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Ive been watching Fury from early in his career and must say that Saturday was probably the worst I have seen him, he looked in poor condition and totally unfocused. He obviously has some problems out of the ring which given recent events in his family life is hardly surprising. I still belive that if he is not rushed and he is able to develop and not be derailed by out of the ring events then he can do very well in the future. But he needs to forget all about the Klitchenkos and focus instead on making his move when they are both gone which cant be much more than about 3 to 4 years, by which time Fury will be 27/28 and approaching his prime years.
Do not rush this fella he has far more potential than Price. If Price is so good why has he been fighting the level of opposition he has?..... Fury has been fighting a higher level of opponent from the begining... end of.
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Channel 5 are certainly getting their moneys worth with the big man. They must be delighted. Having said that, the quality of boxing in Fury's fights have been woeful to say the least...... Hagler v Hearns :lol:

I don't think he will reach world level but I sure as hell will be tuning into his next fight.

Some of Fury's fans need to be banned from the arenas though.... I dread to think what will happen when he gets sparked out.
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Horse wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:ok ok i admit he may move up the rankings, that bit was tongue in cheek, but world champion???????? do me a favour.

However, If you mean World champion at bringing the worst fans ever to boxing then yes i agree with you
I think he will pick up a WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO title at some point.
Based on what?
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That's the only way he will :)
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mimmy123 wrote:Fury is very entertaining to watch, you just dont know what to expect.
Agreed. Fury's fights are always good fun. But Tyson is only deluding himself if he thinks he's going to beat a Klitschsko.
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I would also add the the commentary team mentioned repeatedly: "Tyson's incredible boxing ability"...
Is it just me or does anyone else think that he looks unsteady when moving around the ring and he's very clumsy. There aint nothing slick or sophisticated about him.
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He needs to sort his head out and knuckle down, he looked like it was his debut in there
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Crease wrote:I would also add the the commentary team mentioned repeatedly: "Tyson's incredible boxing ability"...
Is it just me or does anyone else think that he looks unsteady when moving around the ring and he's very clumsy. There aint nothing slick or sophisticated about him.
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Yup, agree Crease. All I heard on Saturday, was about Fury's skill, speed and power. He has a good jab, bottle and thats about it.

I don't see speed, skill or power, in him
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fatcity69 wrote:Ive been watching Fury from early in his career and must say that Saturday was probably the worst I have seen him, he looked in poor condition and totally unfocused. He obviously has some problems out of the ring which given recent events in his family life is hardly surprising. I still belive that if he is not rushed and he is able to develop and not be derailed by out of the ring events then he can do very well in the future. But he needs to forget all about the Klitchenkos and focus instead on making his move when they are both gone which cant be much more than about 3 to 4 years, by which time Fury will be 27/28 and approaching his prime years.
Do not rush this fella he has far more potential than Price. If Price is so good why has he been fighting the level of opposition he has?..... Fury has been fighting a higher level of opponent from the begining... end of.
How does he have more potential than Price?
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Fury is out of shape, technically all over the place, poor defensively and could get knocked out by literally anybody, but I'll happily watch him fight until the day he retires. There is something incredibly engaging about him, inside and outside the ring. He's perfect for Channel 5.

Also, on the subject of his chin, was anybody else impressed with how quickly he recovered from that knockdown on Saturday? For a split second he seemed out of it - out for the count. However, after stumbling backwards momentarily, he seemed clear headed and had his wits about him. He shouldn't have been nailed in the first place, but he recovered very well from it, I thought. That bodes well, at least, as there's no doubt he's going to eat a shitload more right hands in his career.
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bengulnaci1 wrote:Yup, agree Crease. All I heard on Saturday, was about Fury's skill, speed and power. He has a good jab, bottle and thats about it.

I don't see speed, skill or power, in him
Cheers mate :TU: I was starting to think it was just me there. I was talking to a mate of mine a week or so ago Fury and he described him as"a good boxer" and I was astonished to hear him say that ( :lol: )

I just replied saying to him: "Mate, if he's anything, he's just a brawler". :TU:
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Agree with you Crease,

Provides entertainment but that's only because he;s got a shit defence and a half-decent chin with ok power (at best)

It's like watching a drunk who's been span around in a pub car park 30 times and then been pushed towards an opponent for a brawl

He fights like he's doing the front crawl without water
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I was reading a copy of the Express on Monday (not mine, and purely through boredom, I hasten to add) and the fight actually got a decent write-up, in terms of space. But sadly it also contained the line "Like namesake Mike, he has a ferocious dig, dynamic enough to become a world champion".

