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Marvis Frazier.
Marvis Frazier.
Does anyone know the amateur record of Marvis Frazier? I've read that it was 56-2 with one of the loses coming to James Broad.
Does anyone have anymore information?
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Does anyone have anymore information?
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Max Molyneux
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He split a pair of bouts with Tony Tubbs. The Tubbs lost was his first, Broad his second and last.
Broad stopped him with a tap to the top of the head. See,s Marvis had a nerve in his neck that was pinched, and caused a sort of paralysis.
Frazier had the nerve operated on, and you can see the scar on the back of his neck in some videos.
He beat Mitch Green on Jun 16, 1980 in Atlanta, in the quarter finals of the Olympic trials. His loss to Broad was in the semi-finals on Jun 19. Time 21 seconds.
Broad stopped him with a tap to the top of the head. See,s Marvis had a nerve in his neck that was pinched, and caused a sort of paralysis.
Frazier had the nerve operated on, and you can see the scar on the back of his neck in some videos.
He beat Mitch Green on Jun 16, 1980 in Atlanta, in the quarter finals of the Olympic trials. His loss to Broad was in the semi-finals on Jun 19. Time 21 seconds.
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Hesketh Vampire
- Heavyweight
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Updated Frazier amateur record
1977
--- Opponent --- Win Debut
--- Opponent --- Win
Mar 2 Opponent Philadelphia, PA Win 3d bout
Mar 10 John Owens Philadelphia, PA W 3
Mar 26 Jarrett Smith Palestra, Philadelphia, PA KO 1
(Won PA State GG, sub novice at heavy)
1978
Mar 6 Ed Bednarik Pittsburgh, PA W 3
(Won PA State GG, open div., voted Outstanding Boxer of Tourn.
Frazier's record 9-0 at this point)
Aug 5 Opponent Indianapolis, IN KO 2
(12th win, 6th kayo)
1979
Feb 9 Tim Witherspoon Blue Horizon, Philadelphia, PA W 3
(Witherspoon down in 1st round)
Mar 4 James Smith 69th St Forum, Philadelphia, PA W 3
(wins Phila. Golden Gloves)
Mar 16 Jimmy Clark Liberty Bell Park, Philadelphia, PA W 3
(wins Pa. Eastern Regional title)
Mar 22 Ed Bednarik Palestra, Philadelphia, PA TKO 2
(Won PA State GG title, heavy open)
Mar 28 Charles Archie Indianapolis, IN KO 1
Mar 29 Bryon Westmoreland Indianapolis, IN W 3
Mar 30 Walter Ware Indianapolis, IN win
Mar 31 William Hosea Indianapolis, IN W 3
Mar 31 Philip Brown Indianapolis, IN W 3
(Won National Golden Gloves title)
May 18 Tony Tubbs Atlantic City, NJ W 3
(31st consec. win)
Oct 3 Jerome Boyd Clarion State, PA Sched
--- Opponent Yokohama, Japan win
Dec 16 Olaf Mayer (AUT) Yokohama, Japan KO 2
(Won World Championship Juniors (under 19), Heavyweight)
1980
Feb 2 Tony Tubbs Houston, TX L 3
(First loss after 44 wins)
May 11 Chris McDonald Las Vegas, NV W 3
(Won United States AAU Championship)
Jun 16 Mitch Green Atlanta, GA W 3 (USA Olympic Trials, QF)
Jun 19 James Broad Atlanta, GA L KO 1 (USA Olympic Trials, semi; 2d loss in 58 fights, final record 56-2)
--- Opponent --- Win Debut
--- Opponent --- Win
Mar 2 Opponent Philadelphia, PA Win 3d bout
Mar 10 John Owens Philadelphia, PA W 3
Mar 26 Jarrett Smith Palestra, Philadelphia, PA KO 1
(Won PA State GG, sub novice at heavy)
1978
Mar 6 Ed Bednarik Pittsburgh, PA W 3
(Won PA State GG, open div., voted Outstanding Boxer of Tourn.
Frazier's record 9-0 at this point)
Aug 5 Opponent Indianapolis, IN KO 2
(12th win, 6th kayo)
1979
Feb 9 Tim Witherspoon Blue Horizon, Philadelphia, PA W 3
(Witherspoon down in 1st round)
Mar 4 James Smith 69th St Forum, Philadelphia, PA W 3
(wins Phila. Golden Gloves)
Mar 16 Jimmy Clark Liberty Bell Park, Philadelphia, PA W 3
(wins Pa. Eastern Regional title)
Mar 22 Ed Bednarik Palestra, Philadelphia, PA TKO 2
(Won PA State GG title, heavy open)
Mar 28 Charles Archie Indianapolis, IN KO 1
Mar 29 Bryon Westmoreland Indianapolis, IN W 3
Mar 30 Walter Ware Indianapolis, IN win
Mar 31 William Hosea Indianapolis, IN W 3
Mar 31 Philip Brown Indianapolis, IN W 3
(Won National Golden Gloves title)
May 18 Tony Tubbs Atlantic City, NJ W 3
(31st consec. win)
Oct 3 Jerome Boyd Clarion State, PA Sched
--- Opponent Yokohama, Japan win
Dec 16 Olaf Mayer (AUT) Yokohama, Japan KO 2
(Won World Championship Juniors (under 19), Heavyweight)
1980
Feb 2 Tony Tubbs Houston, TX L 3
(First loss after 44 wins)
May 11 Chris McDonald Las Vegas, NV W 3
(Won United States AAU Championship)
Jun 16 Mitch Green Atlanta, GA W 3 (USA Olympic Trials, QF)
Jun 19 James Broad Atlanta, GA L KO 1 (USA Olympic Trials, semi; 2d loss in 58 fights, final record 56-2)
Last edited by delisa on 27 Jun 2005, 11:59, edited 2 times in total.
