters!

[Lightsoot]

I'd like SKY to start displaying what the fighters weigh on the night, just to put this into perspective.

[keithmoonhangover]

Weighing in the day before gives the naturally bigger guy a dangerous advantage.

Imagine if you are a natural Welter and you make the weight for a fight. Your opponent makes weight and puts 21 poounds on before the fight.

147 vs 168 is not a fair fight. The fighters should have the same weight limit when the first bell rings. If a guy can't make weight, he needs to move up a division.

[dondada]

No.

I like the idea that Spencer Oliver put forward on Ringside that the weigh in should still be 24 hours before the fight but then a fighter is only allowed to put a certain amount of weight back on by fight time.

This should be able to be monitored quite easily.

[bad mamma jamma]

I was thinking exactly the same watching the booth fight. 24 hour weigh ins are flawed. Whilst I understand why they were brought in, they can lead to situations which are just as dangerous – where a fighter is much too big for his opponent. There are 2 solutions, keep 24 hour weigh ins but then weight them again on the day of the fight. If they have put on more than say 6 pounds they are penalised, possibly leading to the fight being cancelled. OR revert back to same day weigh ins, but boxers and trainers take more personal responsibility for their own health, and fight at a more natural weight. Some fighters look like they have come out of concentration camps at the weigh ins – an example was ryan walsh last week, at his weigh in he looked ill.

[Chambers2]

It is a Catch-22. Same day weigh ins would initially force people to move into a higher weight class and make things a bit more level but fighters would soon start to think they can hit the weight on the day and rehydrate in time for the fight. We would also lose a fair few championship fights in the early days as lots of guys would get their margins wrong and miss the weight.

On the plus side there would be fewer fights in which one guys massively out-weighs another, the negative is dehydration and guys coming in dead at the weight with very little time to recover

That sums it up IMO, same day weigh-in is not the solution for me. It would be a dangerous transition to same day weigh-ins as well, because it would change all the weight divisions and if boxers misjudge what division they should be in we'll be getting half dead fighters entering the ring.Another option is to have an 'entering the ring weight limit' per division, but that would also result in hydration issues.

[dondada]

No.

I like the idea that Spencer Oliver put forward on Ringside that the weigh in should still be 24 hours before the fight but then a fighter is only allowed to put a certain amount of weight back on by fight time.

This should be able to be monitored quite easily.

Problem is with who does the monitoring. Commissions could do it but we have seen that the check weigh in checks don’t always get obeyed and it will be tough to pull someone out of a fight if they put on too much weigh overnight as the commissions, governing bodies and other regulatory institutions are either ropey or incompetent.

This would be a different check weigh in as it would be after, rather than before, the official weigh in.

All boxers in championship fights get on scales at 6pm or whatever on the evening of the fight...the Board has officials there at that time anyway...just a thought.

[Chambers2]

I'd like SKY to start displaying what the fighters weigh on the night, just to put this into perspective.

Yeah same here, seems to be standard in the US

[grub]

A number of pros and cons; but capping the amount of post weigh-in weight gain sounds sensible.

I might be wrong, but don't the IBF do something similar alraedy? Didn't Gamboa forfeit his IBF Feather title in the fight with Solis for refusing to take the fight-day re-weigh? Not sure what criteria the IBF use though.

[Shirow]

I've said for a while that there should be a 5% maximum weight gain after the 24 hour weigh-in so that would be 5.6lbs for a flyweight, 8lbs for a middle and 10lbs for a Cruiser. I think that's plenty. If the fighter rehydrates to more they should be treated like any fighter who can't make weight.
Fighters have had their careers grind to a halt when the body says no more like Corrales, Castillo and Nate Campbell. Young fighters can get away with it in the short term but it only gives them a short term unfair advantage. The risk of damage due to the brain fluid not being replenished in time is the greatest danger though.

This couldn't be monitored for every low level fight so how about for the any title from area up so it would encourage boxers to pick the right weight from the start if they have any ambition at all.

I watched Donaire (rumoured to weigh 130lbs in the ring) dwarfing Narvaez (his first fight up from Super flyweight) at Bantam this weekend and it makes a mockery of the weight divisions.

[TJ77]

Alvarez springs to mind would definately even things up but while protecting smaller fighters wouldnt it leave fighters who struggle to make weight weaker and more prone to getting hurt :?? .

[keithmoonhangover]

When the bell rings for the first round, both fighters should be under the weight limit for their division.

[Craig14]

When the bell rings for the first round, both fighters should be under the weight limit for their division.

What even heavyweights?

[Londonirish]

When the bell rings for the first round, both fighters should be under the weight limit for their division.

What even heavyweights?

No weight Limit for Heavy's..... I think it would make it fairer but it would cause to much injury.. You'd see a lot more deaths in boxing and Boxing dont need anything like that...

[Craig14]

When the bell rings for the first round, both fighters should be under the weight limit for their division.

What even heavyweights?

No weight Limit for Heavy's..... I think it would make it fairer but it would cause to much injury.. You'd see a lot more deaths in boxing and Boxing dont need anything like that...

I know I was only messing with the new Roman Polanski