Chisora pushes it at weigh in

[gasman]

So, you have turned this into 'who wins Chisora or Ali". I give up

[loaded_gloves]

You brought the Ali/Liston fight into the equation fella.

[The_Don1]

fornicate Ali Liston, we are talking Chisora and this guy has the bit between his teeth again and he will beat the crap out of that greasy rocker helenius tomorrow night, trust me

[crusader]

With reference to each man's attributes and style, why do you think that will be the case?

[nobby_nobbins]

Chisora is lighter than he was for the Sexton fights and in both of those he fought with a high workrate and had the stamina to force a stoppage in the later rounds. 243 is actually one of his lightest weights since he turned professional. He is also closer to 6'2" than 6'1".

[HeavyHitters]

I know looks can sometimes be deceiving, but after watching the weigh-in, all four of these heavyweights ( Pov, Boz, Chi, Hel ) look flabby and not in 100% top condition. It goes to show you, even though they are in the top 25, the heavyweights of today are not 100% serious about their craft. So why should we be 100% dedicated to watching them fight?


It is sad.....

[HeavyHitters]

If most of his 243 was in his legs he'd look deformed.

Why people defend fat heavies I just do not understand.

I agree. Get in shape, or get out of boxing.

[loaded_gloves]

I know looks can sometimes be deceiving, but after watching the weigh-in, all four of these heavyweights ( Pov, Boz, Chi, Hel ) look flabby and not in 100% top condition. It goes to show you, even though they are in the top 25, the heavyweights of today are not 100% serious about their craft. So why should we be 100% dedicated to watching them fight?

So true.

Modern heavyweights for some reason think they must be around 240. There is no way they can be as good and sharp as they could be when they are lugging around this additional weight. It just shows a genuine lack of drive across the division. Barring the Klit brothers who have weight lifters bodies, virtually all the 'contenders' look soft & podgy. I can't think of one in peak physical condition.

[Syntax Error]

My God our standards have dropped for what qualifies as 'in shape'. He's 6'1'' and TWO HUNDRED & FORTY THREE POUNDS.

How is that in shape?

He weighs more than the giant (and always fleshy) Robert Helenius!

At his size the man would have to be around 220lb or less to be considered absolutely fighting fit.

Helenius to win via another crushing kayo. Bye fat boy.

100% agree.

Chisora might not be weighing the same as a Brontosaurus right now, but he's still way over weight.

He could easily lose another 15lbs IMO.

Helenius will win on points.

[Syntax Error]

Chisora is lighter than he was for the Sexton fights and in both of those he fought with a high workrate and had the stamina to force a stoppage in the later rounds. 243 is actually one of his lightest weights since he turned professional. He is also closer to 6'2" than 6'1".

6'1" or 6'1.5" or 6'2", 243lbs is still over weight.

Chisora is lazy & he might get away with weighing that much now, but once the competition level increases, he will suffer coming so heavy for an HW that isn't the tallest.

[Syntax Error]

He looks like a man carrying lots of excess weight in both pics.

The reason for that is, he is carrying excess weight at either 243 or 260.

One things evident - that weight is not 'in his legs'.

It's his contribution to the man boob industry.

[ValleysGav]

the lightest chisora has weighed in as a pro was 17st 2lb.he weighed in 17st 3lb in his last fight a few weeks ago.cant judge chisora on fighting under 17st because hes never done it.his weight is similar to KO wins over carl baker,danny williams and sexton.i think his weight in this fight is a good weight for chisora.im not saying he'll win the fight but he has every chance.

[baulks]

He'll need to get busy. These flurries that he relies on as seen in the later rounds against Sexton and Fury will be ineffective against a tall guy like Helenius.

Body Shots are the key for Chisora in this one, if he doesn't go there, he'll lose big time.

[Chambers2]

COME ON DEL BOY!!! Send his hair style back to the 70's where it belongs

Tough fight for Del Boy, but he looks in decent shape and he's fired up. Really looking forward to this one. I hope Del Boy conducts himself in the ring like he did at the weigh-in, get busy, get in his face and ruffle his feathers

Get your Warface on Derek

[gasman]

Atlas and Hrunov:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/atlas- ... evelopment

Boswell:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/boswel ... unexpected

Helenius:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/heleni ... er-he-ring

[LeedsLad]

My God our standards have dropped for what qualifies as 'in shape'. He's 6'1'' and TWO HUNDRED & FORTY THREE POUNDS.

