Have u ever heard of this???
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ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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Have u ever heard of this???
I have a coach telling me he has never heard of a weigh-in a few hours before an amateur show...not in Golden Gloves or on a regular show...he says they weigh in that morning or the night before. how is that possible? Ive been boxing for 30 years and other than at national tournaments we have ALWAYS weighed in a few hours before the show...at our Golden Gloves and ABF's for example if its a 7 pm show they have the weigh-in at 5. How do they do it where YOU live???
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bodyshopboxer
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ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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Re: Have u ever heard of this???
I figured that...where are u from? Obviously I knew this coach was full of beans but I just wanted to verify LOL
Re: Have u ever heard of this???
We (Allegheny Mountain LBC, basically the greater Pittsburgh area) do weigh ins the same way you do. For a 7pm show, we typically start weigh ins and doctor prefight checkups around 5pm. I do know that a friend in CA said they have weigh ins and prefight checkups sometimes starting as early as 10am, sometimes around 1pm.
The follow up question is do you have most of the bouts 'prematched' before the show, or do you have a bunch of kids show up and you match them on the spot? We usually have our fight card mostly determined prior to the show. There may be some changes as guys drop out, or miss weight or something. I do know some LBCs just have people show up, and then based on who shows up, they match bouts right then and there.
The follow up question is do you have most of the bouts 'prematched' before the show, or do you have a bunch of kids show up and you match them on the spot? We usually have our fight card mostly determined prior to the show. There may be some changes as guys drop out, or miss weight or something. I do know some LBCs just have people show up, and then based on who shows up, they match bouts right then and there.
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Most SoCal shows start at 1 p.m. and weigh-ins are from 9 to 10:30 a.m.; 7 p.m. evening shows - weigh-ins are 4 to 5:30 p.m. There is some prematching but it's mostly putting together matches after weigh-ins. We have two, if not three, shows every weekend so it's fairly easy to get a match. ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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Re: Have u ever heard of this???
Mel, just as I thought...and the crazy thing is that the coach in question, u DEFINITELY know him...I dont know what kind of nonsense he is trying to run on me but he told me in his 4 decades in the sport he has NEVER heard of weighing in so close to a show????!!!!!!!!
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Maybe in another life!Mel, just as I thought...and the crazy thing is that the coach in question, u DEFINITELY know him...
He's over 80 and suffering from dementia? Maybe where he comes from they do things differently.......... ;;-)but he told me in his 4 decades in the sport he has NEVER heard of weighing in so close to a show????!!!!!!!!
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I will not compete in any matches where the weigh-ins are so late and have to hold and dihydrate that long. Maybe every body dont hold tournaments or matches the same, but my Golden Gloves and LBC Tournaments weigh-ins are at 7 am to 9 am, Ringside, PAL,Title tournaments are 7 am to 9 am. and most of the matches I participate on weigh ins are no later than 11:00 AM. Can't say it those not happen, but I will not participate in a match where weigh ins are so very close to the bouts. Just me. I have over 80 bouts, and my coach who also trains professional boxers agree with me.
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I have heard of it, but not in Golden Gloves Tournaments or USA Boxing Tournaments, I have heard of this late weight ins in local shows. I took my boxers to a show where weigh-ins where at 3 and the show started at 5, NEVER AGAIN , my guys were pre-matched and by the time we weighed in the other guys were 8 to 10 pounds over our weight. USA Boxing rule is 7:00 am to 9:00 pm but I guess every LBC can dictate their own time for weigh ins. As coaches is our preference to make the right decisions for our boxers as we see them, and I dont like (my personal preference) to compete when weigh ins are so close to the bouts, that is why professional boxers weigh in the night before so they can hydrate properly. Again that is my humble oppinion and the way I do bussiness with my boxers.
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Those weights are okay, as long as they fit within the "matched bouts" rules. It is too bad that your prematched opponents didn't weigh in the weight you wanted, but it does happen.my guys were pre-matched and by the time we weighed in the other guys were 8 to 10 pounds over our weight.
