Butterbean is better than what everybody says he is

Toughman · Post by **Toughman** » 15 Nov 2002, 14:32

I know u think i am crazy, but The Bean isnt as bad as you all think. He can beat some of them guys up there in the top 100; as Bean is ranked 211. Look at ranked contender Tony Tubbs at rank 68. He aint got power or the great skill but he was a former champion...c'mon Butterbean could deck this guy. If Tyson could beat Tubbs in the 1980's in two rounds then Butterbean should be able to at least get him in five or seven.

He aint in the level of guys like David Defiagbon or Atilla Levin but I know he could beat guys like Everett Big Foot Martin, Tubbs, Dokes (if he wasnt in prison) and maybe even Don Steele. That I know for certain because these guys are ranked higher than the Bean but if push comes to shove you know, as well as I do the Bean could knock em out.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 15 Nov 2002, 15:06

are you retarded? are YOU butterbean? your obviously a tough man fan by your name, which has clouded your judgement.

bean was KOd by MITCH ROSE, a completely crap journeyman with no punch. he was beaten again recently so they voided the result. your fat boy couldnt even "deck" 45 yr old abdul muhaymin.

even don steele would expose bean, and steeles a fraud. your man is a complete fraud, almost ALL of his opponents(who aren't even real pros) are paid to take dives.

as for a fight with tony tubbs ... you got no knowledge of boxing whatsoever and i am sure everybody on this board will agree 100% with me.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 15 Nov 2002, 15:10

damn i forgot, he lost his last TWO fights.

he also lost EVERY rd v a decrepit ancient 52 yr old larry holmes. and was unable to deck him.

this guy must be joking right?

cybox · Post by **cybox** » 15 Nov 2002, 16:12

someone let this guy escape from the looney bin

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 16 Nov 2002, 03:26

I paticularly liked the line "maybe even Steele" Like Steele is a better fighter than Dokes, Tubbs and Martin. Toughman, Butterbean is a fat joke who would not even be rated as "high" as 211 if half his opponents had'nt been tank jobs.

We get these Butterbean supporters here sometimes and their grasp on reality and knowledge of boxing is always grossly lacking.

Also, why is this in the boxers of the past forum? Should'nt it be in the boxers who never were forum?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 16 Nov 2002, 08:49

damn i was enraged by his throwing the names of tubbs and dokes around that i missed bigfoot! bigfoot martin mixed in with the absolute elite, gave em all a tough fight and even beat a couple.

butterbeans credentials.... oh dear. he couldnt beat abdul muhaymin who is a lesser and older version of bigfoot. he couldnt beat mitch rose. these are the only 2 recognizable journeymen on beans record and he couldnt KO either of them. and mitch rose is CRAP!!!!!

damn, why am i wasting my time responding to this moron?

bigfoot KO2 butterbean (2nd rd only because bigfoots about 40 now)

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:06

great wisdom from former contributors.....

Les Darcy · Post by **Les Darcy** » 22 Apr 2006, 00:02

i wonder where the bean sits on brocktonblockbusters heavyweight list

barry · Post by **barry** » 22 Apr 2006, 06:51

Butterbean has been a disgrace to professional boxing! He has absolutely no skill whatsoever and truth be told...I would bet that 75% to 85% of his bouts were rigged! Butterbean falls into the category of fighters along with Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Mickey Rourke and any others that made a mockery of the sport!

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 22 Apr 2006, 09:08

Anyone who makes a career out of 4 round fights is a joke.

JAHamilton77 · Post by **JAHamilton77** » 22 Apr 2006, 10:42

Butterbean is a side show freak, I doubt he could beat the current version of Tubbs, especially if they stretched the fight past 4 rds.....

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 22 Apr 2006, 11:47

Mattyp151 wrote:Anyone who makes a career out of 4 round fights is a joke.

If his career is considered a joke, then he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

They guy may not be a boxer to the true meaning of the word, but he has made a pretty good living doing what he has done. Bean (or Eric) has made a lot more money that I have as a teacher.

JAHamilton77 · Post by **JAHamilton77** » 22 Apr 2006, 12:00

You know with the fact that his name was so recognizable in the boxing community I always found it curious that no one coming up ever tried to make a name for themselves by beating him...... What was the reason?