1980 oly finals
Broad beat Chris McDonald (Frazier had prevviously beaten McDonald) in the Oly trial finals.
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Hesketh Vampire
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Hesketh Vampire
- Heavyweight
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Just doing some more calculations and in fact Joe must have been either 15 or just turned 16 when Marvis was conceived - the lad!KOJOE90 wrote:I've heard that Smokin' Joe has always been a bit of a ladies man.Hesketh wrote:Interestingly by my calculations Smokin Joe was only 16 when Marvis was born - he wasn't hanging about there. Smokin!
Re: Updated Frazier amateur record
In Yokohamadelisa wrote: --- Opponent Yokohama, Japan win
Dec 16 Olaf Mayer (AUT) Yokohama, Japan KO 2
(Won World Championship Juniors (under 19), Heavyweight)
Quarter-Final
Marvis Frazier USA beat Daniel Goguen CAN KO 2
Semifinal
Marvis Frazier USA beat Alexander Yagubkin URS 5:0
In his bio Frazier bites back at all the critics who said he mismanaged his son as a pro.
Frazier asks them all to show him another heavyweight of that era, outside of Tyson, who made more than 2 million dollars for their first 21 fights.
After Tyson, Marvis was the best paid heavyweight around in the mid 1980s. He was earning more per fight than the alphabet champs in their title fights (remember Tim Witherspoon bringing home 83.000 dollars after KO'ing Frank Bruno in London in '85?)
Mis-matched maybe, not mis-managed.
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Frazier asks them all to show him another heavyweight of that era, outside of Tyson, who made more than 2 million dollars for their first 21 fights.
After Tyson, Marvis was the best paid heavyweight around in the mid 1980s. He was earning more per fight than the alphabet champs in their title fights (remember Tim Witherspoon bringing home 83.000 dollars after KO'ing Frank Bruno in London in '85?)
Mis-matched maybe, not mis-managed.
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
- Heavyweight
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Yes, Witherspoon blew all his money. Later, in 1991 I think it was, he won a 1 million+ dollar lawsuit over King for the earnings he was stiffed out of in the 80s. Guess what? Ol Tim blew that too in record time.
I remember a journalist went to interview Witherspoon in his home in the mid 1990s. Witherspoon's phone had then been cut off for months because he couldn't afford to pay the bill. In even harder times his electricity had also been cut.
Luckily I understand Tim is doing better finacially these days, enjoying success as a trainer for several ranked fighters.
What's sad is that nearly all those champs from the 80s have to scrape to make a living. Tony Tubbs lives with his mother and still has to take fights for a payday. Greg Page was pretty bad set finacially even before his tragedy. I can only assume he is even worse off now after all those medical bills. Trevor Berbick is poor. Carl Williams works or at least worked as a security guard at Ground Zero.
Tony Tucker and Pinklon Thomas are OK, so is Tyson as long as his name has some value. But a troubling number of ex-chams and contenders are poor. Worst off may be Iran Barkley, who lives with his mother in a cramped appartment in Bronx, NY.
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I remember a journalist went to interview Witherspoon in his home in the mid 1990s. Witherspoon's phone had then been cut off for months because he couldn't afford to pay the bill. In even harder times his electricity had also been cut.
Luckily I understand Tim is doing better finacially these days, enjoying success as a trainer for several ranked fighters.
What's sad is that nearly all those champs from the 80s have to scrape to make a living. Tony Tubbs lives with his mother and still has to take fights for a payday. Greg Page was pretty bad set finacially even before his tragedy. I can only assume he is even worse off now after all those medical bills. Trevor Berbick is poor. Carl Williams works or at least worked as a security guard at Ground Zero.
Tony Tucker and Pinklon Thomas are OK, so is Tyson as long as his name has some value. But a troubling number of ex-chams and contenders are poor. Worst off may be Iran Barkley, who lives with his mother in a cramped appartment in Bronx, NY.
-KOKid-
Was his win over Green unanimous or split?delisa wrote:He split a pair of bouts with Tony Tubbs. The Tubbs lost was his first, Broad his second and last.
Broad stopped him with a tap to the top of the head. See,s Marvis had a nerve in his neck that was pinched, and caused a sort of paralysis.
Frazier had the nerve operated on, and you can see the scar on the back of his neck in some videos.
He beat Mitch Green on Jun 16, 1980 in Atlanta, in the quarter finals of the Olympic trials. His loss to Broad was in the semi-finals on Jun 19. Time 21 seconds.