What were Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s 6 amateur losses?

[The_Real_Deal]

He didnt lose to augie twice~

[locoxelbox]

He lost to Arnulfo Bravo at the 1994 US Jr Championships at 51 kg thus missed the World Juniors of that year.

[locoxelbox]

Yeah, and I think his loss to Carlos Navarro was a box-off for the Panams.

[Interviewer]

he didnt lose any early fights in michigan, like when he was 11 or 12? they count tho right??!!

[ramosboxingDOTcom]

I think he lost to Eric Morel too. I remember both of them (Eric & Floyd) talking about it during the 95 World Championships in Berlin.

And you're correct. Carlos Navarro did beat Floyd in the Pan Am Trials. Not sure if you guys remember but that weight class was so full Carlos had to win 2 more bouts than everyone else to make the Pan Am team. That fights for that weight class started 2 days before all of the others.

[crusader]

I think most amateur records are wrong. They tend to be announced as better than they are. Rigondeux is always listed as 243-4, but I remember he admitted to another poster on here (I think locoxelbox) that he had at least 12 losses.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

I think most amateur records are wrong. They tend to be announced as better than they are. Rigondeux is always listed as 243-4, but I remember he admitted to another poster on here (I think locoxelbox) that he had at least 12 losses.

243-4 or 243-12. The bottom line is a lot of wins and not a lot of losses. Sometimes if you don't have a lot of losses, you haven't faced great competition. Sometimes. Rigo is definitely not the case. It's amazing that USA Boxing doesn't try to do a better job of recording records. I know things are hurting right now, but to me that's a part of history that would be interesting to have access to.

[Martin O'Malley]

I know 5 of them...

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1995 World Amateur Boxing Championships
Lost to Nouredine Medjihoud (Pro: 0-3)

1996 USA Olympic Trials
Lost to Augie Sanchez (Pro: 28-3)

1996 Summer Olympics
Lost to Serafim Todorov (Pro: 5-1)

Lost to Martin Castillo (Pro: 35-3)

Lost to Carlos Navarro (Pro: 27-6-1)
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I have heard that he might have lost to Sanchez twice, but I haven't found anything definitive on it.

[Martin O'Malley]

The one that ya have left out is Flyod's loss by disqualifation for excessive holding to Pheotis Upshaw. This was in the 14-15year old age group in the national P.A.L. championships I am pretty sure at 100lbs in I think 1992. I know for a fact that he lost to pheotis Upshaw!

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1995 World Amateur Boxing Championships
Lost to Nouredine Medjihoud (Pro: 0-3)

1996 USA Olympic Trials
Lost to Augie Sanchez (Pro: 28-3)

1996 Summer Olympics
Lost to Serafim Todorov (Pro: 5-1)

Lost to Martin Castillo (Pro: 35-3)

Lost to Carlos Navarro (Pro: 27-6-1)
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I have heard that he might have lost to Sanchez twice, but I haven't found anything definitive on it.

[locoxelbox]

That would make it seven then. And he probably has other losses in his early career. He does also have a medical Walk Over loss to Tigran Ouzlian, Greece at a tournament in Russia in 1995 but that don´t count for his record. Wonder what happened to Mayweather, why he couldn´t fight.

[JMac]

Or do amateurs sometimes have random fights on weekends and such?

Sure, that's where most of their bouts come from until they get really good and it becomes hard to get fights on the local level.

[selcuk]

I agree. He lost to Arnulfo Bravo at the 1994 US Jr Championships at 51 kg.24hr-printer-cartridges.com

[boxmel]

It's amazing that USA Boxing doesn't try to do a better job of recording records. I know things are hurting right now, but to me that's a part of history that would be interesting to have access to.

In order to have a totally accurate record, USA Boxing would have to keep track of every registered boxer's wins and losses from the time they start competing in local shows. Honestly, I don't think that's important enough for paid USAB staff to spend time and energy on - there are consistently over 20,000 registered boxers - keeping up with all of them would be a nightmare. It would make more sense for each LBC to keep track of their own boxers (if anyone has time there, too). Just my opinion. 8)

[UntilTheNextRound72]

It's amazing that USA Boxing doesn't try to do a better job of recording records. I know things are hurting right now, but to me that's a part of history that would be interesting to have access to.