1. Were people ateast early on afraid that this guy could absorb so much and he may catch them with a lucky shot and their boxing career would be set back not so much because he was better but simply because he absorbed until this lucky shot emerged?
2. Maybe, he was such a gimmick fighter that other boxers were afraid that just having their name connected to his in anyway would pigeonhole them as a gimmick fighter, and people wouldnt take them seriously?
3. Was it that Butterbean knew his limitations and didnt want to risk blowing his little sideshow act by getting upstaged by a competent above average fighter?

I tend to think its #2..... #3 is also a possibilty..... any thoughts or other suggestions?

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 22 Apr 2006, 12:32

zojo, wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:Anyone who makes a career out of 4 round fights is a joke.
If his career is considered a joke, then he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

They guy may not be a boxer to the true meaning of the word, but he has made a pretty good living doing what he has done. Bean (or Eric) has made a lot more money that I have as a teacher.

A lot athletes are jokes who make money, it says a lot about fan bases. Would I ever pay 20-25 bucks to see Butterbean specifically? Hell no. I enjoy a boxing match more than a slugfest between two guys who just fire away with no technique, and hope to hit something. Yes, Butterbean carries a big punch, but at 340+ pounds, he better.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 22 Apr 2006, 14:02

JAHamilton77 wrote:You know with the fact that his name was so recognizable in the boxing community I always found it curious that no one coming up ever tried to make a name for themselves by beating him...... What was the reason?

1. Were people ateast early on afraid that this guy could absorb so much and he may catch them with a lucky shot and their boxing career would be set back not so much because he was better but simply because he absorbed until this lucky shot emerged?
2. Maybe, he was such a gimmick fighter that other boxers were afraid that just having their name connected to his in anyway would pigeonhole them as a gimmick fighter, and people wouldnt take them seriously?
3. Was it that Butterbean knew his limitations and didnt want to risk blowing his little sideshow act by getting upstaged by a competent above average fighter?

I tend to think its #2..... #3 is also a possibilty..... any thoughts or other suggestions?

I think number two is pretty insightful. Just picture in your mind what it would look like for a respectable contender to step in the ring with him and all of the prefight hype leading up to the bout. Three is possible also, but then again he might be willing to let the sideshow fall by the wayside if it meant getting knocked out by a contender for a big payday. Number one is probably the least likely because their have always been a fair number of journymen fighters who could absorb punishment while still being able to land that one lucky shot who were able to get fights with most contenders.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 23 Apr 2006, 23:29

Also, why is this in the boxers of the past forum? Should'nt it be in the boxers who never were forum?

Now that is funny.

And I agree 100% with what barry posted.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 23 Apr 2006, 23:37

Butterbean lost over here about 6months back, He was supposed to fight big Bob Mirovic and pulled out of that fight so they gave him a journey man with a record of 3-5 and Butter bean didn't land more than 5 punches the entire fight and he lost . Absolutley Pathetic.

enrique · Post by **enrique** » 24 Apr 2006, 11:16

The bean could not beat Sonny Liston right now.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 24 Apr 2006, 16:17

Decagon wrote:People in the business knew that most of Butterbean's fights were fixed.

Now why the hell would you need to fix a fight vs a guy who is 17-21? Esch just feasted on low level competition, nothing more.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 24 Apr 2006, 16:58

Careful what you say about the Bean, he's the biggest thing in boxing and his fans will hunt you down and buy you donuts to buy your allegiance.

Hmm who weighs more? The Beast or the Bean?

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 24 Apr 2006, 16:59

BoxBuzz wrote:Careful what you say about the Bean, he's the biggest thing in boxing and his fans will hunt you down and buy you donuts to buy your allegiance.

Hmm who weighs more? The Beast or the Bean?

The bean...he pushed 400 at times.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 24 Apr 2006, 17:01

Decagon wrote:If you fix the bout, Butterbean doesn't have to train. And heck, the Bean lost to a few guys who were 17-21.

What did Butterbean have to train for anyway, he was fighting terrible competition for 4 rounds where as soon as he landed a big punch, the fight was over. 18 out of 74 times he's gone the distance to win, obviously he doesn't need to train for a long fight because usally it didn't make it there.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 24 Apr 2006, 17:07

Mattyp151 wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Careful what you say about the Bean, he's the biggest thing in boxing and his fans will hunt you down and buy you donuts to buy your allegiance.

Hmm who weighs more? The Beast or the Bean?
The bean...he pushed 400 at times.

Neither of em are any stranger to the knife and fork.