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Fury looked aweful tonight. No timing, fleshy around the middle and slow. Surprisingly he was open to looping overhand rights. He never got his jab going until the 3rd round. There's no way he trained for this.

Henessey spoke of him fighting again on January 28th next year. They need re-evaluate and take more time and improve his conditioning. He got lucky tonight.
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baulks wrote:Fury looked aweful tonight. No timing, fleshy around the middle and slow. Surprisingly he was open to looping overhand rights. He never got his jab going until the 3rd round. There's no way he trained for this.

Henessey spoke of him fighting again on January 28th next year. They need re-evaluate and take more time and improve his conditioning. He got lucky tonight.

His defence was pathetic....ate almost everything offered to him
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Final round wrote:
baulks wrote:Fury looked aweful tonight. No timing, fleshy around the middle and slow. Surprisingly he was open to looping overhand rights. He never got his jab going until the 3rd round. There's no way he trained for this.

Henessey spoke of him fighting again on January 28th next year. They need re-evaluate and take more time and improve his conditioning. He got lucky tonight.

His defence was pathetic....ate almost everything offered to him
Well he has a big appetite - have you seen his physique???

I am of the opinion that he has serious personal and motivational problems. He looked extremely soft for this fight and his legs were like sticks.
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Is time to gt on Fury and Price before is to late the British public want to see this fight or will it become one of those fights that never happen's Time for the BBBof C or the commonwealth to put this fight out for purse bids now
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FtmPress wrote:Is time to gt on Fury and Price before is to late the British public want to see this fight or will it become one of those fights that never happen's Time for the BBBof C or the commonwealth to put this fight out for purse bids now
At least Fury gets in the ring and fights and has gone beyond the likes of Price now.

He would spark glass jawed Price out easy inside 4 rds

Everyone on this site just moans about Fury but he had heart to get up off the canvas and beat his opponent in the next round and you can't ask for more then that.
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So long as we don't have a British ref I'd love to see Fury vs Price.
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exittored wrote:
FtmPress wrote:Is time to gt on Fury and Price before is to late the British public want to see this fight or will it become one of those fights that never happen's Time for the BBBof C or the commonwealth to put this fight out for purse bids now
At least Fury gets in the ring and fights and had gone beyond Prices level now.

He would spark glass jawed Price out easy inside 4 rds

Everyone on this site just moans about Fury but he had heart to get up off the canvas and beat his opponent in the next round and you can't ask for more then that.
I agree that Fury has been fighting at a higher level, but his recent results hardly suggest that he would easily defeat Price. Also, Fury doesn't seem to have the best chin either; if a non-puncher can drop and hurt him, Price can as well.
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exittored wrote:
FtmPress wrote:Is time to gt on Fury and Price before is to late the British public want to see this fight or will it become one of those fights that never happen's Time for the BBBof C or the commonwealth to put this fight out for purse bids now
At least Fury gets in the ring and fights and has gone beyond the likes of Price now.

He would spark glass jawed Price out easy inside 4 rds

Everyone on this site just moans about Fury but he had heart to get up off the canvas and beat his opponent in the next round and you can't ask for more then that.

You lost me there, Price would banjo the Fury in there tonight.
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crusader wrote:
exittored wrote:
FtmPress wrote:Is time to gt on Fury and Price before is to late the British public want to see this fight or will it become one of those fights that never happen's Time for the BBBof C or the commonwealth to put this fight out for purse bids now
At least Fury gets in the ring and fights and had gone beyond Prices level now.

He would spark glass jawed Price out easy inside 4 rds

Everyone on this site just moans about Fury but he had heart to get up off the canvas and beat his opponent in the next round and you can't ask for more then that.
I agree that Fury has been fighting at a higher level, but his recent results hardly suggest that he would easily defeat Price. Also, Fury doesn't seem to have the best chin either; if a non-puncher can drop and hurt him, Price can as well.
You're right, i'm just getting a bit pissed off everyone attacking Fury. I think he's no world beater but considering how active he's been the last few months then you have to allow him an off night every now and again.

What exactly has Price done so far to get such a great reputation on here apart from knocking out a few bums?

I still think he's way above Price though, he's has a Top 10 ranking with 2 or 3 sanctioning bodies and Price has nothing close to that so whats the point of the fight?
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Fury looked a very different fighter to the one vs Firtha.

He was 5lbs lighter then and his jab was VERY impressive. Tonight he looked like he wasn't mentally prepared or ready.

Until he got knocked down he was a shadow of himself.