How is that in shape?

He weighs more than the giant (and always fleshy) Robert Helenius!

At his size the man would have to be around 220lb or less to be considered absolutely fighting fit.

Helenius to win via another crushing kayo. Bye fat boy.

Agreed, there's no reason why he can't be in the 220-230 range.

He is quite broad, broader than Haye for example, whilst being a little bit shorter, so ought to be a similar weight, perhaps slightly heavier.

The extra weight doesn't make him a better fighter, he becomes flat footed and runs out of gas quicker. Haye didn't eat up to 240lbs to fight Valuev, if he had he might have been stopped on his feet in the late rounds.

[loaded_gloves]

The extra weight doesn't make him a better fighter, he becomes flat footed and runs out of gas quicker. Haye didn't eat up to 240lbs to fight Valuev, if he had he might have been stopped on his feet in the late rounds.

Yep. The extra weight doesn't make for better fighters and it certainly hasn't made for a better heavyweight division this past decade. These big-biceped, fat-bellied beasts make for mostly dire fights.

People using his 17 stone weight for his wins over Williams, Baker, Sexton et al seem to be missing the point that these fights were not at world level.

You'd like to think with the field overun by such fatties that one special, stand out heavy would work himself into phenomenal peak condition and harpoon these whales but instead they all seem to be slackers, all content to come in one to two stone overweight 'for strength'.

[steve689]

Atlas and Hrunov:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/atlas- ... evelopment

Boswell:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/boswel ... unexpected

Helenius:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/heleni ... er-he-ring

Great job B. Enjoy the fight old chap.

[gasman]

Cheers Steve - talk to you soon mate.

[LeedsLad]

Agreed LG.

If I was the manager of a cruiserweight with heavy hands I'd be licking my lips at the prospect of moving up and fighting some of these clowns. Some fighters ranked by the alphabets wouldn't have been in the top 100 fifteen years ago.

Such a shame that Haye didn't really have the desire to match his smack talk.

[reggaereggae]

Chisora looks in much better shape than last time. HElenius is a funny one - he looks like a shy IT nerd, especially with his hair long. You know the kind of guy who likes Heavy Metal and spends hours on the internet chatting and whacking off to 'Alt' girls

[Syntax Error]

The extra weight doesn't make him a better fighter, he becomes flat footed and runs out of gas quicker. Haye didn't eat up to 240lbs to fight Valuev, if he had he might have been stopped on his feet in the late rounds.

Yep. The extra weight doesn't make for better fighters and it certainly hasn't made for a better heavyweight division this past decade. These big-biceped, fat-bellied beasts make for mostly dire fights.

People using his 17 stone weight for his wins over Williams, Baker, Sexton et al seem to be missing the point that these fights were not at world level.

You'd like to think with the field overun by such fatties that one special, stand out heavy would work himself into phenomenal peak condition and harpoon these whales but instead they all seem to be slackers, all content to come in one to two stone overweight 'for strength'.

It could be said that your last paragraph could have related to David Haye once, but it seems as if the '£' is his main motivation. :(

Saying that, at least he can be bothered to get into shape & I'd tip him to slaughter the likes of a fat Chisora, even if Dereck is supposedly 'good' at 240lbs.

[LeedsLad]

If Chisora lasted three rounds with Haye I'd be both impressed and surprised.

Realistically a plodding guy with no height/reach advantage is tailor made for David.

[m1kee50]

He was 244 for Sexton and as far as I recall set a good pace... If he gasses tonight then the 'overweight' case is that much stronger, if he throws a decent amount of shots and moves well for twelve rounds (I freudianly wrote 'two' there as it happens) then it's not so clear. To get off the fence, I do think he could stand to take a few pounds off.

[loaded_gloves]

But Sexton himself is similarly soft, around 17 stone and is also not world class so does that really mean anything?

When Smokin' Joe died the highlights on the news were so incredible I rewatched all my tapes of the Great Man. Now THAT is a pace. That is intensity. Those 70s fights make Tyson Fury, Sam Sexton and Dereck Chisora look like obese pub-drunks battling under water.