allegedly is brilliant? (merged)

[Tommy Gunn13]

A channel not going to grow if its not advertised anywhere. How many people do you think will subscribe to this?

No idea, but if they advertise it when big fights come round it will grow over time. People will come on board because they want to see hyped fights and then stay, rather than signing up on day one when they are not sure what is on.

Not sure if people will sign up like that especially if you have to subscribe for year. Think it's a big gamble.

So can i pay month by month??

[Buncey]

Sad,
You are being picky... I will just check the spelling on that. The point I made is that you - face on TV or not - had the time and comfort and still messed up.
If you can't see any good in what has been broadcast then picky is the wrong spelling. That, or you have an agenda just like the boss on this site. I'm just saying.

Adios.

[Buncey]

A night of heavyweights sponsored by a beer company, with free chicken wings and donuts. Don't laugh, it's a sensible idea. The Homer Cup!

Adios.

[iamasadlittleboy]

Sad,
You are being picky... I will just check the spelling on that. The point I made is that you - face on TV or not - had the time and comfort and still messed up.
If you can't see any good in what has been broadcast then picky is the wrong spelling. That, or you have an agenda just like the boss on this site. I'm just saying.

Adios.

There is a LOT good with what is being broadcast (and I mean ALOT), the fact you lot are showing the full undercard is brilliant and something I'm a huge fan off, as is the fact you're picking up a lot of fights that wouldn't have been picked up by ANYONE in the UK. There is a hell of a lot of good. But there is also some some bad, I'd assume you would be wanting constructive criticism and asking for your "experts" to make sure they get some really blatant stuff right would be a key. Though I'll admit I'm not your biggest fan the chemistry you and Kerr have is great on screen and I do think you two should be the main studio guys for shows as your friendship shows and it often allows the shows to be more "friendly" to an audience. I also love the fact you have Enzo on the Mic and had Clinton Woods on recently (as well as Richie Woodhall who I'm a huge fan of) as those 3 really can offer a lot of insight (more so IMO than Nelson does on Sky).

My mistake was saying Chavez instead of Alvarez, both are protected Mexicans, but still I'm not being PAID FOR THIS, I'm trying to offer something constructive in saying that you really should be getting factual things right.

I've no agenda as such against Mr W. or the channel and I do intend to subscribe (especially if it's a 1 month rolling deal as opposed to a 12 month jobby, as it allows us customers the chance to avoid months where their isn't anything). I'd love to see Frank get his fighters some TV time on other mediums (against something I've mentioned, try to get fighters on Question of Sport, BBC News, BBC Radio 5 ANYTHING to try and make them more well known) to try and get the channel more viewers because sadly outside of us hardcore fans no one seems to know the station exists which is a massive shame. If the quality of shows continues through next year and you're still only getting the hardcore fans watching then, even you've got to admit, that'd be a huge shame. Appleby v Walsh deserved to be watched by more people than it got and it's no ones fault that the first few shows didn't get a monster audience we would all hope that more people start watching over the coming year though...right?

[Poncey]

Steve/exittored, Ian has his reasons and they are more than justifiable IMO.

[JamesH]

That, or you have an agenda just like the boss on this site.

Oh the irony.

[leforge]

Can't subscribe as its not on Virgin yet. Will also see what the schedule like before I subscribe. Who replacing Simpson v Selby fight?

[dondada]

Sad,
You are being picky... I will just check the spelling on that. The point I made is that you - face on TV or not - had the time and comfort and still messed up.
If you can't see any good in what has been broadcast then picky is the wrong spelling. That, or you have an agenda just like the boss on this site. I'm just saying.

Adios.

[earsjohn]

Agenda, agenda, agenda. This is madness...write down what Allegedly channel has so far delivered in six weeks and then look in the mirror and say: "Nah, as a boxing fan I don't need that."

Adios.

I don't think anyone on here is disputing the quality of fights that have been offered so far, but what people are questioning is the future output, especially when they are being asked to pay.