The adrenaline from that obviously kicked him into action and the stoppage, although a tad premature was sensible - he'd knocked Pajkic down twice in quick succession and a 3rd time on the canvas for the Canadian looked as though it would follow soon after.

I'm guessing the training camp wasn't helped by switching trainers.

Fury must have made some good money now from this CH5 deal, so maybe take a bit of time out and fight again in March and employ Ruben Tabares - David Haye's nutritionist & strength coach and get Emanuel Steward to train him against a good European level opponent :TU:
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Also, while Fury's limitations are now abundantly clear to me, I must say that he is definitely a good fighter to watch. He's got that mix of vulnerability and balls.
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Maxsplit wrote:Fury looked a very different fighter to the one vs Firtha.

He was 5lbs lighter then and his jab was VERY impressive. Tonight he looked like he wasn't mentally prepared or ready.

Until he got knocked down he was a shadow of himself.

The adrenaline from that obviously kicked him into action and the stoppage, although a tad premature was sensible - he'd knocked Pajkic down twice in quick succession and a 3rd time on the canvas for the Canadian looked as though it would follow soon after.

I'm guessing the training camp wasn't helped by switching trainers.

Fury must have made some good money now from this CH5 deal, so maybe take a bit of time out and fight again in March and employ Ruben Tabares - David Haye's nutritionist & strength coach and get Emanuel Steward to train him against a good European level opponent :TU:
Tonight was a backward step for me from Fury. He looked in fairly poor shape again, I remember seeing him vs Chisora and he looked in the best shape of his career. It would appear he's gona backwards again as tonight he looked a bit flabby again and the tits and love handles were returning.

He came out and just didn't look up for it whatsoever, his mind looked elsewhere and it's a real worry to see someone in a ring in that frame of mind. Tonight he showed no boxing skills whatsoever, he just had a fight and luckily he was the bigger guy with the bigger punch, at a better level (I'm thinking Price) he'd get eaten alive with that attitude.

I certainly wouldn't rush him out for his next show, I know they want to keep the momentum going, but all the momentum will stop if he gets KO'd and that is looking more likely by the fight.
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Tunney wrote:
carlbcfc wrote:An in shape Chisora beats Fury!
Yes. Del Boy defeated himself by not coming in shape.
Fury would have beaten him anyway.
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FtmPress wrote:Is time to gt on Fury and Price before is to late the British public want to see this fight or will it become one of those fights that never happen's Time for the BBBof C or the commonwealth to put this fight out for purse bids now
Price has a final eliminator against McDermott, if he wins that then he will be made the mandatory challenger.

At the moment Price doesn't deserve to be the mandatory challenger.
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Brilliant fight from a fans point of view, but general consensus is right awful defence from Fury, against a level higher he'd be in trouble. On the other hand he's only 23 which is rediculously young for a HW these days, and he has only had 17 fights, seems to be fighting regularly enough for someone at his stage. Needs to use his feet more though.

The stoppage was premature but not too bad.
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josh fg wrote:Brilliant fight from a fans point of view, but general consensus is right awful defence from Fury, against a level higher he'd be in trouble. On the other hand he's only 23 which is rediculously young for a HW these days, and he has only had 17 fights, seems to be fighting regularly enough for someone at his stage. Needs to use his feet more though.

The stoppage was premature but not too bad.
He looks like he's 23 going on 43. Travellers seem to age terribly
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Chisora if he turned up in shape I think would beaten him. Mick comments were embarrassing. Dont think fighting in January after Xmas & talk of him going on celeb big brother are wise!
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exittored wrote:
crusader wrote:
exittored wrote: At least Fury gets in the ring and fights and had gone beyond Prices level now.

He would spark glass jawed Price out easy inside 4 rds

Everyone on this site just moans about Fury but he had heart to get up off the canvas and beat his opponent in the next round and you can't ask for more then that.
I agree that Fury has been fighting at a higher level, but his recent results hardly suggest that he would easily defeat Price. Also, Fury doesn't seem to have the best chin either; if a non-puncher can drop and hurt him, Price can as well.
You're right, i'm just getting a bit pissed off everyone attacking Fury. I think he's no world beater but considering how active he's been the last few months then you have to allow him an off night every now and again.

What exactly has Price done so far to get such a great reputation on here apart from knocking out a few bums?