In order to have a totally accurate record, USA Boxing would have to keep track of every registered boxer's wins and losses from the time they start competing in local shows. Honestly, I don't think that's important enough for paid USAB staff to spend time and energy on - there are consistently over 20,000 registered boxers - keeping up with all of them would be a nightmare. It would make more sense for each LBC to keep track of their own boxers (if anyone has time there, too). Just my opinion. 8)

I agree with DC but BoxMel is right. The assigned Timekeeper should record on the bout sheets and submit to the President or Sec of the LBC. It should be documented. Buy the passbook is key at times due to the regional or national events. But LBCs should start keep track of the stats and than submit to USA Boxing and let them get it right

[boxmel]

But LBCs should start keep track of the stats and than submit to USA Boxing and let them get it right

But why do you think USAB should keep track of every boxer in the US? It would still take many man hours to input all that information when there isn't any money for our athletes and the staff is at bare bones. And can you imagine the time it would take to answer any queries about amateur boxer's records? USAB would be totally overloaded and there are many more important things to do. Just my opinion.

[UntilTheNextRound72]

But LBCs should start keep track of the stats and than submit to USA Boxing and let them get it right

But why do you think USAB should keep track of every boxer in the US? It would still take many man hours to input all that information when there isn't any money for our athletes and the staff is at bare bones. And can you imagine the time it would take to answer any queries about amateur boxer's records? USAB would be totally overloaded and there are many more important things to do. Just my opinion.

History! Preservation! I'm not saying every sub novice boxer in the US should be counted but also why not? Granted we don't wanna over load USA boxing because they have so much more on their plate to worry about (cough cough) but LBCs should take the lead and recording better records of their members.

[Jma05]

Im pretty sure he had more then 6 loses. So your gonna tell me he never lost in his state championships or anything??? Come on now. I hate when people lie about there records, you hear fighters all the time say i was 105-7, or 115-5 as an amtuer. No you were not, just tell the truth!!!!!

[dbf]

If Andre Ward hasn't lost since he was 12 years old that is one hell of an amateur record, culminating in an olympic gold.

In England you can box competitively from the age of 11, not sure what the age is in the states, but still - undefeated since you were 12, thats some going.

[scallum]

Did Floyd ever win or participate in The Silver Gloves?

[donnellon]

In Ireland a good amature might have a 80-35 record, at local level you if are very good, you get matched up a weight/year or even both to keep you improving and then throw in a few home town decisions.............

[locoxelbox]

Any update on Floyd´s amateur record? Boxrec lists him at 38-6, counting a walk over loss which really shouldn´t count.
Other losses are to Pheotis Upshaw, Arnulfo Bravo and (according to Mexican media at least) Juan Carlos "El Ranchero" Ramirez. That would make it 8, seven of them within the last two years of his amateur career.

[Bob]

Below is what I have to date:

Floyd Mayweather

born: Floyd Joy Sinclair

1987

Nov. 21 Clay Holden W 3 Owosso

1992

Pheotis Upshaw LDq National PAL

1993

Mar (MI) Michigan Golden Gloves - 106 lb.
May 11 Salvador Casillas W 3 Little Rock National Golden Gloves 1st round
May 12 Domenic Filane W 3 Little Rock National Golden Gloves 2nd round
May 13 Willie Senn W 3 Little Rock National Golden Gloves quarterfinals
May 14 Juan Anzures W 3 Little Rock National Golden Gloves semifinals
May 15 Eric Morel W 3 Little Rock National Golden Gloves finals - 106 lb.
Jul 3 Sean Johnson W 3 Indianapolis Indiana Black Expo
Jul 4 Kelly Wright W 3 Indianapolis Indiana Black Expo