For national and regional tournaments ONLY. This rule does not apply to local shows.USA Boxing rule is 7:00 am to 9:00 pm
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In our local area, Maryland mostly Baltimore, the weigh-ins are like you do John in Connecticut. Even for the GG's you can weigh-in in the morning on weight or a couple of hours before the bout and you get a 2 pound weight allowance. On local shows you just have to use common sense with the weights. No need to have to be exact weight if it is just a local show and not a tournament. Some people have to be idiots when it comes to some rules and not use good common sense.
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A lot of times for local shows, you have boxers driving long distances to get to the show. sometimes they come from out of state. It does not make sense to have a 7-9 am weigh-in when people are working or going to school when they can weigh-in with a weight allowance a few hours before a local show and not mess up their whole day.
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ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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Re: Have u ever heard of this???
thats where the issues lie...boxers who have to come in from 2 hours away. no way they can miss work and school...what we plan to do is hopefully have a commish member from the other state weigh in those guys in on the morning of...
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clarkringone
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Re: Have u ever heard of this???
USA boxing rules say you must wiegh the same day as the show, definatly not the night before. It is usually only national tournaments that boxers wiegh in the morning. Your right that most people can't take off from work or school and then spend al day waiting to box at night. Thats crazy.
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was this discussed to every body that the weigh ins where in the afternoon?, because I dont know what the issue is, if a boxer don't want to weigh in that late, he just dont box or show for the show, is his choice if he wants to box or not. So what is the big deal, My self, I would not attend a show were I have to wait all day holding my weight and then have to box. But that is my choice. I dont care about the rest of the boxers that is their choice also. If this is a local show, just have local official who can verify the weights for who ever can make it in the morning and the others in the afternoon. I work at night and train in the day time, when I go to shows, I have to make arrengements so I can Box. Most of the times I go to shows on Saturdays. My Golden Gloves weigh ins are 7 to 9 am regardless who have to work. If any body dont agree on the times, just don't go.
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Weighins here in LBC 38(Northern California) vary,Tournaments are 7am-9am like most,for local shows it varies,I do about 15 a year,we usually have a 2-3 hr window from the end of the weighins to the start of the show.In Central California,I've seen anywhere from 3-5 hours,which since I travel there because I have alot of open kids,it make it tough having to sit around and not have a hotel to go to,since it's a local one day show.As for the issue of dehydrating,I'm assuming your talking about tournaments not local shows,I have alot of Friday night shows,so my weighins are usually 3:30-5:30pm,I never have coaches composing since the kids are boxing at their walk around weight not a tournament class weight
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funkmehard
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Re: Have u ever heard of this???
Just another coach who doesn't know a thing. He will also tell you the pro's weigh in the same day of their fight.ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY wrote:I have a coach telling me he has never heard of a weigh-in a few hours before an amateur show...not in Golden Gloves or on a regular show...he says they weigh in that morning or the night before. how is that possible? Ive been boxing for 30 years and other than at national tournaments we have ALWAYS weighed in a few hours before the show...at our Golden Gloves and ABF's for example if its a 7 pm show they have the weigh-in at 5. How do they do it where YOU live???
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Another silly response about a person no body knows about. This coach got me thru international competitions in the 90's and world championships in 95, and has his own profesional boxing promotions wihich I have boxed on his cards, so he knows about professional boxing weigh ins. Like everything here this issue has been brought out of content. By talking to him he dont't care about weigh ins that close to the bouts, and believes is up to who ever is running the shows to do the weigh ins any way they desire, he just try to stay away from those weigh ins which is his choice and as a former amateur boxer mine too. There is a lot of rules in USA Boxing that most of us don't like but we have to respected, but we still don't like it.