I still think he's way above Price though, he's has a Top 10 ranking with 2 or 3 sanctioning bodies and Price has nothing close to that so whats the point of the fight?
Because they are the 2 best heavyweights in the Uk right now, all so you do not need to fight as as much as Fury is you have to recall a fighter has to train as well a lot of work is done in the gym learning a fighter can go stale and not improve if he is fighting to much,Please the level Fury is fighting at is not that great ok if you want to learn how to fight in a bar room.
But i will say Tyson has a great heart and is good to watch. But is he world class Let not forget Prices's career before he took of his vet he was fighting the best in the world that counts for a lot.Thereonly one way to ask this question re Fury vs Price let get it on in the next few months.
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Maxsplit wrote:Fury looked a very different fighter to the one vs Firtha.

He was 5lbs lighter then and his jab was VERY impressive. Tonight he looked like he wasn't mentally prepared or ready.

Until he got knocked down he was a shadow of himself.

The adrenaline from that obviously kicked him into action and the stoppage, although a tad premature was sensible - he'd knocked Pajkic down twice in quick succession and a 3rd time on the canvas for the Canadian looked as though it would follow soon after.

I'm guessing the training camp wasn't helped by switching trainers.

Fury must have made some good money now from this CH5 deal, so maybe take a bit of time out and fight again in March and employ Ruben Tabares - David Haye's nutritionist & strength coach and get Emanuel Steward to train him against a good European level opponent :TU:
You've posted my thoughts exactly. He totally neglected his jab for the first couple of rounds, had absolulty no defence and very little game plan. All this chopping and changing of trainers has obvioulsy had an effect and he diesn't seem to know whether he's coming or going. Whilst it's good he's fihgting often, maybe he needs a bit more time to actually bed in a new trainer and work things out. That was the worst Tyson Fury i've seen and I've seen every pro fight.

I don't think his chin is as sturdy as he used to brag, but like Larry Holmes he seems to have very good recuperative powers. I would imagine this will put the ideas of a Povetkin fight to bed for the foreseable future which is no bad thing.

I also think Phil Edwards was looking to do Tyson a favour with the stoppage, as when he was teeing off on Pajic he was still getting tagged by big overhand rights.
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I wonder if Phil Edwards was influenced by the obviously febrile atmosphere generated by the travellers at ringside who proved incapable of behaving themselves.

I bet there are a boatload of fans who paid for ringside seats who won't do so again because they'll have seen f**k all or had to endure their own battles.

The scenes were cringeworthy and at one point it looked like the security had been overrun.
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Fury didn't look right even when he was walking into the ring. In the first round he lloked like he didn't want to be in the ring.
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Fury has massive balls, no doubt, but he has so much to learn.

I think he is going to have a short career, because of his poor technique & preparation.

PS: I thought some of the crowd at the fight were an absolute disgrace. They failed to observe the silence during the 10 count for Joe Frazier. Shameful way to disrespect the memory of one of boxing's finest. :witzend:
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Fury is very entertaining to watch, you just dont know what to expect. All I know is that he's not going to remain undefeated for very much longer. As soon as a big guy hits him on the chin square Fury wont get up. I hope he gets a world title shot before this happens. Great for TV.
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MachoMan09 wrote:Fury is great for TV. I do understand what some of you chaps are moaning about but you've got to remember that most of you are purists who watch a lot of boxing and know, to varying degrees, what you're on about. But when it comes to the general popularity of the sport, you lot are largely irrelevant, you'll watch a couple of no-name flyweights in a drab leisure centre in some crappy town in Yorkshire and not get bored. That's great - for you - but the public aren't interested in that sort of shit; they want short, sharp, hard action and the bigger the blokes involved are the better. Fury is the complete package: big, brash, vulnerable and ballsy. The unsophisticated mob who follow him only add to the atmosphere. The sport needs him to keep getting dropped and keep getting up again, at least until Chris Jr. is knocking on the door of titles.

Hennessey is a promoter, of course he's going to come out with some outlandish statements. Again, he's not addressing you lot, he's addressing the masses who don't know any better.
You make some excellent points TBH.

I don't know the numbers for Channel 5 viewers, but I'm willing to bet that Fury is getting a lot of casual people interested in boxing again.

Having 'A' Chris Eubank on the bill also added to the feeling of nostalgia too; it was like the 1990s all over again, when we could watch boxing on terrestrial TV. :box:
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seen a few of you saying about trouble flaring in the crowd etc , i went with a few lads from nottingham to support a mate on the undercard , Leigh wood (won on points)

I only saw one little scuffle towards the back of the crowd just before Eubank jr bout .

Most annoying thing was every fecker always standing at the front meaning people at the back were standing on seats which security were having to try to stop people doing .

In all honesty dont think there was too much trouble but that the venue is poor , its all floored seating so cant see sod all if people stand unless your right near the front , which luckily i wasnt too far back but far enough for it to be annoying and at times unable to even see the large screens let alone the ring .
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