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dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 08 Aug 2005, 13:50

Yeah, you and Jaclem can race to answer it first.

The champ is not a heavyweight but not a flyweight either. Let's see if you can come up with it. :)

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 08 Aug 2005, 17:02

Where did the flashing red lights you usually see these days in each corner of the ring originate from? :P

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 08 Aug 2005, 17:06

Manos de Oro wrote:Where did the flashing red lights you usually see these days in each corner of the ring originate from? :P

From the sulphur mines of Lower Slobovia?

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 08 Aug 2005, 17:33

BoxBuzz wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:Where did the flashing red lights you usually see these days in each corner of the ring originate from? :P
From the sulphur mines of Lower Slobovia?

Close...

Okay, not really.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 08 Aug 2005, 18:01

Manos de Oro wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:Where did the flashing red lights you usually see these days in each corner of the ring originate from? :P
From the sulphur mines of Lower Slobovia?
Close...

Wow! And I was totaly bluffing!

Okay, not really.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 08 Aug 2005, 18:07

Ok by "where did they come from" I take it you do not mean where are they manufactured or from what raw materials are they forged, but why are they there? what purpose do they serve? when did this begin?

Do I understand the question this time? I was focusing on the raw materials aspect as you can tell.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 09 Aug 2005, 01:22

..i don't know if this was the origin...but when eugene hairston was a middleweight contender he was deaf (well, he was deaf before and after he was a contender, dammit, but you know what i mean) and couldn't hear the bell ending the round...so lights were put on the ring corners as his signal. the fighters were, in a gesture of sportsmanship...supposed to step back when the bell rang as an additonal aid if the referee wasn't right there to step betwen them.. one fighter...I wish i could remember who...stepped back and gestured as if the bell had rung and hairston dropped his hands and and started to turn. alas, the opponent was not a kindly fellow and his body language was a trick..the bell hadn't actually rung...and he clouted hairston with a nasty blow...and the crowd got even nastier and he was lucky not to get lynched.

as i recall, hairston went on to win the fight.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 09 Aug 2005, 05:30

Jaclem wrote:..i don't know if this was the origin...but when eugene hairston was a middleweight contender he was deaf (well, he was deaf before and after he was a contender, dammit, but you know what i mean) and couldn't hear the bell ending the round...so lights were put on the ring corners as his signal. the fighters were, in a gesture of sportsmanship...supposed to step back when the bell rang as an additonal aid if the referee wasn't right there to step betwen them.. one fighter...I wish i could remember who...stepped back and gestured as if the bell had rung and hairston dropped his hands and and started to turn. alas, the opponent was not a kindly fellow and his body language was a trick..the bell hadn't actually rung...and he clouted hairston with a nasty blow...and the crowd got even nastier and he was lucky not to get lynched.

as i recall, hairston went on to win the fight.

Yep, that's right. Apparently NY was the first place to take these measures (to accomodate Eugene) and other places tagged along - though Vegas seems to abandon them for the most part these days.

Thanks for the story on Hairston - one tough cookie. I've got his draw with LaMotta on tape and he hangs tough despite looking a bit unsettled at Jake's early onslaught. He stands in the pocket the whole way through, and picks off Jake with some quality shots whenever Jake feels like napping. Good fight.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 09 Aug 2005, 06:57

Good one, thanks Manos, please forgive my humor, can't seem to help myself. I figured some of the generalities on this one but could not come up with specifics. Actually my best guess was it had to do with general ability to hear the bell in crowded situations not a specific fighters need.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 15 Aug 2005, 00:58

dnaharharhar....it looks as if everyone is ignoring your loser-till-he-won-the-title question.....so...i am not going to ruin my eyesight by checking through records of fighters. i shall make one more guess.....featherweight champ chalky wright. if this isn't it, then i quit in my corner and concede defeat and ask.... who is it????? :(

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 15 Aug 2005, 05:38

The answer is...Freddie (Red) Cochrane who had an approximate record of 63-30-8 when he defeated Armstrong to win the welterweight title. How he could beat Zivic just shows how up-and-down Zivic was as a fighter.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 15 Aug 2005, 19:48

Or just how competitive the era was........Good question even if it was too damn hard!

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 15 Aug 2005, 20:19

BoxBuzz,
It's not like Jaclem's question on Floyd Patterson was easy, so I came up with a question on a similar level.

OK, here's an easier one:

Name the fight that fits the following description:
1) Lightweight championship fight
2) Referee Jack Welsh
3) This fight featured both fighters simultaneously knocking each other down at the same time; the referee counted one out before the other could stand back up!

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 16 Aug 2005, 00:46

....and the crowd all joined in and sang river stay way from my door....dna....if you stump them with this one take out an ad and consider yourself a quiz master.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 16 Aug 2005, 02:30

i havent researched it yet but was it benny leanard vs. rocky kansas?

wsbuf · Post by **wsbuf** » 16 Aug 2005, 07:42

Rivers v. Wolgast

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 16 Aug 2005, 10:51

You are correct, wsbuf.

Rivers did not got a rematch with Wolgast after this 13th round KO because Wolgast lost his next defense to Willie Ritchie. Ritchie made his first defense against Rivers and knocked him out in 11 rounds. According to many fight historians of the time, Rivers was an excellent fighter who was just a shade under the champs of the time.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 16 Aug 2005, 12:34