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In norcal it depends on the shows. Usually the weigh-in is 3 - 4 hours b4 fight.To be fair to the fighters it should be at least 3hours. Sum fighters may be from out of town and have to drive around looking for places to eat after the weigh-in. Sum fighters can only eat halal or kosher foods according to thier religion. 2hrs weigh- in b4 the show may not be enough time for sum fighters from out of town.ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY wrote:I have a coach telling me he has never heard of a weigh-in a few hours before an amateur show...not in Golden Gloves or on a regular show...he says they weigh in that morning or the night before. how is that possible? Ive been boxing for 30 years and other than at national tournaments we have ALWAYS weighed in a few hours before the show...at our Golden Gloves and ABF's for example if its a 7 pm show they have the weigh-in at 5. How do they do it where YOU lIn ive???
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If I am hauling a van load of kids on a 5 or 6 hour trip, the last thing i want to do is have to get there way early for weight in and then your stuck with nothing to do all day until bout time. we don't always get a hotel so it makes it hard when these places have weigh ins in the morning and bouts in the evening.
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Hi guys
I coach for a club in England and just wondered what differences you had in the states. We weigh in a couple of hours before the show starts, or in championships on the morning of the comp.
Boxers here must use ABA/AIBA approved wraps and may pass through the knuckle but tape is only allowed rounD the wrist to secure bandages. I've seen clips on youtube of american am boxing where boxers have their hands wrapped like pros - is this allowed?
Are most of your am clubs run by volunteers and coaches all volunteers? Thats mainly the case over here. Are a lot of clubs pro-am or am only?
Just interested really.
I coach for a club in England and just wondered what differences you had in the states. We weigh in a couple of hours before the show starts, or in championships on the morning of the comp.
Boxers here must use ABA/AIBA approved wraps and may pass through the knuckle but tape is only allowed rounD the wrist to secure bandages. I've seen clips on youtube of american am boxing where boxers have their hands wrapped like pros - is this allowed?
Are most of your am clubs run by volunteers and coaches all volunteers? Thats mainly the case over here. Are a lot of clubs pro-am or am only?
Just interested really.
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ramosboxingDOTcom
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Re: Have u ever heard of this???
In texas most boxers weigh in early in the morningfunkmehard wrote:Just another coach who doesn't know a thing. He will also tell you the pro's weigh in the same day of their fight.ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY wrote:I have a coach telling me he has never heard of a weigh-in a few hours before an amateur show...not in Golden Gloves or on a regular show...he says they weigh in that morning or the night before. how is that possible? Ive been boxing for 30 years and other than at national tournaments we have ALWAYS weighed in a few hours before the show...at our Golden Gloves and ABF's for example if its a 7 pm show they have the weigh-in at 5. How do they do it where YOU live???
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Travis h.
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In crazy ole Pennsylvania, Greg Sirb has same day weigh ins for the pro shows. they are in the morning of course, but it is a standard deal in Pennsylvania.funkmehard wrote:Just another coach who doesn't know a thing. He will also tell you the pro's weigh in the same day of their fight.ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY wrote:I have a coach telling me he has never heard of a weigh-in a few hours before an amateur show...not in Golden Gloves or on a regular show...he says they weigh in that morning or the night before. how is that possible? Ive been boxing for 30 years and other than at national tournaments we have ALWAYS weighed in a few hours before the show...at our Golden Gloves and ABF's for example if its a 7 pm show they have the weigh-in at 5. How do they do it where YOU live???
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Is this also the case for the amateur shows? What Greg Sirb does for the pros is not relevant.In crazy ole Pennsylvania, Greg Sirb has same day weigh ins for the pro shows. they are in the morning of course, but it is a standard deal in Pennsylvania.
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Travis h.
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It is relevant because the guy right before me just mentioned how it would be crazy if the pros weighed in the same day.....boxmel wrote:Is this also the case for the amateur shows? What Greg Sirb does for the pros is not relevant.In crazy ole Pennsylvania, Greg Sirb has same day weigh ins for the pro shows. they are in the morning of course, but it is a standard deal in Pennsylvania.