If the prospective line ups continue to look as exciting and as fulsome as the last 2 months, then you can guarantee most hardcore fight fans will fall over themselves to pay their money. But if its a schedule full of one-sided mismatches, lots of TBAs and limited quality foreign offerings, it will surely struggle to attract interest.

The subscription is to pay for that yet to be provided, not for the stuff you've already given us.

[leforge]

Agenda, agenda, agenda. This is madness...write down what Allegedly channel has so far delivered in six weeks and then look in the mirror and say: "Nah, as a boxing fan I don't need that."

Adios.

I don't think anyone on here is disputing the quality of fights that have been offered so far, but what people are questioning is the future output, especially when they are being asked to pay.

If the prospective line ups continue to look as exciting and as fulsome as the last 2 months, then you can guarantee most hardcore fight fans will fall over themselves to pay their money. But if its a schedule full of one-sided mismatches, lots of TBAs and limited quality foreign offerings, it will surely struggle to attract interest.

The subscription is to pay for that yet to be provided, not for the stuff you've already given us.

Some of the whats been shown looked good theres been some crap as well. The next two Friday live shows don't look good.

[orbtastic]

Did you see Keys' face when Woodhall made a vaguely critical comment about one of the fights on Saturday's card?

It was odd to see him on SKY Sports a few hours later.

[JimJim2009]

Yep I'll pay even though I could watch it all on streams. Not the biggest fan of the promoter, and I am concerned an obscure dedicated channel will only accelerate the sports decline into further obscurity, however as an armchair fan who watches everything available, by any means necessary, this is a good deal, if it didn't exist and somebody came up with the idea of two live shows a week for £2.50, spanning several hours apiece, and the return of the Bunce boxing hour thrown in for good measure, I'd fall over myself to sign up.

[leforge]

The next two weekends shows are weak. Mckenzie v Evans plus Chisora. Then Conquest v Owoh and return of Enzo Mac. They be better on one bill.

[JamesH]

I don't think the quality (up to now and in the schedule) is as good as some might suggest.

How many shows that would have tempted you to purchase as a PPV will be aired as part of your subs? One a year? Two a year?

I love the fact the undercard is shown, it's fantastic. But that's all the extra subs get you in my opinion, the other fights would have been shown free on Sky. Who knows what the future holds, but as has been pointed out elequently on the forum, there are a variety of reasons why the stable doesn't look big enough to fulfil promises. Bunceys show? Yeh ok, I like it. I prefer the understated presentation of ringside though, although a combination of the two shows would probably the dogs bits. Six hours of boxing a day is great, but not when you've seen it all over the previous two weeks.

I think it would reflect better on those who are involved in the channel if they were to engage some of the concerns, rather than just accusing people of not liking boxing, or suggesting they'll do it on the sly, or attacking their accuracy. It's just not very professional.

[jabnmove]

I don't think the quality (up to now and in the schedule) is as good as some might suggest.

How many shows that would have tempted you to purchase as a PPV will be aired as part of your subs? One a year? Two a year?

I love the fact the undercard is shown, it's fantastic. But that's all the extra subs get you in my opinion, the other fights would have been shown free on Sky. Who knows what the future holds, but as has been pointed out elequently on the forum, there are a variety of reasons why the stable doesn't look big enough to fulfil promises. Bunceys show? Yeh ok, I like it. I prefer the understated presentation of ringside though, although a combination of the two shows would probably the dogs bits. Six hours of boxing a day is great, but not when you've seen it all over the previous two weeks.

I think it would reflect better on those who are involved in the channel if they were to engage some of the concerns, rather than just accusing people of not liking boxing, or suggesting they'll do it on the sly, or attacking their accuracy. It's just not very professional.

But those other fights aren't shown on Sky for free though as you have to pay for Sky Sports. Where does this delusion that Sky show boxing for free come from? They never have. Sky Sports is a subscription channel.
If I'm wrong then I've been over paying Sky every month for the last 15 years! Murdoch, send me a cheque!!

