caston wrote:All areas have ring tests and theyre different to how they used to be....they mark on all areas of ability now years ago it was yea or nay.....these lot are goons think journeymen cant fight....yeah like warrens a crap promoter and u can only sell 700 tickets on a 10 fight unlicenced bill....effing grow up tool....
jesus mate calm down a bit (see your other posts), no need to get all brave and abusive on the internet. I have no idea who you are but even if you are in the know but why the aggressive attitude,
reggaereggae wrote:Sorry I'm bad at maths - so for say a non TV York Hall type show (like Miranda Carter puts on) with say 8 fights; what is teh total cost?
This is my first post on the British site I usually post on the Australian one. This is a very good topic, It seems selling tickets is a happening thing for a pro boxer over your part of the world, it's a mayor requirement in Australia, some promotors even pay you in tickets, so No tickets sold no money for the fighter. I've fought pro in Australia & I've also promoted together with my brother iver him or I have been the main event on the shows we have done, both of us have fought & been the only people on the bill who haven't got any money for our fights. It's a tough game you have to really love it, it seems the cost of doing a small hall show over there are around about the same as here in oz, but there's one thing you can do here, which I don't think you can do there & that's have a amutears & pros fight on the same card Pro Am cards they call them, without Pro Am cards in Australia there would no small hall shows.
Mark pawsey wrote:This is my first post on the British site I usually post on the Australian one. This is a very good topic, It seems selling tickets is a happening thing for a pro boxer over your part of the world, it's a mayor requirement in Australia, some promotors even pay you in tickets, so No tickets sold no money for the fighter. I've fought pro in Australia & I've also promoted together with my brother iver him or I have been the main event on the shows we have done, both of us have fought & been the only people on the bill who haven't got any money for our fights. It's a tough game you have to really love it, it seems the cost of doing a small hall show over there are around about the same as here in oz, but there's one thing you can do here, which I don't think you can do there & that's have a amutears & pros fight on the same card Pro Am cards they call them, without Pro Am cards in Australia there would no small hall shows.
i think its been recently changed so that you can do a pro am show here now
Small Hall shows get more expensive when u start bringing foreign fighters over, there purses are normally higher and you also have to pay a £50 foreign trainer fee. The board love bleeding promoters dry.
Also television shows at York Hall get charged more than a non-televised show
Gloves etc most promoters will have a stock of, if you ask nicely the Ring guys normally carry a bag of them as well. You pay them in beer for the use of them lol.
All the BBBoC costs for officials are in your wee green handbook.
Slapbang - if you need any figures or help etc drop me an email.
mbudgen wrote:As far as I'm aware York Hall costs around 2k to hire out for a small hall promotion. Tv shows are more.
A standard fighters purse is in the region of 1k to £1200 but then most fighters are on ticket deals, meaning they may take more money home if they sell so many tickets etc. However the BBBoC are trying to stop ticket deals (which is ridiculous)
I don't know how much sanctioning fees are although don't forget the cost of security which is another 2k and then £600 for the ring to be put up.
It quickly adds up and it becomes understandable why promoters cant make a living without TV deals.
Good point. The fighters would be better off Promoting themselves and cut out the Promoters and managers fees.
how is it ridiculous?.. promoters should promote, name me another sport where the sportsman sells his own tickets!!
Gareth wrote:Gloves etc most promoters will have a stock of, if you ask nicely the Ring guys normally carry a bag of them as well. You pay them in beer for the use of them lol.
All the BBBoC costs for officials are in your wee green handbook.
Slapbang - if you need any figures or help etc drop me an email.
Cheers Gareth.
I have this years Green Book (not the Libyan version) because I am applying for a BBBoC seconds licence as well.
I was going to go up to Belfast near the Christmas and speak to Alio and get some of his lads on the show as well. If McCloskey doesnt announce a show for February by New Years Eve then I am going to launch.
Mark pawsey wrote:This is my first post on the British site I usually post on the Australian one. This is a very good topic, It seems selling tickets is a happening thing for a pro boxer over your part of the world, it's a mayor requirement in Australia, some promotors even pay you in tickets, so No tickets sold no money for the fighter. I've fought pro in Australia & I've also promoted together with my brother iver him or I have been the main event on the shows we have done, both of us have fought & been the only people on the bill who haven't got any money for our fights. It's a tough game you have to really love it, it seems the cost of doing a small hall show over there are around about the same as here in oz, but there's one thing you can do here, which I don't think you can do there & that's have a amutears & pros fight on the same card Pro Am cards they call them, without Pro Am cards in Australia there would no small hall shows.
i think its been recently changed so that you can do a pro am show here now
I did pro ams shows over four years ago in birmingham
mbudgen wrote:As far as I'm aware York Hall costs around 2k to hire out for a small hall promotion. Tv shows are more.
A standard fighters purse is in the region of 1k to £1200 but then most fighters are on ticket deals, meaning they may take more money home if they sell so many tickets etc. However the BBBoC are trying to stop ticket deals (which is ridiculous)
I don't know how much sanctioning fees are although don't forget the cost of security which is another 2k and then £600 for the ring to be put up.
It quickly adds up and it becomes understandable why promoters cant make a living without TV deals.
how is it ridiculous?.. promoters should promote, name me another sport where the sportsman sells his own tickets!!
