WARMACHINE VS CHISORA!

[crusader]

Dimitrenko was nearly stopped against Eddie Chambers. Chisora would put him on the canvas time after time with that left hook.

We all know that Chisora was in no condition to fight against Fury.

Chambers never came close to stopping Dimitrenko; obviously you haven't seen the fight or are simply unable to recognize the difference between suffering a flash knockdown and being unable to continue. And besides, Chambers is one of the 6/7 best heavyweights in the world; he's faster than Chisora, more accurate, more skilled, and thus a much better fighter overall. And while Chambers is definitely not a big puncher, but he has managed to stop or drop better fighters than Chisora has.

You still haven't said what you are basing your opinion of Chisora on. His wins over Sam Sexton, Carl Baker, and completely shot Danny Williams? His one-sided loss to Fury? What has Chisora done to suggest that he would easily beat someone ranked in most top ten lists?

[Karl Jade]

Chambers had him on the canvas twice if memory serves. Dimitrenko's absolute crap.

I like Chisora's attributes. I think he defends himself well, has pretty good power and accuracy, and a good chin. His fighting style is heavily dependent on stamina, though. So when he's out of condition he'll look pretty average, as he did v Fury.

[crusader]

Chambers had him on the canvas twice if memory serves. Dimitrenko's absolute crap.

Right, so obviously your memory is poor or you didn't watch the fight.

[Karl Jade]

The fight was years ago, man. One fighter will get destroyed by the first powerful HW he meets, and the other is a natural CW who got schooled by Povetkin and frankly has no business fighting at HW.

If memory serves, he was on the canvas twice. If I'm wrong, by all means tell me - if it means that much to you. But don't hold it against me that I can't remember every second of the classic that was Dimitrenko - Chambers.

[crusader]

The fight was years ago, man. One fighter will get destroyed by the first powerful HW he meets, and the other is a natural CW who got schooled by Povetkin and frankly has no business fighting at HW.

If memory serves, he was on the canvas twice. If I'm wrong, by all means tell me - if it means that much to you. But don't hold it against me that I can't remember every second of the classic that was Dimitrenko - Chambers.

Chambers has scored plenty of good wins at HW and improved significantly following the lose to Povetkin. He is a consensus top ten HW and would make far less money if he moved down in weight, so to say that 'he has no business fighting at HW' is ridiculous. Dimitrenko is nothing special, but he is ranked in the top ten by most respected publications, and has proven himself to be at worst a good EBU champion.

Sure, Del Boy may look good beating up poor old Danny Williams or the obese Carl Baker, but as soon as he fought someone with the potential to go past British level (and Dimitrenko is better than any domestic operator) he lost convincingly.

I don't hold it against you that your account of Dimiitrenko-Chambers is inaccurate; I'm just pointing it out so you can stop yourself from making claims that are untrue.

[Karl Jade]

I understand why Chambers is fighting at HW, and it's the same reason why Bellew will stay at LHW. But a guy who can look overweight at 208 isn't anywhere near a true HW. That's what I meant. He'll lose to the next top 10-15 operator he faces, be it someone like Solis or more likely Arreola.

[crusader]

I understand why Chambers is fighting at HW, and it's the same reason why Bellew will stay at LHW. But a guy who can look overweight at 208 isn't anywhere near a true HW. That's what I meant. He'll lose to the next top 10-15 operator he faces, be it someone like Solis or more likely Arreola.

His only losses came against the number one fighter in the division and the number three fighter in the division, and he has wins against multiple opponents who were generally considered top 10 at the time, so I disagree with this point.

Chambers has also defeated better fighters than Arreola and Solis have, and I would give him a great chance of beating both of them.

[nobby_nobbins]

The aggrandizing effect that non-fight had on Chisora's reputation was not enough to convince people that he belonged in the ring with Klitschko (does any fighter?), but it was enough to convince many people that if Chisora gets in shape he would be able to successfully compete with the likes of Dimitrenko and Helenius. This is despite the fact that Chisora has never beaten anyone better than Sam Sexton.

Maybe Chisora is overrated for other reasons, but I don't recall such high appraisals of his potential before the Klitschko imbroglio.

Maybe I don't look at the right forums but I don't recall reading anywhere that Chisora was likely to beat Dimitrenko and Helenius. It's true Chisora got his name mentioned a lot more when he was lined up to face Wladimir and a raised profile is obviously a good thing. But weighed against that you've got the disruption and stress caused by three cancellations in a year. I think Chisora would have been better off if he'd continued fighting regularly, gradually gaining experience and building up his profile against half decent fighters as he was doing. This is a guy who needs to stay active or his focus and conditioning suffers.