I like Fury, but that's ever so slightly misleading.
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The same rag talks about Vitali Klitschko as if he were a white Julius Francis. Pay no attention.
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Well where do I start when we are talking about Tyson Fury. When you look at him potentially all the ingredients for a very good world level heavyweight at the very least are there, because he has got the height (6ft9) the reach (85 inches) very quick hands and is able to switch very well between the head and the body which is unusual for a heavyweight of his considerable size. He also has considerable heart and balls to go with it.

But I do agree he needs to work alot mroe on his conditioning and and his jab because he really does not throw it with enough conviction, rather than using it as a battering ram and set up his combinations which he can put together quite well and if he works on his conditoning and his jab with a top line trainer, conditioning coach and sports psychologist he will go along way, otherwise he will just become a novelty attraction and Mick Hennessy can get this sorted out I believe he can go a long in the fight game. But we must recognise he is a very young Heavyweight at 23 and has only fought 17 times in the paid rank with only 83 rounds boxed in the paid ranks so he is still a work in place, and he and Hennessy address these issues he will go a long way in this game.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Well where do I start when we are talking about Tyson Fury. When you look at him potentially all the ingredients for a very good world level heavyweight at the very least are there, because he has got the height (6ft9) the reach (85 inches) very quick hands and is able to switch very well between the head and the body which is unusual for a heavyweight of his considerable size. He also has considerable heart and balls to go with it.

But I do agree he needs to work alot mroe on his conditioning and and his jab because he really does not throw it with enough conviction, rather than using it as a battering ram and set up his combinations which he can put together quite well and if he works on his conditoning and his jab with a top line trainer, conditioning coach and sports psychologist he will go along way, otherwise he will just become a novelty attraction and Mick Hennessy can get this sorted out I believe he can go a long in the fight game. But we must recognise he is a very young Heavyweight at 23 and has only fought 17 times in the paid rank with only 83 rounds boxed in the paid ranks so he is still a work in place, and he and Hennessy address these issues he will go a long way in this game.
Spot on :TU:

How long did he work with manny steward for? Someone of that sort wouldn't of had him fighting the way he did at the weekend. Get the jab going and the big right hands over the top come from that I.e lewis
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Karl Jade wrote:The same rag talks about Vitali Klitschko as if he were a white Julius Francis. Pay no attention.
I try not to. It was my Great Aunt's, she likes to get her hate and prejudice going at a price that's 10p cheaper than the Mail.*



* They actually print that on the front page of the Express. Not the hate and prejudice bit, but they actually use '10p cheaper than the Mail' as a selling point. I suppose we all have to tighten our belts these days. Even the xenophobic middle classes of Surrey.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Well where do I start when we are talking about Tyson Fury. When you look at him potentially all the ingredients for a very good world level heavyweight at the very least are there, because he has got the height (6ft9) the reach (85 inches) very quick hands and is able to switch very well between the head and the body which is unusual for a heavyweight of his considerable size. He also has considerable heart and balls to go with it.

