Offtopic - Rent / Flatmates

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:04

Just out of interest, anybody know much about this?

A flat mate of 2 months has just given notice of four weeks that she is moving out. She originally paid four weeks deposit. She is now refusing to pay her final months rent and is saying to use her deposit for it even though doing this leaves me exposed for outstanding bills and potential damages which may arise when it's time for her to move. Rental in the apartment was agreed verbally with nothing in writing (I've always done it that way without problems but never again!). What do you guys think?

J · Post by J » 01 Aug 2005, 11:10

striclyl speaking she should pay you rent she has to have your agreement to use the deposit as rent.

if i were you mate, i would say ok fair enough but any damage i want reimbursing.

at least that is a comprimise that should suit both parties.

(unlike me to be reasonable i know but thats my take)

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:10

Without it in writing I don't think you have many options mate. She's kind of got you in a corner here so the best bet would be to rig up one of those webcams in her shower and post a link to everyone on the boards.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:12

you want me to send the boys round?

J · Post by J » 01 Aug 2005, 11:15

Coconut wrote:Without it in writing I don't think you have many options mate. She's kind of got you in a corner here so the best bet would be to rig up one of those webcams in her shower and post a link to everyone on the boards.

excellent idea

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:41

J wrote:
Coconut wrote:Without it in writing I don't think you have many options mate. She's kind of got you in a corner here so the best bet would be to rig up one of those webcams in her shower and post a link to everyone on the boards.
excellent idea

Unless she's minging...

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:51

John you're mad going with all this "verbal agreement" stuff. I'd count myself lucky if I were you and get something simple draughted up for the next one. Too many piss takers out there.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:54

The fact she hasn't signed a tenancy agreement, means you don't have a leg to stand on.

However, if she is a lodger in the place and you live there, then in fact she doesn't have any rights, you can simply wreak your revenge by telling her to fornicate off and flinging all her shit into the street before the month is up.

Tenants who share a house with the owner/occupier, don't have any recompense in law, as they stay there at the discretion of the landlord.

So in this case, if she is refusing to pay rent and being a cow, then tell her to fornicate off or you are calling the police...then see if she wants to be such a stubborn twat.

J · Post by J » 01 Aug 2005, 11:55

i like your style jim

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 01 Aug 2005, 11:59

jamesmcdonnell wrote:The fact she hasn't signed a tenancy agreement, means you don't have a leg to stand on.

However, if she is a lodger in the place and you live there, then in fact she doesn't have any rights, you can simply wreak your revenge by telling her to fornicate off and flinging all her shit into the street before the month is up.

Tenants who share a house with the owner/occupier, don't have any recompense in law, as they stay there at the discretion of the landlord.

So in this case, if she is refusing to pay rent and being a cow, then tell her to fornicate off or you are calling the police...then see if she wants to be such a stubborn twat.

excellent

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 01 Aug 2005, 12:02

I wonder why she's effing off after 2 months anyway? Maybe John farts in the kitchen. Women hate that.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Aug 2005, 12:05

John, is it actually your own place? If it is, you've got her by the muff curlies..

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 01 Aug 2005, 13:30

Throw her shit out the front door as soon as you read this. If you don't have a leg to stand on, then neither does she.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 02 Aug 2005, 03:35

No, she's an Aussie. She's moving out to get somewhere cheaper in Clapham in a house share with Aussie friends. It's not my place, I took it on as a one year lease and needed her out anyway at the end of the month as I've a mate from back home moving over here who I'm getting in. I have to tell her that she either leaves a deposit until the end or else she has to move out with immediate effect.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 02 Aug 2005, 03:37

Plus I also managed to get this definition of a rental security deposit:

A security deposit is not the same as rent. It is money that actually belongs to the tenant but is held by the landlord for tenant-caused damages and sometimes past-due rent. Without the agreement of the landlord, a security deposit may not legally be used as the last month's rent.

Spreadking · Post by **Spreadking** » 02 Aug 2005, 17:30

do the business in her ranch dressing