1994

(MI) Michigan Golden Gloves - 112 lb.
Apr 19 Isidro Garcia W 3 Milwaukee National Golden Gloves 1st round
Apr 20 Julian Stevens W 3 Milwaukee National Golden Gloves 2nd round
Apr 21 Juan Anzures W 3 Milwaukee National Golden Gloves quarterfinals
Apr 22 Nick Molinari W 3 Milwaukee National Golden Gloves semifinals
Apr 23 Linton Nichols W 3 Milwaukee National Golden Gloves finals - 112 lb.
Jun Nick Molinari W 3 Marquette, MI U.S. Junior Championships
Jun Arnulfo Bravo L 3 Marquette, MI U.S. Junior Championships quarters.
Jul 2 Jerome McIntyre W 3 St. Louis U.S. Olympic Festival semifinals
Jul 5 Mario Bueno W 3 St. Louis U.S. Olympic Festival finals - 118 lb.
Nov 19 Martin Castillo L 3 Las Vegas USA vs. Mexico

1995

Jan 18 Carlos Navarro L 3 Portland, OR Pan-Am Games Trials
Apr 4 Jesse Byers W 3 Colorado Springs U.S. Championships 1st round
Apr 5 Raul Basulto W 3 Colorado Springs U.S. Championships quarterfinals
Apr 6 Augie Sanchez W 3 Colorado Springs U.S. Championships semifinals
Apr 7 James Baker w/o Colorado Springs U.S. Championships finals - 125lb.
May Juan Carlos Ramirez L 3 Fort Huachuca USA vs. Mexico (???)
May 8 Marian Leondraliu W 3 Berlin World Amateur Championships
May 9 Nouredine Medjihoud L 3 Berlin World Amateur Championships
Sep 30 Terrance Churchwell W 5 Nashville
Oct Tigran Ouzlian L w/o Moscow Century Tournament
Oct 29 Ernest Rodriguez W 3 Dallas National PAL Champs. 1st round
Oct 31 Shavonn Price RSC-1 Dallas National PAL Champs. 2nd round
Nov 1 Gilbert Elizondo RSC-3 Dallas National PAL Champs. quarterfinals
Nov 2 Carlos Navarro W 3 Dallas National PAL Champs. semifinals
Nov 3 Carmello Ramos W 3 Dallas National PAL Champs. finals - 125 lb.
Nov 10 James Baker W 3 Milwaukee American Boxing Classic semifinals
Nov 11 Mark Partner W 3 Milwaukee American Boxing Classic finals



1996

(MI) Michigan Golden Gloves - 125 lb.
Mar 19 Jose Hernandez W 3 Cleveland National Golden Gloves 1st round
Mar 20 Hector Cruz W 3 Cleveland National Golden Gloves 2nd round
Mar 21 Chad Jaquillard W 3 Cleveland National Golden Gloves quarterfinals
Mar 22 Adriel Pebenito W 3 Cleveland National Golden Gloves semifinals
Mar 23 Martin O'Malley W 3 Cleveland National Golden Gloves finals - 125 lb.
Apr 3 William Jenkins RSC-3 Oakland U.S. Olympic Trials
Apr 4 James Baker RSCH-1 Oakland U.S. Olympic Trials
Apr 5 Augie Sanchez L 3 Oakland U.S. Olympic Trials
Apr 7 Carlos Navarro W 3 Oakland U.S. Olympic Challenge Match
Apr 19 Augie Sanchez W 3 Augusta U.S. Olympic Box-Offs
Apr 20 Augie Sanchez W 3 Augusta U.S. Olympic Box-Offs
May 17 Michael Hammer W 3 Portland USA vs. Germany
Jun 17 Viacheslav Smirnov RSC-3 Coconut Grove USA vs. Russia
Jul 22 Bakhtiyar Tileganov RSCI-2 Atlanta Olympic Games 1st round
Jul 27 Artur Gevorkian W 3 Atlanta Olympic Games quarterfinals
Jul 31 Lorenzo Aragon W 3 Atlanta Olympic Games semifinals
Aug 2 Serafim Todorov L 3 Atlanta Olympic Games finals 126 lb.

[locoxelbox]

Thanks Bob
That would make it 43-8 for now, still very little on his formative years. Maybe he didn´t attend many tournaments.