But I do agree he needs to work alot mroe on his conditioning and and his jab because he really does not throw it with enough conviction, rather than using it as a battering ram and set up his combinations which he can put together quite well and if he works on his conditoning and his jab with a top line trainer, conditioning coach and sports psychologist he will go along way, otherwise he will just become a novelty attraction and Mick Hennessy can get this sorted out I believe he can go a long in the fight game. But we must recognise he is a very young Heavyweight at 23 and has only fought 17 times in the paid rank with only 83 rounds boxed in the paid ranks so he is still a work in place, and he and Hennessy address these issues he will go a long way in this game.
One thing, Langers, is that I think his handspeed and combinations, whilst quite impressive, are also a product of the fact that he doesn't commit properly to his shots. He should take his time, use a jab and deliver shots that count, rather than a flurry of 'aaaaarm shots', as Jim Watt would say.
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FtmPress wrote:
exittored wrote:
FtmPress wrote: Because they are the 2 best heavyweights in the Uk right now, all so you do not need to fight as as much as Fury is you have to recall a fighter has to train as well a lot of work is done in the gym learning a fighter can go stale and not improve if he is fighting to much,Please the level Fury is fighting at is not that great ok if you want to learn how to fight in a bar room.
But i will say Tyson has a great heart and is good to watch. But is he world class Let not forget Prices's career before he took of his vet he was fighting the best in the world that counts for a lot.Thereonly one way to ask this question re Fury vs Price let get it on in the next few months.
That's all well and good Frank but maybe you should have moved Price much quicker from the start of his career rather then match him with a host of Euro/American bums and one of your own too. Fury beat Mcdermott in his 7th Pro fight after a year of boxing and then beat him properly again a few fights later and has now gone on to even higher competition wheras Price simply hasn't done enough so far in his professional career to warrant a fight with him or is even that well known by the British public.

Yes the sharks are circling Fury now that they see blood in the same way everyone will want to fight Pacquiao now but the next time you see Tyson fight will be at Madison square gardens in March and it's more likely he'll be facing my guy Amir Hardcore Mansour then your guy David Price.
Name any one that Fury has boxed that is a class oppent. or of a high standard. And unless you are blind Fury never won the first fight with big John he got a gift from a very poor ref.
FTM. are you calling John McDermott not a class opponent or of a high Standard. I bet he is going to be p**sed if he see's your comments!!!!!
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states wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:Well where do I start when we are talking about Tyson Fury. When you look at him potentially all the ingredients for a very good world level heavyweight at the very least are there, because he has got the height (6ft9) the reach (85 inches) very quick hands and is able to switch very well between the head and the body which is unusual for a heavyweight of his considerable size. He also has considerable heart and balls to go with it.

But I do agree he needs to work alot mroe on his conditioning and and his jab because he really does not throw it with enough conviction, rather than using it as a battering ram and set up his combinations which he can put together quite well and if he works on his conditoning and his jab with a top line trainer, conditioning coach and sports psychologist he will go along way, otherwise he will just become a novelty attraction and Mick Hennessy can get this sorted out I believe he can go a long in the fight game. But we must recognise he is a very young Heavyweight at 23 and has only fought 17 times in the paid rank with only 83 rounds boxed in the paid ranks so he is still a work in place, and he and Hennessy address these issues he will go a long way in this game.
One thing, Langers, is that I think his handspeed and combinations, whilst quite impressive, are also a product of the fact that he doesn't commit properly to his shots. He should take his time, use a jab and deliver shots that count, rather than a flurry of 'aaaaarm shots', as Jim Watt would say.
So you think that Tyson Fury is using his handspeed to try and outwork his opponents which will look more favourable in the judges rather throwing 3-4 punch combinations with plenty of spice on them.
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states wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:Well where do I start when we are talking about Tyson Fury. When you look at him potentially all the ingredients for a very good world level heavyweight at the very least are there, because he has got the height (6ft9) the reach (85 inches) very quick hands and is able to switch very well between the head and the body which is unusual for a heavyweight of his considerable size. He also has considerable heart and balls to go with it.

But I do agree he needs to work alot mroe on his conditioning and and his jab because he really does not throw it with enough conviction, rather than using it as a battering ram and set up his combinations which he can put together quite well and if he works on his conditoning and his jab with a top line trainer, conditioning coach and sports psychologist he will go along way, otherwise he will just become a novelty attraction and Mick Hennessy can get this sorted out I believe he can go a long in the fight game. But we must recognise he is a very young Heavyweight at 23 and has only fought 17 times in the paid rank with only 83 rounds boxed in the paid ranks so he is still a work in place, and he and Hennessy address these issues he will go a long way in this game.
One thing, Langers, is that I think his handspeed and combinations, whilst quite impressive, are also a product of the fact that he doesn't commit properly to his shots. He should take his time, use a jab and deliver shots that count, rather than a flurry of 'aaaaarm shots', as Jim Watt would say.
that's 'arrrrum puncheees', I think. it's been a while since i did my GCSE in scottish.
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