[orbtastic]

There is a slight difference. You can't just sub to SKY and get boxing, you pay for their entire sports package.

allegedly is purely boxing, so for roughly the same fee they are providing what? More or less the same, but just from one UK promoter and some sub HBO cards from the US and the odd German feed?

[Poncey]

Dear Lord! Did I just read that right?!

[Captain Hook]

I'd pay £10 a month for this and another £10 on top if this meant they would sack Burdis.

x2

[Captain Hook]

Dear Lord! Did I just read that right?!

You did mate...

Oh dear

The channel has its good and bad - Burdis, Keys and Rawling are the worst

I think Enzo has done ok, Bunce has his moments but talks over everyone. Then again, that's nowt new

Lillis has been hit and miss but he's warming up, knows his stuff and well respected. I like him.

Most people watching this channel will know their boxing. So why don't they treat the viewer like that, rather than this painting-by-numbers style?

I agree with Gomez; let's have some more in-depth analysis. Talk to the viewer and treat them as an equal. Hopkins for example - we know his career, so don't just tell us

A) He's been in prison
B) He's fornicating old
c) He's got a big mouth

EVERYONE knows that...

When the viewer knows more than the TV 'experts' you know you're in bother.

PS Machoman - that was the post of the year pal :)

[jabnmove]

There is a slight difference. You can't just sub to SKY and get boxing, you pay for their entire sports package.

Allegedly channel is purely boxing, so for roughly the same fee they are providing what? More or less the same, but just from one UK promoter and some sub HBO cards from the US and the odd German feed?

Are you telling me that your Sky Sports package is £10 a month? As I said before, Murdoch et al are ripping me off then! I am paying much more than that and I only get Sky for the boxing.

£1.25 per show or a tenner a month for the content they have put out so far is more than fair and no ppv's for the big events, no annual subscription, sauerland, goldenboy, top rank all involved.

And I don't see how you can call Hopkins, Bute, Donaire sub HBO! they are the top 3 players in their respective divisions.

If they keep up this, it's a no brainer IMO.

[NazNaci1]

With the abundance of streams and the lack of cash around 'ere I'm not too sure.

I am of the same opinion, LC.

[allahsnackbar]

allegedy will have a dedicated team employed to crack down on the streamers

i will not be purchasing a subscription because of frank warrens previous garbage. You can't change the nature of the beast and no doubt he will be putting on rubbish frequently and the standard will drop. plus you will be expected to pay extra for ppv fights, i can guarantee you

[hitman_hatton1]

refuse to pay the man a cent.

[leforge]

There is a slight difference. You can't just sub to SKY and get boxing, you pay for their entire sports package.

Allegedly channel is purely boxing, so for roughly the same fee they are providing what? More or less the same, but just from one UK promoter and some sub HBO cards from the US and the odd German feed?

Are you telling me that your Sky Sports package is £10 a month? As I said before, Murdoch et al are ripping me off then! I am paying much more than that and I only get Sky for the boxing.

£1.25 per show or a tenner a month for the content they have put out so far is more than fair and no ppv's for the big events, no annual subscription, sauerland, goldenboy, top rank all involved.

And I don't see how you can call Hopkins, Bute, Donaire sub HBO! they are the top 3 players in their respective divisions.

If they keep up this, it's a no brainer IMO.

So you don't like any other sport than Boxing well this is right up your street. The trouble is the channel needs more casual fans to make it workwhich its not going to get.

[hitman_hatton1]

allegedy will have a dedicated team employed to crack down on the streamers

i will not be purchasing a subscription because of frank warrens previous garbage. You can't change the nature of the beast and no doubt he will be putting on rubbish frequently and the standard will drop. plus you will be expected to pay extra for ppv fights, i can guarantee you

yeah it'll be interesting to see what he does if he secures a big fight.

looking at how poor the crowd was the other night he's gonna need another source of income.